Trump Is Giving Zelensky The Boot

[Frankeneinstein]

So Trump is booting him out the door because he refused to even talk about peace.

Frankly I think he made a massive mistake.

No, the mistake was made by Zelenski during the "perfect phone call" debacle from trump 1...he picked the wrong team and now he's paying the piper...anyone disagreeing can feel free to dress this up any way ya like.

 

[struth]

Fighting for freedom is a scam??

Z made clear today he isn’t fighting for freedom he wants to continue to allow his countrymen to die so he can keep getting US tax payers money

 

[TimFitz]

And again, Zelenski is a dictator right now. He halted all elections. It's what dictators do to keep power.

Zelinsky was elected. The Ukranian Constitution allows for suspension of elections in times of marshal law, such as in a war.

It is very dishonest to suggest that Zelinsky is holding on to power.

There is no evidence to suggest that he is anything less than a national hero.

 

[struth]

Zelinsky was elected. The Ukranian Constitution allows for suspension of elections in times of marshal law, such as in a war.

It is very dishonest to suggest that Zelinsky is holding on to power.

There is no evidence to suggest that he is anything less than a national hero.

Can you cite to the part in their constitution that allows the president to suspend elections…

 

[Muhammed]

Zelensky is a Jew, but he's thrown in with the Nazis.

Ukraine's best fighting forces are the Nazi groups like the Azov Regiment. They don't give a **** about what Zelensky says. They have ignored every cease fire.

 

[Muhammed]

I do know that the little pr*ck was the reason the Democrats impeached him the first time.

That was no fault of Zelensky's. It's wrong to blame Zelensky for something that the Democrats did. He had nothing to do with Trump's impeachment.

 

[mudwhistle]

That was no fault of Zelensky's. It's wrong to blame Zelensky for something that the Democrats did. He had nothing to do with Trump's impeachment.

Wow. That explains why he was campaigning in PA with the Democrats before the election?

I don't trust that ******, and it's clear Trump doesn't trust him either.

Trump did over the phone what he just did on camera in the Oval Office, and the Democrats used it to bring articles of impeachment against him.

None of these people can be trusted.
These evil bastards are up to something.

 

[mudwhistle]

Ukraine's best fighting forces are the Nazi groups like the Azov Regiment. They don't give a **** about what Zelensky says. They have ignored every cease fire.

That's Zelensky's problem. Nevermind the fact that they haven't bother negotiating a cease fire in over 3 years.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[BackAgain]

Vance is an asshole, he misregarded protocol. Zelensky is still a president.

Vance was great.

You prefer the silliness of the kind of “diplomacy” which would frown on calling Hitler an insane murderous piece of shit.

 

[BackAgain]

Zelinsky was elected. The Ukranian Constitution allows for suspension of elections in times of marshal law, such as in a war.

It is very dishonest to suggest that Zelinsky is holding on to power.

There is no evidence to suggest that he is anything less than a national hero.

 

[TimFitz]

Z made clear today he isn’t fighting for freedom he wants to continue to allow his countrymen to die so he can keep getting US tax payers money

No, he was making it clear that his country will not agree to any deal that Trump and Putin cook up without giving Ukraine a seat at the table.

It IS their country, a point that Trumpsters seem to ignore.

 

[TimFitz]

Vance was great.

You prefer the silliness of the kind of “diplomacy” which would frown on calling Hitler an insane murderous piece of shit.

Yes, because juvenile bullying makes Trump and Vance look like petulant children.

Trump is bent on cowardice before Putin.

 

[BackAgain]

Yes, because juvenile bullying makes Trump and Vance look like petulant children.

Trump is bent on cowardice before Putin.

It’s not juvenile just because assholes like you assume going down on the guy would be preferable diplomacy.

You’re just bent.

 

[struth]

No, he was making it clear that his country will not agree to any deal that Trump and Putin cook up without giving Ukraine a seat at the table.

It IS their country, a point that Trumpsters seem to ignore.

Hey dumb **** Ukraine was at the table today, Putin wasn’t there

Z said screw his country today and screw the American tax payer

 

[krichton]

Even the Japanese who commit suicide if they dishonour their people and surrender, knew when enough was enough.

Zelensky has probably been convinced by Europe and some in the military complex to not sign, to have the war continue.

This ensures Russias remains in a state of war economy and Europe will have to send soldiers and money. Putin can win a war of attrition and the chances of China attacking Taiwan, starting WWIII. Then what?

It's time for peace, unless Europe is going to send troops.

Why would Zelensky need to be convinced? All he wants is a security guarantee and Trump is unwilling to give it.

Putin can win a war of attrition? If that's so, why would he need Trump's help to end the war? He can simply do it on his terms entirely.

I agree, it's time for peace. Tell that to Putin

 

[krichton]

You would think a man who got billions from us would be more respectful.... the mineral deal which would place peacekeepers in theater and a US footprint so Putin wouldn't dare invade again.... it was a good deal for both countries.... If Zelenskyy thinks he can defeat Russia he is crazy... Ukraine has been asking for us to partner with them on this since 2018 and now it may not happen at all....

It's not a guarantee. The fact that Trump is unwilling to give it demonstrates this implicitly. Why would a leader of any country make some crazy deal like the one trump wanted, on someone else's "implied" terms?

 

[jc456]

Zelinsky was elected. The Ukranian Constitution allows for suspension of elections in times of marshal law, such as in a war.

It is very dishonest to suggest that Zelinsky is holding on to power.

There is no evidence to suggest that he is anything less than a national hero.

He declared marshal law dumbass

 

[Rambunctious]

It's not a guarantee. The fact that Trump is unwilling to give it demonstrates this implicitly. Why would a leader of any country make some crazy deal like the one trump wanted, on someone else's "implied" terms?

Ukraine has wanted this deal long before the war started... they were asking for it in 2018... they wanted this partnership because they thought it could dissuade Putin from attaching if US businesses were in their country...
And it would have worked and still could even better than making them part of NATO...
I can see why Zelenskyy is slow to sign a deal with Russia but his people are dying and you have in some cases Russian Ukrainians fighting their own... it has to stop first then you can piece it back together...

 

[Scoutster]

No, he was making it clear that his country will not agree to any deal that Trump and Putin cook up without giving Ukraine a seat at the table.

It IS their country, a point that Trumpsters seem to ignore.

That’s great, Trump just cut off all funding for them. Let’s see how they do.