Trump is not happy with Ukraine's success against Russian millitary.

[meaner gene]

Has nothing to do with actually saying you will accept territorial losses in the final peace treaty.

Show me where Ukraine has said they will accept territory loss in the final settlement.

And not "giving back" the slivers of Kursk Oblast they might still hold.

Unconditional cease fire means the fighting stop, the dying stops, the casualties stop.

Then they hash out the details for a peace treaty afterwards.

 

[Oddball]

The Russian bases were BOMBER bases and the bombers have been parked in the same places for years. Militaries fall into habit patterns. The USAF is no better. Add in the fact that the drones were controlled and the operators could do their own target selection.

No, they weren't parked out in the open like that for years....They were parked out in the open for satellite verification for the US/Russia nuke treaty.

Where they were specifically parked could only have been ascertained by real time reporting from CIA and/or MI6.

 

[martybegan]

Trump wants to claim he made peace. He gives zero shits about the people of Ukraine being free or safe.

And by just supporting sending weapons to them ad nauseum you support more dead Ukrainians without an actual chance for victory.

Sanction won't work against a country as self sufficient in agriculture, tech, and natural resources as Russia is.

 

[martybegan]

Unconditional cease fire means the fighting stop, the dying stops, the casualties stop.

Then they hash out the details for a peace treaty afterwards.

That doesn't respond to my point that Ukraine has never said they are willing to give up pre 2014 Ukrainian territory as part of peace deal.

 

[meaner gene]

Much of those minerals are in the territories that Russia took, and is unlikely to return.

That "agreement" was a psyop, and saps like you feel for it.

Russia already took half of Ukraines rare earths.
Ukraine signed a deal to give away half of what they had left,.

 

[citygator]

We have no obligation to either party nor strategic interests in the outcome of the war.

Wrong

 

[AZrailwhale]

What is your source for this information?

Public domain sites like Global Firepower and World Directory of Modern Military Aircraft. They check correctly against US aircraft, so I believe their numbers. Most Soviet bombers were built in what are now independent countries unfriendly to Russia. Most Soviet jet engines were built in Ukraine, Ilyusion is in Kazbekistan, another builder is in Georgia. Putin tried to lump all the pieces of the aircraft companies left in Russia in the United Aircraft Company, but it doesn't seem able to even produce old designs let alone new ones.

 

[citygator]

And by just supporting sending weapons to them ad nauseum you support more dead Ukrainians without an actual chance for victory.

Sanction won't work against a country as self sufficient in agriculture, tech, and natural resources as Russia is.

Fight or give up are the only options. When would you give up Florida to Russia if they invaded? After a year? Two years? Three? Or never?

 

[meaner gene]

And by just supporting sending weapons to them ad nauseum you support more dead Ukrainians without an actual chance for victory.

Actually we send weapons to Ukraine in order for their not to be a chance for defeat.

 

[jknowgood]

Because he can and will.


At this point in time it's pretty obvious Z has no willingness to end the war. Trump knows that.

You don't take out a bunch of bombers deep into Russia the day before you're having 'peace' talks.

Those bombers were parked neatly outside in a row due to treaty compliance making their nuclear delivery systems verifiable by satellite and not hidden in a hangar.

Putin is about to escalate big time. Say goodbye to Kiev.

Yes, Ukraine messed up. Putin has no choice but to make them pay, big time.

 

[meaner gene]

No, they weren't parked out in the open like that for years....They were parked out in the open for satellite verification for the US/Russia nuke treaty.

Where they were specifically parked could only have been ascertained by real time reporting from CIA and/or MI6.

Or any of the thousands of satellites taking images of the world every day.

 

[gipper]

If Putin wanted peace, he could have it in five minutes. All he would have to do is recognize the territorial integrity of Ukraine as he signed a treaty to do and pull his troops back inside the Russian borders as of 2014. Putin wants to rebuild the old Russian Empire and will continue to try until either he succeeds or dies.

You don’t know anything. Several peace agreements were in the works, with Putin onboard. Then Biden trashed them.

Get informed.

 

[martybegan]

Fight or give up are the only options. When would you give up Florida to Russia if they invaded? After a year? Two years? Three? Or never?

Ask the Germans and the Japanese in 1945.

Winners never quit, and quitters never win, but those who never win and never quit are idiots.

 

[meaner gene]

Yes, Ukraine messed up. Putin has no choice but to make them pay, big time.

Russia is already committing the war crime of deliberately attacking civilian targets.

What's Putin's "pay back" ? Attacking more civilians?

 

[citygator]

Because he can and will.


At this point in time it's pretty obvious Z has no willingness to end the war. Trump knows that.

You don't take out a bunch of bombers deep into Russia the day before you're having 'peace' talks.

Those bombers were parked neatly outside in a row due to treaty compliance making their nuclear delivery systems verifiable by satellite and not hidden in a hangar.

Putin is about to escalate big time. Say goodbye to Kiev.

If you were Ukrainian when would surrender like a *****?

 

[martybegan]

Actually we send weapons to Ukraine in order for their not to be a chance for defeat.

That's not winning. That's stalemate and the longer it goes the less of a chance Ukraine comes out of it as a sovereign nation.

 

[Scoutster]

Yes, Ukraine messed up. Putin has no choice but to make them pay, big time.

 

[jknowgood]

Russia is already committing the war crime of deliberately attacking civilian targets.

What's Putin's "pay back" ? Attacking more civilians?

Leveling Kiev, we should stay out of it. Or we are going to be fighting Russia. I don't know why we got involved in the first place.

 

[meaner gene]

Winners never quit, and quitters never win, but those who never win and never quit are idiots.

America - Vietnam
America - Iraq
America - Afghanistan

 

[martybegan]

America - Vietnam
America - Iraq
America - Afghanistan

Those weren't border fights for us.