Trump is going to get America involved in another Viet Nam like War!

[TruthSeeker112125]

today's Progressive DSM's don't give two shits about that....Look who they're defending here....

I have no problem whatsoever with those Boats being intercepted in American waters, where if they were foolish enough to open fire on American Coastguard/Naval forces,..... To Blow then outa the Water.

The problem here, is that Attacking, & Now Seizing Foreign vessels in International Waters is a Crime.

Ya'll,.... We went to War with England, over their attacking/seizing American Ships in International Waters.& It was a Declared, & Justified War.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Was it to big to blow up?

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U.S. Realizes It Can Seize Boats After All

After months of extrajudicial killings in the waters off Venezuela, the Trump administration opted instead to capture an oil tanker.




Nick Turse
December 10 2025, 4:19 p.m.


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Since the attacks began, experts in the laws of war and members of Congress, from both parties, have said the strikes are illegal extrajudicial killings because the military is not permitted to deliberately target civilians — even suspected criminals — who do not pose an imminent threat of violence.

Related​

Boat Strike Survivors Clung to Wreckage for Some 45 Minutes Before U.S. Military Killed Them​

Trump has pursued an abrasive and interventionist foreign policy in the Western Hemisphere during his second term. “[W]e will assert and enforce a ‘Trump Corollary’ to the Monroe Doctrine,” reads the recently released U.S. National Security Strategy. It harkens back to President Theodore Roosevelt’s turn-of-the-20th-century “Big Stick” corollary to the Monroe Doctrine.


President James Monroe’s 1823 announcement warned the nations of Europe that the United States would not permit the establishment of new colonies in the Americas. Roosevelt’s more muscular decree held that Washington had the right to interfere in the internal affairs of countries across the Americas. In the first quarter of the 20th century, that Roosevelt corollary would be used to justify U.S. occupations of Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Honduras, and Nicaragua.


What’s been called the “Donroe Doctrine” began to take shape with threats to seize the Panama Canal, acquire Greenland, and rename the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America. The Trump administration also claimed the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua had invaded the United States, allowing the government to use the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to fast-track deportation of people it says belong to the gang. The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals eventually blocked the government from using the war-time law. “We conclude that the findings do not support that an invasion or a predatory incursion has occurred,” wrote Judge Leslie Southwick."

U.S. Realizes It Can Seize Boats After All

After months of extrajudicial killings in the waters off Venezuela, the Trump administration opted instead to capture an oil tanker.

theintercept.com

 

[j-mac]

I have no problem whatsoever with those Boats being intercepted in American waters, where if they were foolish enough to open fire on American Coastguard/Naval forces,..... To Blow then outa the Water.

They are designated terrorists, and as such in open waters they can be neutralized...They don't have to be within American waters.

The problem here, is that Attacking, & Now Seizing Foreign vessels in International Waters is a Crime.

Don't think you're going to get far on that....

Ya'll,.... We went to War with England, over their attacking/seizing American Ships in International Waters.& It was a Declared, & Justified War.

So, you're using actions of 250 years ago? Ok...Take it to court.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

They are designated terrorists, and as such in open waters they can be neutralized...They don't have to be within American waters.

Don't think you're going to get far on that....

So, you're using actions of 250 years ago? Ok...Take it to court.

"They are designated terrorists, and as such in open waters they can be neutralized."

That's a Ton of "Trump Following Bullshit", that Has Nothing to do with "Making America Great Again"!

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Mr. Paul, has made a Very Good Point!​

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Ron Paul: Ahoy! Pirate Trump Seizes Venezuelan Oil Tanker – ‘We’ll Keep The Oil!’​

by Ron Paul and Daniel McAdams | Dec 11, 2025 | News | 0 comments




On today’s Ron Paul Liberty Report:

Just one month after US CENTCOM condemned Iran for boarding a commercial vessel in international waters, the Trump Administration boarded and seized a Venezuelan oil tanker bound for Cuba and seized the cargo. Is this another provocation hoping for a Venezuelan response to kick off the war? Also today: Massie introduces bill to get out of NATO.



Reprinted from The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity.

Ron Paul: Ahoy! Pirate Trump Seizes Venezuelan Oil Tanker 'We'll Keep The Oil!' - Antiwar.com Blog

On today’s Ron Paul Liberty Report: Just one month after US CENTCOM condemned Iran for boarding a commercial vessel in international waters, the Trump Administration boarded and seized a Venezuelan oil tanker bound for Cuba and seized the cargo. Is this another provocation hoping for a...

www.antiwar.com

 

[j-mac]

"They are designated terrorists, and as such in open waters they can be neutralized."

That's a Ton of "Trump Following Bullshit", that Has Nothing to do with "Making America Great Again"!

So, you’re on the side of protecting drug runners?

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

First,..... This will escalate, & I Believe that where Trump, in His "Self-Righteousness", believes that he can do anything he wants, will soon see that his actions will be responsible for the senseless deaths of American Personnel, as well as hundreds if not thousands of Venezuelans.​

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Ya'll, Trump will drag America in to another "Viet Nam Style" War, that I Believe will end like the Viet Nam War, or,.... It will lead to World War Three. I Believe that Russia, and China, will not let Trump to continue with what he has done in the recent past.​

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Secondly,.... What Oil, Land, and other Assets has Venezuela stolen from America?!?


""It [the blockade] will only get bigger, and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before — Until such time as they return to the United States of America all of the Oil, Land, and other Assets that they previously stole from us."

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Gunboat Diplomacy Accelerated: US Seizes Another Oil Tanker Off Venezuela's Coast​

by Tyler Durden
Authored...
Update:

Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem confirmed that the U.S. Coast Guard, with support from the Department of War, has seized another oil tanker that was last docked in Venezuela.

"The United States will continue to pursue the illicit movement of sanctioned oil used to fund narco-terrorism in the region. We will find you, and we will stop you," Noem wrote in a post on X.

In a pre-dawn action early this morning on Dec. 20, the US Coast Guard with the support of the Department of War apprehended an oil tanker that was last docked in Venezuela.

The United States will continue to pursue the illicit movement of sanctioned oil that is used to fund… pic.twitter.com/nSZ4mi6axc

— Secretary Kristi Noem (@Sec_Noem) December 20, 2025

Reuters reported earlier about the operation.

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President Trump's gunboat diplomacy is aimed at disrupting crude oil flows moving from Venezuela to Cuba and onward to China. The foreign-policy campaign began earlier this year with U.S. warships stationed off Venezuela's coast in international waters, but it accelerated sharply weeks ago with the U.S. seizure of a sanctioned tanker in the Caribbean and has now escalated further with reports that another tanker was intercepted and seized.

Reuters cites three U.S. officials on Saturday morning who said U.S. forces are interdicting and seizing another tanker off the coast of Venezuela in international waters. This could mark the second such seizure in weeks and comes days after Trump announced a "blockade" of all sanctioned oil tankers in the Venezuela region.

Apparently, U.S. Coast Guard teams are leading this operation amid a broader U.S. military buildup in the region, though officials have not disclosed the exact location of the latest tanker seizure.

Trump's gunboat diplomacy is aimed at the country's autocratic leader, Nicolás Maduro. This ploy could accelerate regime instability in Caracas and materially weaken Cuba.

"Their theory of change involves cutting off all support to Cuba," Juan S. Gonzalez, who was President Joe Biden's top White House aide for Western Hemisphere affairs, recently said. "Under this approach, once Venezuela goes, Cuba will follow."

On Tuesday, Trump ordered a "total and complete blockade" of all sanctioned oil tankers going into and out of Venezuela. He further boasted of the country having been "completely surrounded" with the "largest Armada ever assembled in the History of South America."

He then warned, "It [the blockade] will only get bigger, and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before — Until such time as they return to the United States of America all of the Oil, Land, and other Assets that they previously stole from us."



Brent crude markets slipped underneath $60/bbl last week, ending the week at $60.57, as traders appear numb to Trump's gunboat diplomacy in the Caribbean.



We're surprised Beijing hasn't lashed out at the U.S. for such actions in the Caribbean, given that this disrupts oil trade flows from West to East. Perhaps a deal was made at the Trump-Xi meeting in the fall.

Gunboat Diplomacy Accelerated: US Seizes Another Oil Tanker Off Venezuela's Coast | ZeroHedge

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[TruthSeeker112125]

So, you’re on the side of protecting drug runners?

Not at all,.....But those boats should be intercepted in American waters, and if they open fire on American vessels, then return fire, & sink them if necessary.

It is an Act of War, to do this in International Waters.

 

[Darlo kittu]

Does Cocaine from Venezuela kill more than Fentanyl from Mexico/China (precursor component) each year?

If Venezuela didn't have Oil, and a Dictator we don't like, would we be there?

Why can't the drug runners be stopped through capture?

Amazing how a "D: at the end of a name makes such a huge difference

 

[mikegriffith1]

POTUS Donald Trump, who thought that he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize, without declaring War, bombed Iran.​

Then, instead of intercepting suspected drug running boats in American waters, & showing what these boats were carrying to the American people, he ordered American Forces to blow them up, In International Waters, which is An Act of War, and against International Law via the United Nations, which America is still a member of.

Now, Trump is apparently preparing to attack Venezuela, with American forces.

A "Viet Nam like war"??? Leaving aside your puzzling support for drug cartels and dictators, the Vietnam War was a noble effort to keep 19 million people from falling under communist tyranny, and the war was not only winnable but we were actually winning it right up to the time we signed the Paris Peace Accords in January 1973, and South Vietnam got the better of the fighting in 1973 after we were gone--but then the Democrats in Congress violated our treaty promise and slashed funding for South Vietnam.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

A "Viet Nam like war"??? Leaving aside your puzzling support for drug cartels and dictators, the Vietnam War was a noble effort to keep 19 million people from falling under communist tyranny, and the war was not only winnable but we were actually winning it right up to the time we signed the Paris Peace Accords in January 1973, and South Vietnam got the better of the fighting in 1973 after we were gone--but then the Democrats in Congress violated our treaty promise and slashed funding for South Vietnam.

It's Amazing how so many "Keyboard Warriors", instead of Addressing what I've posted directly..... They have to add their Own Misguided, Baseless Assertions, so as to prop up their argument, over what I've STATED, has Slandered their "Wanna-be-Highly Narcis tic, Self Righteous Political God".

I'm a Viet Nam Era Veteran,, and I say Again, in reference to what Trump has done, & Is doing " Another Viet Nam like War".

And regarding VIetNam,... LBJ Started it over a Lie,... The "Gulf of Tonkin Incident" did happen BUT,... Our Ship was in BN. Viet Nam waters, & It fired upon N. Vietnameese gunboats that were trying to intercept American/ S. Viet Nam Commandoes, who were trying to escape after botching a Failed Assaination Attempt of a N. Vetnam Leader!

That Cost at least 55,000 Dead Americans, Countles thousands of Wounded, with Millions of Wasted dollars spent on a Needless War!

And as far as Your facts on the matter,..... Those are heavily misstated at the least.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

A "Viet Nam like war"??? Leaving aside your puzzling support for drug cartels and dictators, the Vietnam War was a noble effort to keep 19 million people from falling under communist tyranny, and the war was not only winnable but we were actually winning it right up to the time we signed the Paris Peace Accords in January 1973, and South Vietnam got the better of the fighting in 1973 after we were gone--but then the Democrats in Congress violated our treaty promise and slashed funding for South Vietnam.

"Puzzling support for Drug cartels and dictators".

No where, in any of My Posts, will You find any evidence of that.

So, with Your Total Corruption of the Facts, as You zealously uphold the "Twitter-in-Chief", who has No Regard for what The Founding Fathers established,... I'll try to be gentle, but clear here.

Either Your "Public Education "failed you, or You uphold a "Reality" that never existed.

To "Seize/Attack" a foreign vessel, in International Waters, has long been, & is,.... An "Act of War."

America declared, & went to War with England, over this.

"the Vietnam War was a noble effort to keep 19 million people from falling under communist tyranny"

"Noble"?? Bullcrap!

A great many Historical Documents show without fail, that JFK was so infuriated with the Corrupt S. Viet Nam Government, that he was going to pull all American assistance out of S. Viet Nam, but then ,.... He got Assassinated.

Not long after that, .... The "Failed Attempt" to Assassinate a N. Viet Nam Leader, brought about South VIet Nam & American Commandoes, fleeing N. Viet Nam forces, to be attacked in N. Viet Nam waters, by N. Viet Nam gun boats. An American destroyer entered N. Viet Nam waters, & fired upon those gun boats.

The Johnson Admin Literally Lied to the American people, by telling them that N. Viet Nam attacked that destroyer in "International Waters", & called it the 'Gulf of Tonkin Incident".

That "False Incident" was the justification used to rapidly escalate American Troop strength, & materials in S. Viet Nam, so as to stop the "Communists from overrunning Asia".

That "False Incident" in the 1960s ripped America apart, as thousands American Dead were brought home, as well tens of thousands of American Wounded, due to an Undeclared, & Unjustified War.

POTUS Nixon pulled American Forces out of Viet Nam, & called it "Withdrawal with Honor", but how could that be after having at least 50,000 American Troops killed, hundreds of thousands wounded, countless billions of dollars wasted, Millions of Vietnamese killed, and the so called Communist Juggernaut, not moving any further than S. Viet Nam, Cambodia, & Laos!!

America, absolutely must stop "Feeding" what POTUS Eisenhower identified as the "Military/Industrial Complex", and,.... America must return to not interfering in the Affairs of other Nations.

 

[Godboy]

"Puzzling support for Drug cartels and dictators".

No where, in any of My Posts, will You find any evidence of that.

So, with Your Total Corruption of the Facts, as You zealously uphold the "Twitter-in-Chief", who has No Regard for what The Founding Fathers established,... I'll try to be gentle, but clear here.

Either Your "Public Education "failed you, or You uphold a "Reality" that never existed.

To "Seize/Attack" a foreign vessel, in International Waters, has long been, & is,.... An "Act of War."

America declared, & went to War with England, over this.

"the Vietnam War was a noble effort to keep 19 million people from falling under communist tyranny"

"Noble"?? Bullcrap!

A great many Historical Documents show without fail, that JFK was so infuriated with the Corrupt S. Viet Nam Government, that he was going to pull all American assistance out of S. Viet Nam, but then ,.... He got Assassinated.

Not long after that, .... The "Failed Attempt" to Assassinate a N. Viet Nam Leader, brought about South VIet Nam & American Commandoes, fleeing N. Viet Nam forces, to be attacked in N. Viet Nam waters, by N. Viet Nam gun boats. An American destroyer entered N. Viet Nam waters, & fired upon those gun boats.

The Johnson Admin Literally Lied to the American people, by telling them that N. Viet Nam attacked that destroyer in "International Waters", & called it the 'Gulf of Tonkin Incident".

That "False Incident" was the justification used to rapidly escalate American Troop strength, & materials in S. Viet Nam, so as to stop the "Communists from overrunning Asia".

That "False Incident" in the 1960s ripped America apart, as thousands American Dead were brought home, as well tens of thousands of American Wounded, due to an Undeclared, & Unjustified War.

POTUS Nixon pulled American Forces out of Viet Nam, & called it "Withdrawal with Honor", but how could that be after having at least 50,000 American Troops killed, hundreds of thousands wounded, countless billions of dollars wasted, Millions of Vietnamese killed, and the so called Communist Juggernaut, not moving any further than S. Viet Nam, Cambodia, & Laos!!

America, absolutely must stop "Feeding" what POTUS Eisenhower identified as the "Military/Industrial Complex", and,.... America must return to not interfering in the Affairs of other Nations.

When are we going to see this new "Vietnam war" in Venezuela? Why hasnt it happened yet?

 

[Godboy]

I'm a Viet Nam Era Veteran,, and I say Again, in reference to what Trump has done, & Is doing " Another Viet Nam like War".

Oh, youre a Vietnam ERA veteran, but not a Vietnam WAR veteran? This smells an awful lot like stolen valor. Are you being deceptive with your wording?

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

When are we going to see this new "Vietnam war" in Venezuela? Why hasnt it happened yet?

Actions taken by the Trump Admin are just beginning Godboy.

With Your mindset, one who just seeded a lawn, on Sunday, would be expected to mow it by Tuesday.

 

[Hafar1014]

Democrats got is in Vietnam and Afghanistan. Trump is master of the fast strike over quickly war.

 

[Godboy]

Actions taken by the Trump Admin are just beginning Godboy.

With Your mindset, one who just seeded a lawn, on Sunday, would be expected to mow it by Tuesday.

Ok, the US took an action. How is it going to escalate now? Is Venezuela going to hit the US with a counterstrike?Are you REALLY going to imply thats even a possibility?

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Oh, youre a Vietnam ERA veteran, but not a Vietnam WAR veteran? This smells an awful lot like stolen valor. Are you being deceptive with your wording?

"This smells an awful lot like stolen valor"

In No Shape, nor Form, have I EVER, suggested, presented to the public, that I was some kind of Viet Nam War hero.

You can take Your theories & shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

And that "Smell" is the overflowing crap between yer ears.

 

[Godboy]

"This smells an awful lot like stolen valor"

In No Shape, nor Form, have I EVER, suggested, presented to the public, that I was some kind of Viet Nam War hero.

You can take Your theories & shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

And that "Smell" is the overflowing crap between yer ears.

Then why the **** did you say you were a "Vietnam era veteran"? Do i get to claim that im a "Persian Gulf era veteran", even though i never served there? It happened a year before i even joined, but i was a veteran in that "era" apparently?

Thats some slimy word play. Thats stolen valor and you should be ashamed.

 

[Delldude]

Thats stolen valor and you should be ashamed.

You're an asshole.