Trump is betraying "MAGA!" & "America First!"

[j-mac]

Wow, if you think that, then that shows why you shouldn't be anywhere near a message board...

This board used to have a slogan, maybe they still do, that said something to the order of "political discussion, where civility is a must" or something like that....Clearly that has flown out the window, with people like you (if you are a real person and not a bot)...

But it is curious...In reading your post here, you speak of "creating a record"... What is it really you want that record for? Can you be honest about that?

Just wanted to say, he never responded to my question

 

[Alicia J]

So, the pets disappeared, and some Haitians were spotted killing geese in the park, and there’s nothing fishy about that? Where’d the pets go?

Freaking Jesus freak MAGA weirdo....

 

[SaxonJackson]

This "Liberty Vault" guy is an ex-MAGA conservative who had it with Trump and MAGA. He knows it was a con.

Here he's showing ex-MAGA conservative podcaster Dave Smith laying into Trump and all the BS.

Oh, and here's the LEAVING MAGA Support Group.

I'm subscribed to Dave Smith and agree with most of what he has to say. Dave is one of the rare cases of a Jew who opposes Zionism as well as Trump's Deep State. He wins most of his debates against various Trump cult members and isn't afraid to say it like it is.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Nice meme, but you’d have to prove that he’s “lining his pockets”

Aren't POTUS supposed to Fully Dis-associate their selves from any of their Businesses, and not use their Government Office as a means to promote Products for Financial Gain?

Have You considered buying a "Trumpybear"? A "Trump Bible"? A pair of "Trump Gym Shoes"? a "Trump Coin"?

Howz about Investing in "Truth Social"?

What about that "Board of Peace", where one has to pay Big $$$, in order to have a Vote, with that $$$$ being controlled by Trump?

 

[j-mac]

Aren't POTUS supposed to Fully Dis-associate their selves from any of their Businesses, and not use their Government Office as a means to promote Products for Financial Gain?

Have You considered buying a "Trumpybear"? A "Trump Bible"? A pair of "Trump Gym Shoes"? a "Trump Coin"?

Howz about Investing in "Truth Social"?

What about that "Board of Peace", where one has to pay Big $$$, in order to have a Vote, with that $$$$ being controlled by Trump?

AFAIK, there’s no law requiring a sitting President to divest, or dissociate from their business.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

So, the pets disappeared, and some Haitians were spotted killing geese in the park, and there’s nothing fishy about that? Where’d the pets go?

You need to use a "different kinda bait" J-mac.

When You ask a Common Sense Question, or make an Intelligent Statement,.... Then We can Debate the matter.

But I Ain't gonna hold my breath till then,.... Cuz' I'd pass out.

 

[j-mac]

You need to use a "different kinda bait" J-mac.

When You ask a Common Sense Question, or make an Intelligent Statement,.... Then We can Debate the matter.

But I Ain't gonna hold my breath till then,.... Cuz' I'd pass out.

Ok, run away…

 

[SaxonJackson]

Aren't POTUS supposed to Fully Dis-associate their selves from any of their Businesses, and not use their Government Office as a means to promote Products for Financial Gain?

Have You considered buying a "Trumpybear"? A "Trump Bible"? A pair of "Trump Gym Shoes"? a "Trump Coin"?

Howz about Investing in "Truth Social"?

What about that "Board of Peace", where one has to pay Big $$$, in order to have a Vote, with that $$$$ being controlled by Trump?

Trump likely became President for the express purpose of signing business contracts and becoming filthy rich in the process. None of the past 10 Presidents (at least) gave the idea of helping the American people a second thought.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

AFAIK, there’s no law requiring a sitting President to divest, or dissociate from their business.

Yeah, you're right, and he's not

From AI:
No federal law currently requires a sitting president to divest from or dissociate from their private business interests. While strict ethics laws apply to most executive branch employees, the president is explicitly exempt from the primary statute governing financial conflicts of interest

 

[jacksonlamb]

Shut up stupid.

Sit down in the corner and hit on some Hopeium.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

To Me, Trump is Absolutely reaching the point, of trying to be a Dictator here.

Suspending One, or All, of Our Constitutional Rights is Absolutely "Crossing the final line" In My Belief!

Now You "Trumpsters" can "Gloss this over", & "Perfume it up", & "Run cover" for Your "Wannabe God", the "Twitter-in-Chief", all You want, BUT,.....

Attempting to, and even just "hinting at", taking away from Our Constitution is TREASON!!!!!

America Absolutely, And QUICKLY, Needs More Leaders, that THINK/ACT like Thomas Massie, and Marjory Taylor Green, ...... If that doesn't happen, then that Nation that was richly, & deeply Blessed by The Almighty LORD GOD, that drew the Envy, & Fear of the World, will soon disappear just like the British, & Roman Empires!!!!

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"President Donald Trump said Congress must extend Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) even if it means giving up “rights and privileges.” Section 702 allows for the collection of Americans’ data without a warrant.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump urged House Republicans to reject any amendments to the legislation that would extend Section 702. “I am asking Republicans to UNIFY, and vote together on the test vote to bring a clean Bill to the floor,” he wrote. “We need to stick together when this Bill comes before the House Rules Committee today to keep it CLEAN!”

Republican Congressman Thomas Massie attempted to introduce three amendments to the legislation that would have required law enforcement to obtain a warrant before collecting Americans’ data. His amendments were rejected.

Trump argued that he and Americans should be willing to sacrifice their 4th Amendment right to privacy in exchange for security. “While parts of FISA were illegally and unfortunately used against me in the Democrats’ disgraceful Witch Hunt and Attack in the RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA Hoax, and perhaps would be used against me in the future, I am willing to risk the giving up of my Rights and Privileges as a Citizen for our Great Military and Country!” He added, “Our Military Patriots desperately need FISA 702, and it is one of the reasons we have had such tremendous SUCCESS on the battlefield.”


Trump Argues Warrantless Surveillance Is Needed to Secure America | The Libertarian Institute
Trump Argues Warrantless Surveillance Is Needed to Secure America | The Libertarian Institute

 

[BackAgain]

the "Trump. Haitians Eating Cats", Thingy, caught my attention, especially since it's only about a two hour drive from me.

I gathered a lot of Data about the matter, & saved it to a Folder.

Trump absolutely did state that the Haitians were eating cats, but the problem is,.... The "Cat being ate" came on the news, in the same hour, as the "Haitians being in a panic about being deported, & their Gaming th' System".

"The Cat, got ate", by a woman about a 3 hr drive to the North of me, & she was either a Certifiable Lunatic, or Demonically Possessed.

What Trump didn't state, but the Local News has, as well as the Local & State Authorities,..... The Haitians have illegally Caught, & Eaten, the Ducks, & Geese, at the City Park. And, many people who have raised chickens, ducks, rabbits etc. in back yard cages, have reported their missing to the Police.

And,..... The "Dog Population" in Springfield, Ohio has also drastically dropped!

Now, since I can not Truthfully speak for what Trump "Thinks", and I can only "Judge" what he says, & does,..... Trump, being POTUS,..... Especially since he stated that "He would run America like a Business",...... Trump absolutely should have verified the Data, before "Publicly Gushing", about the "Haitians eating Cats".

I wouldn’t call it “gushing.” But I do agree with you that he should have verified that alleged “information” before making that claim.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

As Trump is "Running America like one of his Businesses" what has he publicly stated about this "Bill" that will require "Digital Verification"? ​

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The ‘age verification’ bill is a Trojan horse for a REQUIRED national digital ID and CBDC system. [VIDEO]​

April 17, 2026 3:53 pm by Alex

"House Resolution 8250, a bill to require mandatory age verification on operating systems like Windows, iOS, and Android, is being described as a “Trojan horse” for a national digital ID system. Guest Austin Steinbart calls the bill a “disaster” and a privacy nightmare, noting it delegates implementation authority to the FTC, which could use biometrics. The system is linked to a larger push for Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs), with quotes from BlackRock’s Larry Fink on the tokenization of all financial assets to create a digital wallet system."


The ‘age verification’ bill is a Trojan horse for a REQUIRED national digital ID and CBDC system. [VIDEO]

 

[Carl in Michigan]

To Me, Trump is Absolutely reaching the point, of trying to be a Dictator here.

Suspending One, or All, of Our Constitutional Rights is Absolutely "Crossing the final line" In My Belief!

Now You "Trumpsters" can "Gloss this over", & "Perfume it up", & "Run cover" for Your "Wannabe God", the "Twitter-in-Chief", all You want, BUT,.....

Attempting to, and even just "hinting at", taking away from Our Constitution is TREASON!!!!!

America Absolutely, And QUICKLY, Needs More Leaders, that THINK/ACT like Thomas Massie, and Marjory Taylor Green, ...... If that doesn't happen, then that Nation that was richly, & deeply Blessed by The Almighty LORD GOD, that drew the Envy, & Fear of the World, will soon disappear just like the British, & Roman Empires!!!!

==============

"President Donald Trump said Congress must extend Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) even if it means giving up “rights and privileges.” Section 702 allows for the collection of Americans’ data without a warrant.

In a post on Truth Social, Trump urged House Republicans to reject any amendments to the legislation that would extend Section 702. “I am asking Republicans to UNIFY, and vote together on the test vote to bring a clean Bill to the floor,” he wrote. “We need to stick together when this Bill comes before the House Rules Committee today to keep it CLEAN!”

Republican Congressman Thomas Massie attempted to introduce three amendments to the legislation that would have required law enforcement to obtain a warrant before collecting Americans’ data. His amendments were rejected.

Trump argued that he and Americans should be willing to sacrifice their 4th Amendment right to privacy in exchange for security. “While parts of FISA were illegally and unfortunately used against me in the Democrats’ disgraceful Witch Hunt and Attack in the RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA Hoax, and perhaps would be used against me in the future, I am willing to risk the giving up of my Rights and Privileges as a Citizen for our Great Military and Country!” He added, “Our Military Patriots desperately need FISA 702, and it is one of the reasons we have had such tremendous SUCCESS on the battlefield.”


Trump Argues Warrantless Surveillance Is Needed to Secure America | The Libertarian Institute
Trump Argues Warrantless Surveillance Is Needed to Secure America | The Libertarian Institute

Section 702 only permits the targeting of non-United States persons who are reasonably believed to be located outside the United States. United States persons and anyone in the United States may not be targeted under Section 702. Section 702 also prohibits “reverse targeting”—the IC may not target a non-U.S. person located outside the U.S. if the purpose of the collection is to collect information about a United States person or anyone located in the United States.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

non-United States persons who are reasonably believed to be located outside the United States. United States persons and anyone in the United States may not be targeted under Section 702. Section 702 also prohibits “reverse targeting”—the IC may not target a non-U.S. person located outside the U.S. if the purpose of the collection is to collect information about a United States person or anyone located in the United States.

You either Ignored, or Failed to Read the "Patriot" & "Homeland Security" Acts. Am I Right Carl?

FISA,... Is just "Th' Icing on that Cake",..... Call it "Big Brother", or if that makes You "Un-comfortable" ,.... Call it "The United Stat6es Government",... Either way, ever since 9-11/ & The passage of those Federal Laws, as well as their being added to & supplemented,..."Big Brother" has been monitoring All Electronic communications entering/ leaving, & being carried out in America.

And, since one of Trump's "BFFS", Peter Thiel, the Co-Founder of "Palantir" won a very, very lucrative Contract for that Surveillance System,..... Everything that One says, & does Electronically in America is Monitored 24/7, even on this Platform.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/?terminal=true

 

[Carl in Michigan]

This is who some of you idiots want to see with the removal of President Trump and replacing our government with Democrats. This is who they are now

 

[j-mac]

You either Ignored, or Failed to Read the "Patriot" & "Homeland Security" Acts. Am I Right Carl?

FISA,... Is just "Th' Icing on that Cake",..... Call it "Big Brother", or if that makes You "Un-comfortable" ,.... Call it "The United Stat6es Government",... Either way, ever since 9-11/ & The passage of those Federal Laws, as well as their being added to & supplemented,..."Big Brother" has been monitoring All Electronic communications entering/ leaving, & being carried out in America.

And, since one of Trump's "BFFS", Peter Thiel, the Co-Founder of "Palantir" won a very, very lucrative Contract for that Surveillance System,..... Everything that One says, & does Electronically in America is Monitored 24/7, even on this Platform.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2018-palantir-peter-thiel/?terminal=true

Then you ought to be careful.

 

[BackAgain]

As Trump is "Running America like one of his Businesses" what has he publicly stated about this "Bill" that will require "Digital Verification"? ​

================

​

The ‘age verification’ bill is a Trojan horse for a REQUIRED national digital ID and CBDC system. [VIDEO]​

April 17, 2026 3:53 pm by Alex

"House Resolution 8250, a bill to require mandatory age verification on operating systems like Windows, iOS, and Android, is being described as a “Trojan horse” for a national digital ID system. Guest Austin Steinbart calls the bill a “disaster” and a privacy nightmare, noting it delegates implementation authority to the FTC, which could use biometrics. The system is linked to a larger push for Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs), with quotes from BlackRock’s Larry Fink on the tokenization of all financial assets to create a digital wallet system."


The ‘age verification’ bill is a Trojan horse for a REQUIRED national digital ID and CBDC system. [VIDEO]

While I can easily get why it could be seen as a so-called “Trojan horse,” I see no credible basis to imagine that any such intent lays behind it.

That aside, I am ambivalent. While I see it as obvious that we do need to address the unduly easy access of minors to porn — and while we urgently need to find some way to thwart the use of the internet to assist in things like pedophilia — it is also true that we need to avoid a national ID system.

Why we need to avoid a national ID system is so that we don’t later have to confront any governmental ability to emulate China and its authoritarian “social credit” scoring system.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

He’s ensuring America’s strength, and prosperity, even for ingrates like you.

Please explain how pushing the world into famine and recession ensures America’s strength and prosperity.

 

[BackAgain]

He is nuts.....

I hereby make a retraction. Based on some back and forth in another thread, I have to concede that I am guilty of overgeneralizing my criticism of Ram.

To LA RAM FAN I extend a well deserved apology. Yes, you can say shit I disagree with but then again, on occasion, we are all capable of saying stupid shit.