Trump is Mis-managing Trade war like Bush mis-managed the war in Iraq

[The Banker]

We lost about 150,000 in Wilson's war, about 250,000 in FDR's war (an entire Army lost within 4 months), about 35-50,000 depending on statistics in Truman's grossly mismanaged 3 year fiasco in Korea and about 50,000 in LBJ's fraudulent war in Vietnam where he set the rules so we could win every battle and still lose the freaking war. Tell me again about Iraq?

Wait are you trying to claim that the Iraq war wasn't a total epic disaster? That doesn't make sense.

Why do you consider it a disaster? Actual combat only lasted a few weeks. In Desert Storm, it only lasted 100 hours.

It was the peace that we did not win.

I consider the peace apart of the entire war. Iraq erupting into total chaos is not a good look, and not a sucess for the US.

 

[The Banker]

The war in Iraq. What a GOP Bush failure. These morons couldn't even win a war against a 2nd world country, as if that's so hard to do.

Right now Trump is doing the same thing with the trade war. I am somewhat supportive of the trade war, as we need to take a stand. But just like the war in Iraq there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and these manufacturers explain what Trump is doing wrong and what he needs to do right (But Trump is too emotional and stupid to do it right).

'It's not a free market': These manufacturers say tariffs help level the playing field with China

Wilson sources some components from China that are subject to Trump’s tariffs. That means the company is paying a tax on those components, while the competition in China is not.

He supports slapping tariffs on Chinese-made drones so competitors in China do not have an unfair advantage. Impossible Aerospace pays tariffs on components it sources from China, such as lithium-ion batteries and AC motors. Gore says tariffs on Chinese-made drones should be higher than what he pays on the components.

A policy like this would help support American-made technology, he says, and create an incentive to keep manufacturing in the U.S., which would ultimately protect American intellectual property.


Put the tariffs on the proper goods (the competition). Don't put the tariffs on the components these manufacturers need to make the goods. Trump's blanket tariff policy is stupid. They need to be more strategic and more targeted protecting US companies, and hurting Chinese competition.

OK time for you all to make excuses for Trump because you can never criticize Mein Fuhrer and you can never hold GOP politicians accountable for any failures/mistakes. Meanwhile we have to watch trump fuck up, just like with Bush.

A bullshit post by an ignoramus. NEXT!

Yup, I guess you just have to ignore the facts, and Ignore the US manufacturers that said they support the trade war, but we need to be much more strategic with the tariffs, increasing them on certain goods, and lowering them on others. This is the problem, when US manufacturers (who support a trade war)come out and point out mistakes Trump is making you ignore them and keep on sucking trump dick. Just like with the war in iraq I'm sure according to you Bush did nothing wrong in that war and it's all somebody else's fault. Pretty pathetic. Why don't you learn how to be accountable in life. I guess you have really low standards for success and that might be why you have failed so much in life.

 

[The Banker]

The war in Iraq. What a GOP Bush failure. These morons couldn't even win a war against a 2nd world country, as if that's so hard to do.

Right now Trump is doing the same thing with the trade war. I am somewhat supportive of the trade war, as we need to take a stand. But just like the war in Iraq there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and these manufacturers explain what Trump is doing wrong and what he needs to do right (But Trump is too emotional and stupid to do it right).

'It's not a free market': These manufacturers say tariffs help level the playing field with China

Wilson sources some components from China that are subject to Trump’s tariffs. That means the company is paying a tax on those components, while the competition in China is not.

He supports slapping tariffs on Chinese-made drones so competitors in China do not have an unfair advantage. Impossible Aerospace pays tariffs on components it sources from China, such as lithium-ion batteries and AC motors. Gore says tariffs on Chinese-made drones should be higher than what he pays on the components.

A policy like this would help support American-made technology, he says, and create an incentive to keep manufacturing in the U.S., which would ultimately protect American intellectual property.


Put the tariffs on the proper goods (the competition). Don't put the tariffs on the components these manufacturers need to make the goods. Trump's blanket tariff policy is stupid. They need to be more strategic and more targeted protecting US companies, and hurting Chinese competition.

OK time for you all to make excuses for Trump because you can never criticize Mein Fuhrer and you can never hold GOP politicians accountable for any failures/mistakes. Meanwhile we have to watch trump fuck up, just like with Bush.

So this manufacture wants tariffs on his Chinese competitors but is whining about paying a tariff on the components he purchase from China...pretty sure TRUMP made it clear manufactures need to make their parts in America or find a supplier outside of China or they can pay the increasing tariffs.

If liberals were serious about climate change they would fully back TRUMP's trade war with China. They would fully support manufactures making as much as they can in the US.

Ok but the problem is that finding a new supplier means additional costs, which means they must increase the price on their goods even more, which means that the Chinese products are an even better deal and will sell even more. Your suggestion does nothing to help the US, it actually hurts us. Maybe you should try listening to the US companies and manufacturers who probably know more about this than you.

 

[The Banker]

Get back to us when you can actually make a point or say something meaningful.

When our beloved Pres.Trump says something and Fox News reports it. All loyal and patriotic Americans will hang on his every word and obey him.

It's just common sense. ...

Hmmm so far there have been about 20 conservatives that have posted decent responses to the OP. You still haven't posted anything of merit. We're waiting... I guess this is your way of tapping out as you clearly don't have the intelligence to debate the issues. Your surrender has been noted.

 

[toomuchtime_]

We lost about 150,000 in Wilson's war, about 250,000 in FDR's war (an entire Army lost within 4 months), about 35-50,000 depending on statistics in Truman's grossly mismanaged 3 year fiasco in Korea and about 50,000 in LBJ's fraudulent war in Vietnam where he set the rules so we could win every battle and still lose the freaking war. Tell me again about Iraq?

Wait are you trying to claim that the Iraq war wasn't a total epic disaster? That doesn't make sense.

U.S. forces went further and faster and took more real estate with less casualties than any other conflict of it's kind in U.S. history. The Iraqi people hanged the tyrant. Where was the epic disaster?

What about Desert Storm? That was a war we actually won.

If you think that the war in Iraq was not a failure then I don't know what to tell you. I guess I just have higher standards for success than you. It seems you have really low standards in life, maybe that is why you haven't amounted to much??

You clearly have no standards, just political bias. By the time Bush left office, Iraq was a functioning democracy, al Qaeda was just a memory and Iran had only minimal influence in Iraq, but after Obama withdrew US forces and withdrew the funding for the Iraqis fighting against al Qaeda, Iraq became a failed state, just as the Pentagon had told Obama it would.

Before you claim Obama had no choice because of the agreement Bush had signed, that's a lie. The agreement allowed the PM to request the forces remain if he thought conditions too perilous for them to leave an Maliki asked Obama to leave them, but Obama ignored the agreement and said he would only stay if the Parliament asked him to stay, knowing that that wouldn't happen. And before you tell the lie about how US soldiers would be put in danger if they stayed because they could be tried by the Iraqi government, the agreement merely continued the same conditions that had already been in effect.

While it may be legitimate to complain the war cost us too much, the fact is that by the time Obama took office, Iraq was a success, and Obama withdrew only because he thought it would help him in his reelection bid. The Pentagon had told him what would happen if he withdrew, so Obama understood thousands of people would die, hundreds of thousands as it turned out, that millions would become homeless refugees, that al Qaeda which had been reduced to a mer nuisance would come back into power and that he was handing Iraq over to Iran. Of course, he couldn't have known in advance that he was also creating ISIS and sending refugees flooding into Europe and that this would cause Brexit and probably some other nations leaving the EU.

That single act, withdrawing from Iraq for his own political motives, is the single most atrocious act committed by any world leader so far in this century.

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump is Mis-managing Trade war like Bush mis-managed the war in Iraq

How would you do it differently? You got nothing right, shocker now shut the hell up.

AHAHA!!! What an ignorant post.

Maybe you should try and read the post I made where I clearly explain what needs to be done and show where US manufacturers say what needs to be done. According to these US manufacturers they all say that we need a trade war, we just need to manage it better and could manage it better if Trump raised tariffs on certain goods and lowered them on others. We need to be strategic with the tariffs. Trump is mismanaging this trade war just like Bush mismanaged the war in Iraq, and how'd that turn out??

Look dummy targeted tariffs have been tried and failed for decades. Pull your head out of your ass.

 

[theHawk]

Maybe they should stop using Chinese made components.

Just wondering, did you even read the article?

If so then explain to us how these US manufacturers can compete against Chinese manufacturers that can significantly undercut his price? Using US made components would further add to his costs, that is not going to help anything.

I’ve said many times that tariffs on China need to be raised. Yes, I agree that tariffs in this case need to be raised, but this company is using Chinese made parts, so I have little sympathy for them.

You seem to be missing the point of the article.

Tariffs on the chinese manufactured products need to be raised, tariffs on the components need to be lowered.
If this manufacturer uses US components then his costs go up even more and he is at a further disadvantage... resulting in even less sales for his business.

Wrong. Tariffs on the components need to go up. We should be manufacturing everything and not relying on communists and slave made goods.

So you think we should just cut ourselves off from the rest of the world, make our own goods and not export much of anything?

We should just concede the entire world market to other companies?? That's not good policy, and you can't have it both ways. We need a policy that gives our companies the best chance of competing at home and internationally.

You do realize that buying foreign made components lowers the costs of our goods to purchase?

Would you rather pay $80 for an AC unit or $120? $40k for a car or $45k? In the end international supply chain help keep our goods cheaper and more competitive on the world stage.

Your plan for isolationism would make our goods more expensive for us to purchase and make our goods uncompetitive on the world stage.

No you idiot, can’t you read?

We should cut ourselves off from COMMUNIST CHINA. Free trade with civilized and free nations is welcomed.

 

[Hellokitty]

The war in Iraq. What a GOP Bush failure. These morons couldn't even win a war against a 2nd world country, as if that's so hard to do.

Right now Trump is doing the same thing with the trade war. I am somewhat supportive of the trade war, as we need to take a stand. But just like the war in Iraq there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and these manufacturers explain what Trump is doing wrong and what he needs to do right (But Trump is too emotional and stupid to do it right).

'It's not a free market': These manufacturers say tariffs help level the playing field with China

Wilson sources some components from China that are subject to Trump’s tariffs. That means the company is paying a tax on those components, while the competition in China is not.

He supports slapping tariffs on Chinese-made drones so competitors in China do not have an unfair advantage. Impossible Aerospace pays tariffs on components it sources from China, such as lithium-ion batteries and AC motors. Gore says tariffs on Chinese-made drones should be higher than what he pays on the components.

A policy like this would help support American-made technology, he says, and create an incentive to keep manufacturing in the U.S., which would ultimately protect American intellectual property.


Put the tariffs on the proper goods (the competition). Don't put the tariffs on the components these manufacturers need to make the goods. Trump's blanket tariff policy is stupid. They need to be more strategic and more targeted protecting US companies, and hurting Chinese competition.

OK time for you all to make excuses for Trump because you can never criticize Mein Fuhrer and you can never hold GOP politicians accountable for any failures/mistakes. Meanwhile we have to watch trump fuck up, just like with Bush.

So this manufacture wants tariffs on his Chinese competitors but is whining about paying a tariff on the components he purchase from China...pretty sure TRUMP made it clear manufactures need to make their parts in America or find a supplier outside of China or they can pay the increasing tariffs.

If liberals were serious about climate change they would fully back TRUMP's trade war with China. They would fully support manufactures making as much as they can in the US.

Ok but the problem is that finding a new supplier means additional costs, which means they must increase the price on their goods even more, which means that the Chinese products are an even better deal and will sell even more. Your suggestion does nothing to help the US, it actually hurts us. Maybe you should try listening to the US companies and manufacturers who probably know more about this than you.

Why would finding a new supplier mean additional costs? Why doesn't this manufacture also view the tariffs on keyboard componates as a way to level out the playing field?

 

[Sunni Man]

You still haven't posted anything of merit.

We elected Trump to be our nation's ruler.

Thus it is our duty as American citizens to obey his commands. ...

 

[The Banker]

We lost about 150,000 in Wilson's war, about 250,000 in FDR's war (an entire Army lost within 4 months), about 35-50,000 depending on statistics in Truman's grossly mismanaged 3 year fiasco in Korea and about 50,000 in LBJ's fraudulent war in Vietnam where he set the rules so we could win every battle and still lose the freaking war. Tell me again about Iraq?

Wait are you trying to claim that the Iraq war wasn't a total epic disaster? That doesn't make sense.

U.S. forces went further and faster and took more real estate with less casualties than any other conflict of it's kind in U.S. history. The Iraqi people hanged the tyrant. Where was the epic disaster?

What about Desert Storm? That was a war we actually won.

If you think that the war in Iraq was not a failure then I don't know what to tell you. I guess I just have higher standards for success than you. It seems you have really low standards in life, maybe that is why you haven't amounted to much??

You clearly have no standards, just political bias. By the time Bush left office, Iraq was a functioning democracy, al Qaeda was just a memory and Iran had only minimal influence in Iraq, but after Obama withdrew US forces and withdrew the funding for the Iraqis fighting against al Qaeda, Iraq became a failed state, just as the Pentagon had told Obama it would.

Before you claim Obama had no choice because of the agreement Bush had signed, that's a lie. The agreement allowed the PM to request the forces remain if he thought conditions too perilous for them to leave an Maliki asked Obama to leave them, but Obama ignored the agreement and said he would only stay if the Parliament asked him to stay, knowing that that wouldn't happen. And before you tell the lie about how US soldiers would be put in danger if they stayed because they could be tried by the Iraqi government, the agreement merely continued the same conditions that had already been in effect.

While it may be legitimate to complain the war cost us too much, the fact is that by the time Obama took office, Iraq was a success, and Obama withdrew only because he thought it would help him in his reelection bid. The Pentagon had told him what would happen if he withdrew, so Obama understood thousands of people would die, hundreds of thousands as it turned out, that millions would become homeless refugees, that al Qaeda which had been reduced to a mer nuisance would come back into power and that he was handing Iraq over to Iran. Of course, he couldn't have known in advance that he was also creating ISIS and sending refugees flooding into Europe and that this would cause Brexit and probably some other nations leaving the EU.

That single act, withdrawing from Iraq for his own political motives, is the single most atrocious act committed by any world leader so far in this century.

AHAHAH!!!!
Wow, so it's all another guys fault... pathetic. You can't take responsibility for anything. Everything is always somebody else's fault. Sad...

This is why you have been such a failure in life, you blame all your problems on everybody ese and can't hold yourself accountable, it's always somebody else's fault, never yours... Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

Iraq was a complete and total chaotic disaster in 2004. Maybe you weren't alive back then to know what was going on?
Bush had no plan to keep the peace. No plan to set up a working government. No plan to keep other terrorist groups out of Iraq. No plan to even keep simple government provided services open like power generation, trash pickup, schools, etc. If you think Iraq is a success then you must really be struggling in life, as you have no standards in life.

Even trump said Bush fucked Iraq up and called it:
"The worst single mistake ever made in the history of our country: going into the Middle East, by President Bush,”

You look pathetic...

 

[Meathead]

The war in Iraq. What a GOP Bush failure. These morons couldn't even win a war against a 2nd world country, as if that's so hard to do.

Right now Trump is doing the same thing with the trade war. I am somewhat supportive of the trade war, as we need to take a stand. But just like the war in Iraq there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and these manufacturers explain what Trump is doing wrong and what he needs to do right (But Trump is too emotional and stupid to do it right).

'It's not a free market': These manufacturers say tariffs help level the playing field with China

Wilson sources some components from China that are subject to Trump’s tariffs. That means the company is paying a tax on those components, while the competition in China is not.

He supports slapping tariffs on Chinese-made drones so competitors in China do not have an unfair advantage. Impossible Aerospace pays tariffs on components it sources from China, such as lithium-ion batteries and AC motors. Gore says tariffs on Chinese-made drones should be higher than what he pays on the components.

A policy like this would help support American-made technology, he says, and create an incentive to keep manufacturing in the U.S., which would ultimately protect American intellectual property.


Put the tariffs on the proper goods (the competition). Don't put the tariffs on the components these manufacturers need to make the goods. Trump's blanket tariff policy is stupid. They need to be more strategic and more targeted protecting US companies, and hurting Chinese competition.

OK time for you all to make excuses for Trump because you can never criticize Mein Fuhrer and you can never hold GOP politicians accountable for any failures/mistakes. Meanwhile we have to watch trump fuck up, just like with Bush.

Another fucking whiner

 

[The Banker]

Trump is Mis-managing Trade war like Bush mis-managed the war in Iraq

How would you do it differently? You got nothing right, shocker now shut the hell up.

AHAHA!!! What an ignorant post.

Maybe you should try and read the post I made where I clearly explain what needs to be done and show where US manufacturers say what needs to be done. According to these US manufacturers they all say that we need a trade war, we just need to manage it better and could manage it better if Trump raised tariffs on certain goods and lowered them on others. We need to be strategic with the tariffs. Trump is mismanaging this trade war just like Bush mismanaged the war in Iraq, and how'd that turn out??

Look dummy targeted tariffs have been tried and failed for decades. Pull your head out of your ass.

No they haven't what real tariffs has the US placed on China besides a few minor steel tariffs? Provide links...

US manufacturers are giving clear examples of how to use tariffs strategically, Raise them on some items, lower them on others. Read the article I provided...

We could have a tariff policy that hurts China more and hurts US companies less, but you and Trump don't seem to understand that. The same way I'm sure you couldn't understand that Bush mismanaged the war in Iraq, how'd that turnout for you?

 

[The Banker]

Just wondering, did you even read the article?

If so then explain to us how these US manufacturers can compete against Chinese manufacturers that can significantly undercut his price? Using US made components would further add to his costs, that is not going to help anything.

I’ve said many times that tariffs on China need to be raised. Yes, I agree that tariffs in this case need to be raised, but this company is using Chinese made parts, so I have little sympathy for them.

You seem to be missing the point of the article.

Tariffs on the chinese manufactured products need to be raised, tariffs on the components need to be lowered.
If this manufacturer uses US components then his costs go up even more and he is at a further disadvantage... resulting in even less sales for his business.

Wrong. Tariffs on the components need to go up. We should be manufacturing everything and not relying on communists and slave made goods.

So you think we should just cut ourselves off from the rest of the world, make our own goods and not export much of anything?

We should just concede the entire world market to other companies?? That's not good policy, and you can't have it both ways. We need a policy that gives our companies the best chance of competing at home and internationally.

You do realize that buying foreign made components lowers the costs of our goods to purchase?

Would you rather pay $80 for an AC unit or $120? $40k for a car or $45k? In the end international supply chain help keep our goods cheaper and more competitive on the world stage.

Your plan for isolationism would make our goods more expensive for us to purchase and make our goods uncompetitive on the world stage.

No you idiot, can’t you read?

We should cut ourselves off from COMMUNIST CHINA. Free trade with civilized and free nations is welcomed.

OK then why would any foreign company by our goods when they can just buy similar goods made by another country that cost way less? Those US manufacturers don't have any other options than to buy those components from China, if there were other viable options don't you think they would use them? If they buy from US suppliers then they would cost substantially more, making our goods cost much more, making them much less competitive in international markets. You don't seem to comprehend this simple fact.

All that needs to be done is grow a brain, listen to US manufacturers, and institute a tariff policy that hurts the chinese competition while making our US goods more competitive at home and abroad. The problem is you can't criticize mein fuhrer at all and are too biased to understand these simple facts.

 

[The Banker]

The war in Iraq. What a GOP Bush failure. These morons couldn't even win a war against a 2nd world country, as if that's so hard to do.

Right now Trump is doing the same thing with the trade war. I am somewhat supportive of the trade war, as we need to take a stand. But just like the war in Iraq there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and these manufacturers explain what Trump is doing wrong and what he needs to do right (But Trump is too emotional and stupid to do it right).

'It's not a free market': These manufacturers say tariffs help level the playing field with China

Wilson sources some components from China that are subject to Trump’s tariffs. That means the company is paying a tax on those components, while the competition in China is not.

He supports slapping tariffs on Chinese-made drones so competitors in China do not have an unfair advantage. Impossible Aerospace pays tariffs on components it sources from China, such as lithium-ion batteries and AC motors. Gore says tariffs on Chinese-made drones should be higher than what he pays on the components.

A policy like this would help support American-made technology, he says, and create an incentive to keep manufacturing in the U.S., which would ultimately protect American intellectual property.


Put the tariffs on the proper goods (the competition). Don't put the tariffs on the components these manufacturers need to make the goods. Trump's blanket tariff policy is stupid. They need to be more strategic and more targeted protecting US companies, and hurting Chinese competition.

OK time for you all to make excuses for Trump because you can never criticize Mein Fuhrer and you can never hold GOP politicians accountable for any failures/mistakes. Meanwhile we have to watch trump fuck up, just like with Bush.

So this manufacture wants tariffs on his Chinese competitors but is whining about paying a tariff on the components he purchase from China...pretty sure TRUMP made it clear manufactures need to make their parts in America or find a supplier outside of China or they can pay the increasing tariffs.

If liberals were serious about climate change they would fully back TRUMP's trade war with China. They would fully support manufactures making as much as they can in the US.

Ok but the problem is that finding a new supplier means additional costs, which means they must increase the price on their goods even more, which means that the Chinese products are an even better deal and will sell even more. Your suggestion does nothing to help the US, it actually hurts us. Maybe you should try listening to the US companies and manufacturers who probably know more about this than you.

Why would finding a new supplier mean additional costs? Why doesn't this manufacture also view the tariffs on keyboard componates as a way to level out the playing field?

Because US suppliers would still cost more... Don't you think that company would buy components from US companies if it were cost effective? They aren't going to overpay for Chinese components if US companies sold the same thing for less? They stated they support a trade war, but they said the tariffs need to be more strategic. I'm wondering is your political bias so strong that you can't criticize bad policy?

 

[whitehall]

Democrats politicians may have interfered and stopped the U.S. military from completing the mission but the military operation was textbook.

 

[The Banker]

The war in Iraq. What a GOP Bush failure. These morons couldn't even win a war against a 2nd world country, as if that's so hard to do.

Right now Trump is doing the same thing with the trade war. I am somewhat supportive of the trade war, as we need to take a stand. But just like the war in Iraq there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and these manufacturers explain what Trump is doing wrong and what he needs to do right (But Trump is too emotional and stupid to do it right).

'It's not a free market': These manufacturers say tariffs help level the playing field with China

Wilson sources some components from China that are subject to Trump’s tariffs. That means the company is paying a tax on those components, while the competition in China is not.

He supports slapping tariffs on Chinese-made drones so competitors in China do not have an unfair advantage. Impossible Aerospace pays tariffs on components it sources from China, such as lithium-ion batteries and AC motors. Gore says tariffs on Chinese-made drones should be higher than what he pays on the components.

A policy like this would help support American-made technology, he says, and create an incentive to keep manufacturing in the U.S., which would ultimately protect American intellectual property.


Put the tariffs on the proper goods (the competition). Don't put the tariffs on the components these manufacturers need to make the goods. Trump's blanket tariff policy is stupid. They need to be more strategic and more targeted protecting US companies, and hurting Chinese competition.

OK time for you all to make excuses for Trump because you can never criticize Mein Fuhrer and you can never hold GOP politicians accountable for any failures/mistakes. Meanwhile we have to watch trump fuck up, just like with Bush.

Another fucking whiner

Yes I have high standards and expect success from our elected officials. I am against dumb policy by any party. Unlike you who is so politically biased that you can't hold any GOP politicians accountable for their mistakes.

I guess it makes me a whiner because I actually want to win this trade war. If Trump would listen to US manufacturers then we would have smarter and better policy, but instead you are going to follow Trump down the rabbit hole to disaster, just like with Bush and the war in Iraq. Failure is so prominent in the GOP you have come to accept failure, and that is sad...

 

[The Banker]

Democrats politicians may have interfered and stopped the U.S. military from completing the mission but the military operation was textbook.

AHAHAH!!!
yea the war in Iraq was textbook. What a great beacon of success that was. I hope all our wars are like the war in Iraq!!! Wow are you stupid or something?

Even Trump said the war in Iraq was a complete failure by Bush...

"The worst single mistake ever made in the history of our country: going into the Middle East, by President Bush.”
Trump

 

[Meathead]

The war in Iraq. What a GOP Bush failure. These morons couldn't even win a war against a 2nd world country, as if that's so hard to do.

Right now Trump is doing the same thing with the trade war. I am somewhat supportive of the trade war, as we need to take a stand. But just like the war in Iraq there is a right way and a wrong way to do things, and these manufacturers explain what Trump is doing wrong and what he needs to do right (But Trump is too emotional and stupid to do it right).

'It's not a free market': These manufacturers say tariffs help level the playing field with China

Wilson sources some components from China that are subject to Trump’s tariffs. That means the company is paying a tax on those components, while the competition in China is not.

He supports slapping tariffs on Chinese-made drones so competitors in China do not have an unfair advantage. Impossible Aerospace pays tariffs on components it sources from China, such as lithium-ion batteries and AC motors. Gore says tariffs on Chinese-made drones should be higher than what he pays on the components.

A policy like this would help support American-made technology, he says, and create an incentive to keep manufacturing in the U.S., which would ultimately protect American intellectual property.


Put the tariffs on the proper goods (the competition). Don't put the tariffs on the components these manufacturers need to make the goods. Trump's blanket tariff policy is stupid. They need to be more strategic and more targeted protecting US companies, and hurting Chinese competition.

OK time for you all to make excuses for Trump because you can never criticize Mein Fuhrer and you can never hold GOP politicians accountable for any failures/mistakes. Meanwhile we have to watch trump fuck up, just like with Bush.

Another fucking whiner

Yes I have high standards and expect success from our elected officials. I am against dumb policy by any party. Unlike you who is so politically biased that you can't hold any GOP politicians accountable for their mistakes.

I guess it makes me a whiner because I actually want to win this trade war. If Trump would listen to US manufacturers then we would have smarter and better policy, but instead you are going to follow Trump down the rabbit hole to disaster, just like with Bush and the war in Iraq. Failure is so prominent in the GOP you have come to accept failure, and that is sad...

Oh, shut up. You're too annoying for words.

 

[toomuchtime_]

We lost about 150,000 in Wilson's war, about 250,000 in FDR's war (an entire Army lost within 4 months), about 35-50,000 depending on statistics in Truman's grossly mismanaged 3 year fiasco in Korea and about 50,000 in LBJ's fraudulent war in Vietnam where he set the rules so we could win every battle and still lose the freaking war. Tell me again about Iraq?

Wait are you trying to claim that the Iraq war wasn't a total epic disaster? That doesn't make sense.

U.S. forces went further and faster and took more real estate with less casualties than any other conflict of it's kind in U.S. history. The Iraqi people hanged the tyrant. Where was the epic disaster?

What about Desert Storm? That was a war we actually won.

If you think that the war in Iraq was not a failure then I don't know what to tell you. I guess I just have higher standards for success than you. It seems you have really low standards in life, maybe that is why you haven't amounted to much??

You clearly have no standards, just political bias. By the time Bush left office, Iraq was a functioning democracy, al Qaeda was just a memory and Iran had only minimal influence in Iraq, but after Obama withdrew US forces and withdrew the funding for the Iraqis fighting against al Qaeda, Iraq became a failed state, just as the Pentagon had told Obama it would.

Before you claim Obama had no choice because of the agreement Bush had signed, that's a lie. The agreement allowed the PM to request the forces remain if he thought conditions too perilous for them to leave an Maliki asked Obama to leave them, but Obama ignored the agreement and said he would only stay if the Parliament asked him to stay, knowing that that wouldn't happen. And before you tell the lie about how US soldiers would be put in danger if they stayed because they could be tried by the Iraqi government, the agreement merely continued the same conditions that had already been in effect.

While it may be legitimate to complain the war cost us too much, the fact is that by the time Obama took office, Iraq was a success, and Obama withdrew only because he thought it would help him in his reelection bid. The Pentagon had told him what would happen if he withdrew, so Obama understood thousands of people would die, hundreds of thousands as it turned out, that millions would become homeless refugees, that al Qaeda which had been reduced to a mer nuisance would come back into power and that he was handing Iraq over to Iran. Of course, he couldn't have known in advance that he was also creating ISIS and sending refugees flooding into Europe and that this would cause Brexit and probably some other nations leaving the EU.

That single act, withdrawing from Iraq for his own political motives, is the single most atrocious act committed by any world leader so far in this century.

AHAHAH!!!!
Wow, so it's all another guys fault... pathetic. You can't take responsibility for anything. Everything is always somebody else's fault. Sad...

This is why you have been such a failure in life, you blame all your problems on everybody ese and can't hold yourself accountable, it's always somebody else's fault, never yours... Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

Iraq was a complete and total chaotic disaster in 2004. Maybe you weren't alive back then to know what was going on?
Bush had no plan to keep the peace. No plan to set up a working government. No plan to keep other terrorist groups out of Iraq. No plan to even keep simple government provided services open like power generation, trash pickup, schools, etc. If you think Iraq is a success then you must really be struggling in life, as you have no standards in life.

Even trump said Bush fucked Iraq up and called it:
"The worst single mistake ever made in the history of our country: going into the Middle East, by President Bush,”

You look pathetic...

Nothing in your post refutes anything I said. Again, when Obama took over Iraq was a functioning democracy, al Qaeda was all but gone and Iran had only minimal influence in Iraq. After Obama withdrew as a part of his 2012 election campaign, Iraq became mired in civil war, al Qaeda became powerful again and morphed into ISIS and Iran became powerful in Iraq. No other leader in this century has caused as much suffering and death as Obama did when he withdrew from Iraq to enhance his chances for reelection.

 

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That's your response to Trump screwing up????

Just deny that it's happening???

What are you nuts, what a sad fantasy land you live in.

I guess republicans just ignore the facts and pray that they go away, like they do on Foxnews.

In a very real sense, a trade war with China is a trade war with the democrats, who are essentially a party that are agents for Beijing. From Diane Feinstein who has spent her career working for China, bribed with hundreds of millions to sell out America, which she has done each and every time, to Joe Biden and his son Hunter, who also took hundreds of million in Chinese bribes.

The democrat party serves the interests of China, so it's of little surprise that they have become unhinged that Trump would support America over their masters.