Trump Imitates Chinese Communist Party

[healthmyths]

Not sure if you know this or not but a lot of those companies you mentioned hire a lot of Americans...who pay taxes through payroll deductions and income taxes in addition every April.
It doesn’t sound like we’re getting “nothing” from those subsidies but I’m sure you’ll now tell us. I’m sure it will be hilarious so let’s hear it.

I agree 100% and as you said "not sure if you know this..."
How many of you KNOW that All employers of businesses ALREADY MATCH your SS/Medicare payments every pay day?
An Intel as an employer matches percentage for Social Security and Medicare (FICA taxes) is 7.65% (6.2% Social Security + 1.45% Medicare).
Based on available data, the total amount paid by employers to Social Security and Medicare is tied to wages paid to employees and is estimated at $1.233 trillion in Net payroll tax contributions.
Now for the FACT source: Topic no. 751, Social Security and Medicare withholding rates | Internal Revenue Service.

 

[healthmyths]

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What is your source regarding "socialist countries" ownership?

 

[Doc7505]

The US government shouldn't be owning anything in the economy like this. That is Socialism. I don't care who does it, it is Socialism.

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We can thank FDR for starting this take over of key businesses.

Tennessee Valley Authority Act (1933)

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www.archives.gov

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Fascist plots in the U.S.: Contemporary lessons from the 1934 “Business Plot” – Liberation School

Rockhill details the defeated fascist attempt to overthrow FDR and the New Deal in 1934.

www.liberationschool.org

 

[Doc7505]

I agree 100% and as you said "not sure if you know this..."
How many of you KNOW that All employers of businesses ALREADY MATCH your SS/Medicare payments every pay day?
An Intel as an employer matches percentage for Social Security and Medicare (FICA taxes) is 7.65% (6.2% Social Security + 1.45% Medicare).
Based on available data, the total amount paid by employers to Social Security and Medicare is tied to wages paid to employees and is estimated at $1.233 trillion in Net payroll tax contributions.
Now for the FACT source: Topic no. 751, Social Security and Medicare withholding rates | Internal Revenue Service.

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Unfortunately we all forget that ist was Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat) that introduced Fascism into American governance and it's grown like topsy.
Seems Democrats forget that Obamacare is also a form of Socialist Fascism.

 

[22lcidw]

lol....

And of course you’d be all in favor of taxpayers getting a good ROI right?

So when a company in which we now own stock wants to pollute the environment, violate labor laws, screw their competition who are not partly owned by the government..you’re be all for that right?

This is just one reason why government ownership of corporations is a bad idea. Its pretty obvious but somehow, I’m 100% sure you won’t understand that concept.

The trillions of dollars spent on green energy over the years with government money is another concept with much of it wasted.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The banks shouldn't have been bailed out.

The Ringleader Brothers' Burn'em and Bailout Circus

 

[JLW]

Three days after the United States agreed to acquire a stake in the chipmaker Intel, President Trump signaled on Monday that he would pursue similar investments in other major companies, describing his new economic strategy as an attempt to “get as much as I can.”

Mr. Trump’s pledge underscored a significant and potentially risky shift in the relationship between government and private enterprise. With a particular focus on powerful computer chips, the White House expressed new fervor for nationalizing certain industries and technologies, in ways that conservatives once may have found unfathomable.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/us/politics/trump-intel-economy-strategy.html

There really is a paradigm shift occurring here. MAGAs are going far to the left of most democrats on government interference in private business. MAGA like their hat, is going full red. Seems to me Trump is mimicking the Xi model of economic development. Trump is on the march to start nationalizing private enterprise or having the government heavily involved in private business affairs. Can you imagine what the right would be saying if this were Obama or Biden???

 

[1srelluc]

Thread #4.

 

[Mrkelly]

Thread #4.

Have you given your thoughts on any of them?

 

[progressive hunter]

Three days after the United States agreed to acquire a stake in the chipmaker Intel, President Trump signaled on Monday that he would pursue similar investments in other major companies, describing his new economic strategy as an attempt to “get as much as I can.”

Mr. Trump’s pledge underscored a significant and potentially risky shift in the relationship between government and private enterprise. With a particular focus on powerful computer chips, the White House expressed new fervor for nationalizing certain industries and technologies, in ways that conservatives once may have found unfathomable.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/us/politics/trump-intel-economy-strategy.html

There really is a paradigm shift occurring here. MAGAs are going far to the left of most democrats on government interference in private business. MAGA like their hat, is going full red. Seems to me Trump is mimicking the Xi model of economic development. Trump is on the march to start nationalizing private enterprise or having the government heavily involved in private business affairs. Can you imagine what the right would be saying if this were Obama or Biden???

hes just going for the democrat votes in the 2028 election,,

 

[Crepitus]

Three days after the United States agreed to acquire a stake in the chipmaker Intel, President Trump signaled on Monday that he would pursue similar investments in other major companies, describing his new economic strategy as an attempt to “get as much as I can.”

Mr. Trump’s pledge underscored a significant and potentially risky shift in the relationship between government and private enterprise. With a particular focus on powerful computer chips, the White House expressed new fervor for nationalizing certain industries and technologies, in ways that conservatives once may have found unfathomable.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/us/politics/trump-intel-economy-strategy.html

There really is a paradigm shift occurring here. MAGAs are going far to the left of most democrats on government interference in private business. MAGA like their hat, is going full red. Seems to me Trump is mimicking the Xi model of economic development. Trump is on the march to start nationalizing private enterprise or having the government heavily involved in private business affairs. Can you imagine what the right would be saying if this were Obama or Biden???

That's Communism. In Socialism the people own the means of production, not the government.

 

[JLW]

That's Communism. In Socialism the people own the means of production, not the government.

Many of these MAGA are closeted commies. I mean look at they way they cheer Trump’s attacks on private enterprise,

 

[Oddball]

 

[kyzr]

Many of these MAGA are closeted commies. I mean look at they way they cheer Trump’s attacks on private enterprise,

Giving taxpayer money to corporations as "subsidies" is fascism, not communism.
Subsidies have been given out for decades, its not new.
What Trump is saying is, instead of gifting taxpayer subsidies, we want stock in the companies we are giving the subsidy to.
That is capitalism. Money for nothing is fascism. Investing in companies is capitalism. See the difference?

Which U.S. Companies Receive the Most Government Subsidies?

Government subsidies are nearing tens of billions for some companies. Here’s the ones which got the most taxpayer support.

www.visualcapitalist.com

 

[1srelluc]

Have you given your thoughts on any of them?

Just one, saves on site resources.

 

[Mrkelly]

Just one, saves on site resources.

Didn’t know that they were limited

 

[dblack]

Three days after the United States agreed to acquire a stake in the chipmaker Intel, President Trump signaled on Monday that he would pursue similar investments in other major companies, describing his new economic strategy as an attempt to “get as much as I can.”

Mr. Trump’s pledge underscored a significant and potentially risky shift in the relationship between government and private enterprise. With a particular focus on powerful computer chips, the White House expressed new fervor for nationalizing certain industries and technologies, in ways that conservatives once may have found unfathomable.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/us/politics/trump-intel-economy-strategy.html

There really is a paradigm shift occurring here. MAGAs are going far to the left of most democrats on government interference in private business. MAGA like their hat, is going full red. Seems to me Trump is mimicking the Xi model of economic development. Trump is on the march to start nationalizing private enterprise or having the government heavily involved in private business affairs. Can you imagine what the right would be saying if this were Obama or Biden???

Socialism and fascism dovetail to the same place.

 

[JLW]

Socialism and fascism dovetail to the same place.

Trump is a prime example of that merger.

 

[dblack]

Oddball - you still shilling for Trump? I thought maybe you'd finally had enough.

 

[BackAgain]

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If you thought the first one sucked, let’s just say that their reiterations (like this steaming pile of crap thread) didn’t improve on it any.