Trump is finally saying “No”. Outstanding.

[toobfreak]

Well, that's the system we have,

Then we are seriously screwed up. But then, who didn't already know that. Legal is the one thing most in need of instant, radical change in this world while simultaneously being the one thing most resistant to change, fix or repair no matter how much it is needed. Our entire justice system is based on 12th century ideas and can be instantly proven totally flawed in under 5 minutes, so no one in justice can possibly deny knowledge of same.

but remember, there are appeals. Usually a three judge panel and it could wind up be 7 in an en banc review.

Of course. The principle reason for our justice system, much like healthcare, is to complicate and involve the maximum number of layers, courts and time possible even in the smallest of decisions in order to maximize the flow of cash through the most lawyers hands for the longest period of time, much like all healthcare decisions are now based on whatever makes the most money for the corporation which owns the hospital system involved.

 

[excalibur]

You might want to read Article 3, Section 1 again. It gives congress the power to establish inferior courts to the Supreme Court. They are as much Article 3 courts as SCOTUS.
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That isn't what I said, what I did say was the only Constitutional court, thus a co-equal branch, is the one Supreme Court.

Congress cannot create lower courts that have a co-equal function with the Executive.

 

[OKTexas]

That isn't what I said, what I did say was the only Constitutional court, thus a co-equal branch, is the one Supreme Court.

Congress cannot create lower courts that have a co-equal function with the Executive.

All Article 3 courts are part of the Judicial Branch, of course SCOTUS always has the final say.

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[toobfreak]

All Article 3 courts are part of the Judicial Branch,

Well, Tex, they are courts---

how could they NOT then be part of the judicial branch?

All I'm saying is that they cannot solitarily have final say over an elected president. I mean, they are telling him yes and no over everyday executive matters of his carrying out his daily jobs, not even some heinous, impeachable action.

Meanwhile, has there been even a single one of these judges to order a mayor or governor they CANNOT withhold ordinary police interaction and cooperation between ICE and the police to MINIMIZE harm to the community?

Has even ONE of these judges ordered that police captain in Phili that no, she cannot threaten law enforcement from the federal government that they are not allowed to enter their city to enforce federal law?

WHY do these bozos continually make ICE out as the problem when ICE is minding their own business enforcing immigration law all over this country without a problem, and that the only problems we have had are where street citizens are being organized and sent in by democrats of the city to literally attack and assault these ICE agents?!

 

[OKTexas]

Well, Tex, they are courts---

how could they NOT then be part of the judicial branch?

All I'm saying is that they cannot solitarily have final say over an elected president. I mean, they are telling him yes and no over everyday executive matters of his carrying out his daily jobs, not even some heinous, impeachable action.

Meanwhile, has there been even a single one of these judges to order a mayor or governor they CANNOT withhold ordinary police interaction and cooperation between ICE and the police to MINIMIZE harm to the community?

Has even ONE of these judges ordered that police captain in Phili that no, she cannot threaten law enforcement from the federal government that they are not allowed to enter their city to enforce federal law?

WHY do these bozos continually make ICE out as the problem when ICE is minding their own business enforcing immigration law all over this country without a problem, and that the only problems we have had are where street citizens are being organized and sent in by democrats of the city to literally attack and assault these ICE agents?!

Has a case been filed to require local law enforcement to cooperate with ICE? You can't get a judgement without a case before the court.

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[toobfreak]

Has a case been filed to require local law enforcement to cooperate with ICE? You can't get a judgement without a case before the court.

And there you go. Public officials are making the unusual decision to obstruct the normal, customary cooperation and coordination between ICE and police so that harm to the community is minimized, and instead, two people have died, and everything has been blamed except for the actual two people most involved, and no case has even been filed before any court.

 

[d0gbreath]

If Trump can ignore the courts and laws, everyone can.

He's trying to be more like me.

 

[Seymour Flops]

If Trump can ignore the courts and laws, everyone can.

You mean everyone who serves as president?

Ignoring the courts =/= ignoring the laws.

The president holds all executive power, which includes enforcing federal law.

Nothing in the United States Constitution requires a president to say "mother may I" before taking executive action, nor does anything in that document give power to the judicial to control the executive.

 

[OKTexas]

And there you go. Public officials are making the unusual decision to obstruct the normal, customary cooperation and coordination between ICE and police so that harm to the community is minimized, and instead, two people have died, and everything has been blamed except for the actual two people most involved, and no case has even been filed before any court.

Blame their voters, they elected people that are un-American.

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[HikerGuy83]

If Trump can ignore the courts and laws, everyone can.

Please do. Go ahead. Let us know so we can set up a gofundme for you.

Oh, and BTW, most of you already do. You harbor illegals and you obstruct LE.

 

[pknopp]

Please do. Go ahead. Let us know so we can set up a gofundme for you.

Oh, and BTW, most of you already do. You harbor illegals and you obstruct LE.

You hire them which draws them here.

 

[HikerGuy83]

You hire them which draws them here.

I don't hire anyone.

 

[pknopp]

I don't hire anyone.

Sure you do.

 

[toobfreak]

Blame their voters, they elected people that are un-American.

Sure, you can always blame the voters, but not /entirely./ Not if it is a matter of picking a bad person over a terrible person. If everyone just says that they won't vote for someone unless they can fully support everything they say then, all it takes is just one person to vote for the terrible guy to get him into office.

I mean, it's still better to have the bad guy if it means keeping the terrible guy out. A small wound is better than a deep gash.

There is plenty of blame to go around to all involved. Every few years the voter is faced with making a choice between the candidates offered. Maybe if most people were not already struggling just to make it through the day, more people would have an excess of energy to become active in their local politics too.

 

[San Souci]

What exactly do you think courts do? LOL

Supposedly they are NOT supposed to have an agenda.