Trump idolatry has undermined religious faith

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘Much has been written about White evangelicals’ central role in the fraying of democracy. More attention, however, should be paid to the damage the political movement has inflicted on religion itself.

The demographic — which remains in the throes of White grievance and an apocalyptic vision that postulates America (indeed “Western civilization”) is under attack from socialists, foreigners and secularists — forms the core of the MAGA movement. Many have rejected the sanctity of elections, the principle of inclusion and even objective reality.

The consequences have been dire for American politics. The siege mentality has morphed into an ends-justify-the-means style of politics in which lies, brutal discourse and even violence are applauded as necessary to protect “real America.” Essential features of democracy, such as the peaceful transfer of power, compromise with political opponents and defining America as an idea and not a racial or religious identity, have fallen by the wayside.

Sadly, the degradation of democracy has intensified in the wake of Joe Biden’s victory. The doctrinal elevation of the “big lie," the increase in violent rhetoric and the effort to rig elections all reflect a heightened desperation by the MAGA crowd. This has driven the GOP to new lows (e.g., vaccine refusal to “own the libs,” virtually all House Republicans defending an animation depicting the murder of a congresswoman).’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/28/trump-idolatry-has-undermined-religious-faith/

We should be more concerned about the degradation of democracy than any damage inflicted on religion.

 

[progressive hunter]

‘Much has been written about White evangelicals’ central role in the fraying of democracy. More attention, however, should be paid to the damage the political movement has inflicted on religion itself.

The demographic — which remains in the throes of White grievance and an apocalyptic vision that postulates America (indeed “Western civilization”) is under attack from socialists, foreigners and secularists — forms the core of the MAGA movement. Many have rejected the sanctity of elections, the principle of inclusion and even objective reality.

The consequences have been dire for American politics. The siege mentality has morphed into an ends-justify-the-means style of politics in which lies, brutal discourse and even violence are applauded as necessary to protect “real America.” Essential features of democracy, such as the peaceful transfer of power, compromise with political opponents and defining America as an idea and not a racial or religious identity, have fallen by the wayside.

Sadly, the degradation of democracy has intensified in the wake of Joe Biden’s victory. The doctrinal elevation of the “big lie," the increase in violent rhetoric and the effort to rig elections all reflect a heightened desperation by the MAGA crowd. This has driven the GOP to new lows (e.g., vaccine refusal to “own the libs,” virtually all House Republicans defending an animation depicting the murder of a congresswoman).’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/28/trump-idolatry-has-undermined-religious-faith/

We should be more concerned about the degradation of democracy than any damage inflicted on religion.

we dont have a democracy, and you need to get a life outside of the MSM,, its turned your braiin into jelly

 

[Esdraelon]

we dont have a democracy, and you need to get a life outside of the MSM,, its turned your braiin into jelly

Those in power who actually do understand the jeopardy the Dems face next year and beyond are going to keep ramping up tensions and feeding the red meat to their insanely hateful base so that when the Oval Office is sought and won (again) by Trump, they'll have people ready to pour into streets in some violent, brand crusade to save "democracy". Watch it happen. But they better understand that this time around, they won't be alone in those streets. If they try to steal it again, it's going to require some serious skin in the game.

 

[JGalt]

‘Much has been written about White evangelicals’ central role in the fraying of democracy. More attention, however, should be paid to the damage the political movement has inflicted on religion itself.

The demographic — which remains in the throes of White grievance and an apocalyptic vision that postulates America (indeed “Western civilization”) is under attack from socialists, foreigners and secularists — forms the core of the MAGA movement. Many have rejected the sanctity of elections, the principle of inclusion and even objective reality.

The consequences have been dire for American politics. The siege mentality has morphed into an ends-justify-the-means style of politics in which lies, brutal discourse and even violence are applauded as necessary to protect “real America.” Essential features of democracy, such as the peaceful transfer of power, compromise with political opponents and defining America as an idea and not a racial or religious identity, have fallen by the wayside.

Sadly, the degradation of democracy has intensified in the wake of Joe Biden’s victory. The doctrinal elevation of the “big lie," the increase in violent rhetoric and the effort to rig elections all reflect a heightened desperation by the MAGA crowd. This has driven the GOP to new lows (e.g., vaccine refusal to “own the libs,” virtually all House Republicans defending an animation depicting the murder of a congresswoman).’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/28/trump-idolatry-has-undermined-religious-faith/

We should be more concerned about the degradation of democracy than any damage inflicted on religion.

Bullshit. The church isn't threatened by Trump. The real enemy of Christianity is Marxianity: The evangelical deep state and their useful idiots are merging Christianity with cultural Marxism, social justice, illegal immigration, interfaith dialog, feminism, and collectivism.

The Marxist playbook has two fundamental strategies to undermine capitalism and Christianity. One strategy is to co-opt Christianity from within, corrupt it, and render it no longer an opponent of Marxism, but a willing participant in fulfilling the goal of the Marxists. The second strategy is to create a coalition of victims and create “offenses” in order to “prove” the oppressors of the coalition of victims are Christians and capitalists. By doing so, Christianity and capitalism can be effectively demonized as the source of all suffering and oppression. The key to this information operation is to hide Marxist ideologies under masking terms that are given credibility through the use of twisted scriptures as well as revisionist history and the elimination of truth, reason, logic, and context. They must also enlist religious useful idiots and compromised “bridgers” that aid in merging the religious left and the religious right.

The proponents of Marxianity are co-opting Christianity and enlisting "useful idiots” to turn churches into community organizations for social justice, pastors into community organizers, the Great Commission into the “Great Group Consensus” and recast the Biblical Jesus into some kind of a modern-day social justice warrior.

One of the original re-definers of the gospel was a man by the name of Walter Rauschenbusch, a Fabian socialist and father of the social gospel movement. He said, “The only power that can make socialism succeed, if it is to be established, is religion. It cannot work in an irreligious country.”

 

[daveman]

 

[Uncensored2008]

‘Much has been written about White evangelicals’ central role in the fraying of democracy. More attention, however, should be paid to the damage the political movement has inflicted on religion itself.

The demographic — which remains in the throes of White grievance and an apocalyptic vision that postulates America (indeed “Western civilization”) is under attack from socialists, foreigners and secularists — forms the core of the MAGA movement. Many have rejected the sanctity of elections, the principle of inclusion and even objective reality.

The consequences have been dire for American politics. The siege mentality has morphed into an ends-justify-the-means style of politics in which lies, brutal discourse and even violence are applauded as necessary to protect “real America.” Essential features of democracy, such as the peaceful transfer of power, compromise with political opponents and defining America as an idea and not a racial or religious identity, have fallen by the wayside.

Sadly, the degradation of democracy has intensified in the wake of Joe Biden’s victory. The doctrinal elevation of the “big lie," the increase in violent rhetoric and the effort to rig elections all reflect a heightened desperation by the MAGA crowd. This has driven the GOP to new lows (e.g., vaccine refusal to “own the libs,” virtually all House Republicans defending an animation depicting the murder of a congresswoman).’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/28/trump-idolatry-has-undermined-religious-faith/

We should be more concerned about the degradation of democracy than any damage inflicted on religion.

More mindless hate from the fucktard Nazis,

 

[daveman]

"Trump idolatry has undermined religious faith"

Good thing it's not happening.

Oh, and if you leftists could stop projecting your propensity to worship human beings on normal people, that'd be great.

 

[Concerned American]

Bullshit. The church isn't threatened by Trump. The real enemy of Christianity is Marxianity: The evangelical deep state and their useful idiots are merging Christianity with cultural Marxism, social justice, illegal immigration, interfaith dialog, feminism, and collectivism.

The Marxist playbook has two fundamental strategies to undermine capitalism and Christianity. One strategy is to co-opt Christianity from within, corrupt it, and render it no longer an opponent of Marxism, but a willing participant in fulfilling the goal of the Marxists. The second strategy is to create a coalition of victims and create “offenses” in order to “prove” the oppressors of the coalition of victims are Christians and capitalists. By doing so, Christianity and capitalism can be effectively demonized as the source of all suffering and oppression. The key to this information operation is to hide Marxist ideologies under masking terms that are given credibility through the use of twisted scriptures as well as revisionist history and the elimination of truth, reason, logic, and context. They must also enlist religious useful idiots and compromised “bridgers” that aid in merging the religious left and the religious right.

The proponents of Marxianity are co-opting Christianity and enlisting "useful idiots” to turn churches into community organizations for social justice, pastors into community organizers, the Great Commission into the “Great Group Consensus” and recast the Biblical Jesus into some kind of a modern-day social justice warrior.

One of the original re-definers of the gospel was a man by the name of Walter Rauschenbusch, a Fabian socialist and father of the social gospel movement. He said, “The only power that can make socialism succeed, if it is to be established, is religion. It cannot work in an irreligious country.”

The democrat embracing of abortion, degenerate lifestyles, LGBTQ+, Trans and Bio/AI are a greater danger to religion than anything Trump could do.

 

[mudwhistle]

‘Much has been written about White evangelicals’ central role in the fraying of democracy. More attention, however, should be paid to the damage the political movement has inflicted on religion itself.

The demographic — which remains in the throes of White grievance and an apocalyptic vision that postulates America (indeed “Western civilization”) is under attack from socialists, foreigners and secularists — forms the core of the MAGA movement. Many have rejected the sanctity of elections, the principle of inclusion and even objective reality.

The consequences have been dire for American politics. The siege mentality has morphed into an ends-justify-the-means style of politics in which lies, brutal discourse and even violence are applauded as necessary to protect “real America.” Essential features of democracy, such as the peaceful transfer of power, compromise with political opponents and defining America as an idea and not a racial or religious identity, have fallen by the wayside.

Sadly, the degradation of democracy has intensified in the wake of Joe Biden’s victory. The doctrinal elevation of the “big lie," the increase in violent rhetoric and the effort to rig elections all reflect a heightened desperation by the MAGA crowd. This has driven the GOP to new lows (e.g., vaccine refusal to “own the libs,” virtually all House Republicans defending an animation depicting the murder of a congresswoman).’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/28/trump-idolatry-has-undermined-religious-faith/

We should be more concerned about the degradation of democracy than any damage inflicted on religion.

This thread is pure projection.
I keep remembering the way you people kissed Obama's ass for the last 14 years and your claims just ring hollow.

 

[daveman]

This thread is pure projection.
I keep remembering the way you people kissed Obama's ass for the last 14 years and your claims just ring hollow.

IS BARACK OBAMA THE MESSIAH?​

"... A LIGHT WILL SHINE THROUGH THAT WINDOW, A BEAM OF LIGHT WILL COME DOWN UPON YOU, YOU WILL EXPERIENCE AN EPIPHANY ... AND YOU WILL SUDDENLY REALIZE THAT YOU MUST GO TO THE POLLS AND VOTE FOR OBAMA" - BARACK OBAMA LEBANON, NEW HAMPSHIRE.
JANUARY 7, 2008.

OBAMA CONVERSION STORIES
"We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
-- Michelle Obama
"Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus."
-- Politiken (Danish newspaper)
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."
--Lawrence Carter
"Many even see in Obama a messiah-like figure, a great soul, and some affectionately call him Mahatma Obama."
-- Dinesh Sharma
"We just like to say his name. We are considering taking it as a mantra."
-- Chicago] Sun-Times
"A Lightworker -- An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being"
-- Mark Morford
"What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history"
-- Jesse Jackson, Jr.
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
-- Barack Obama
"Does it not feel as if some special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?"
-- Daily Kos
"He communicates God-like energy..."
-- Steve Davis (Charleston, SC)
"Not just an ordinary human being but indeed an Advanced Soul"
-- Commentator @ Chicago Sun Times
"I'll do whatever he says to do. I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear."
-- Halle Berry
"A quantum leap in American consciousness"
-- Deepak Chopra
"He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century."
-- Gary Hart
"Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings . . . He's our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence."
-- Eve Konstantine
"This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament." | "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
-- Chris Matthews
"[Obama is ] creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom . . . [He is] the man for this time."
-- Toni Morrison
"Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. . . . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . . . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves."
-- Ezra Klein
"Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind."
-- Gerald Campbell
"We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."
-- Oprah Winfrey
“I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered. . . . I know that that was God’s plan."
-- Bill Rush

 

[progressive hunter]

IS BARACK OBAMA THE MESSIAH?​

"... A LIGHT WILL SHINE THROUGH THAT WINDOW, A BEAM OF LIGHT WILL COME DOWN UPON YOU, YOU WILL EXPERIENCE AN EPIPHANY ... AND YOU WILL SUDDENLY REALIZE THAT YOU MUST GO TO THE POLLS AND VOTE FOR OBAMA" - BARACK OBAMA LEBANON, NEW HAMPSHIRE.
JANUARY 7, 2008.

OBAMA CONVERSION STORIES
"We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
-- Michelle Obama
"Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus."
-- Politiken (Danish newspaper)
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."
--Lawrence Carter
"Many even see in Obama a messiah-like figure, a great soul, and some affectionately call him Mahatma Obama."
-- Dinesh Sharma
"We just like to say his name. We are considering taking it as a mantra."
-- Chicago] Sun-Times
"A Lightworker -- An Attuned Being with Powerful Luminosity and High-Vibration Integrity who will actually help usher in a New Way of Being"
-- Mark Morford
"What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history"
-- Jesse Jackson, Jr.
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
-- Barack Obama
"Does it not feel as if some special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?"
-- Daily Kos
"He communicates God-like energy..."
-- Steve Davis (Charleston, SC)
"Not just an ordinary human being but indeed an Advanced Soul"
-- Commentator @ Chicago Sun Times
"I'll do whatever he says to do. I'll collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear."
-- Halle Berry
"A quantum leap in American consciousness"
-- Deepak Chopra
"He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians. . . . the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century."
-- Gary Hart
"Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings . . . He's our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence."
-- Eve Konstantine
"This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament." | "I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
-- Chris Matthews
"[Obama is ] creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom . . . [He is] the man for this time."
-- Toni Morrison
"Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. . . . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . . . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves."
-- Ezra Klein
"Obama has the capacity to summon heroic forces from the spiritual depths of ordinary citizens and to unleash therefrom a symphonic chorus of unique creative acts whose common purpose is to tame the soul and alleviate the great challenges facing mankind."
-- Gerald Campbell
"We're here to evolve to a higher plane . . . he is an evolved leader . . . [he] has an ear for eloquence and a Tongue dipped in the Unvarnished Truth."
-- Oprah Winfrey
“I would characterize the Senate race as being a race where Obama was, let’s say, blessed and highly favored. That’s not routine. There’s something else going on. I think that Obama, his election to the Senate, was divinely ordered. . . . I know that that was God’s plan."
-- Bill Rush

lets not forget the kids singing obama songs,,

 

[daveman]

lets not forget the kids singing obama songs,,

Leftists do love their little tin gods.

And they get angry when normal people don't join their cult.

 

[Oddball]

‘Much has been written about White evangelicals’ central role in the fraying of democracy. More attention, however, should be paid to the damage the political movement has inflicted on religion itself.

The demographic — which remains in the throes of White grievance and an apocalyptic vision that postulates America (indeed “Western civilization”) is under attack from socialists, foreigners and secularists — forms the core of the MAGA movement. Many have rejected the sanctity of elections, the principle of inclusion and even objective reality.

The consequences have been dire for American politics. The siege mentality has morphed into an ends-justify-the-means style of politics in which lies, brutal discourse and even violence are applauded as necessary to protect “real America.” Essential features of democracy, such as the peaceful transfer of power, compromise with political opponents and defining America as an idea and not a racial or religious identity, have fallen by the wayside.

Sadly, the degradation of democracy has intensified in the wake of Joe Biden’s victory. The doctrinal elevation of the “big lie," the increase in violent rhetoric and the effort to rig elections all reflect a heightened desperation by the MAGA crowd. This has driven the GOP to new lows (e.g., vaccine refusal to “own the libs,” virtually all House Republicans defending an animation depicting the murder of a congresswoman).’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/28/trump-idolatry-has-undermined-religious-faith/

We should be more concerned about the degradation of democracy than any damage inflicted on religion.

Can't think of nothing more cynical and disingenuous than an overbearing state worshiping Philistine, allegedly concerned about the status of anyone else's religion.

 

[toobfreak]

Bullshit. The church isn't threatened by Trump. The real enemy of Christianity is Marxianity

JG: When a Marxist atheist like Clayhead Jones wants to alert the world to the dangers of Trump to religion, he is really just trying desperately to gaslight the public--- what they really fear is our belief in Trump because ALL GOOD PEOPLE NEED TO DO to defeat these miscreant bums is to STOP DRINKING THE MSM PURPLE KOOLAID and just submit to and go along with their plan.

 

[Colin norris]

‘Much has been written about White evangelicals’ central role in the fraying of democracy. More attention, however, should be paid to the damage the political movement has inflicted on religion itself.

That's bullshit. Democracy us alive and well as the last election shows. Your problem is that trump lost and uou won't accept so now out comes the pathetic excuses.
I c a n recall trump grandstNdi g in front of a church holding a bible and all the godbotherers drooled over it as their God and saviour. He sucked them in to think he was religious. B

The demographic — which remains in the throes of White grievance and an apocalyptic vision that postulates America (indeed “Western civilization”) is under attack from socialists, foreigners and secularists — forms the core of the MAGA movement.

No it doesn't. The MAGA movement is a totally Republican. Don't blame outside influences because the movement failed.
The people got rid of that idiot because he was a failure. Admit it and move on.



Many have rejected the sanctity of elections, the principle of inclusion and even objective reality.

The reality of elections has never been more stark. There's nothing holy about election because you think it was stolen. It wasn't and you know it yet now you want to blame some moral decline because they turned him out. Fuck off. He is an idiot.

The consequences have been dire for American politics. The siege mentality has morphed into an ends-justify-the-means style of politics in which lies, brutal discourse and even violence are applauded as necessary to protect “real America.”


Essential features of democracy, such as the peaceful transfer of power, compromise with political opponents and defining America as an idea and not a racial or religious identity, have fallen by the wayside.

You can blame republicans for that. The capitol riots showed their true fascist colours. America is a country by name only. The whole place is a state of mind run by bigoted racist partisan brain dead loopies. Not a a hint of decency among them and that can be witnessed here every day.

Sadly, the degradation of democracy has intensified in the wake of Joe Biden’s victory.
Are you mad? That's exactly what democracy is. Just because you lost doesn't make the system degradated.
You expected to win and all the ridicule on Biden didn't work. Democracy 101 dickhead.


The doctrinal elevation of the “big lie," the increase in violent rhetoric and the effort to rig elections all reflect a heightened desperation by the MAGA crowd.
Where's this effort to rig elections? You've had 12 months to put up and had nothing. You're a lying fraud.

This has driven the GOP to new lows (e.g., vaccine refusal to “own the libs,” virtually all House Republicans defending an animation depicting the murder of a congresswoman).’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/28/trump-idolatry-has-undermined-religious-faith/

We should be more concerned about the degradation of democracy than any damage inflicted on religion.

Rubbish. You think the system is rigged because Lord trump got his arse kicked.
Out come the lame pathetic excuses as usual.
It's that filthy religion that grossly interferes with rational people. Anyone who believes in god is mentally challenged. Those who use their religion to chose a party are even madder. That is republicans to a tee.

Don't come here with your Democrat partisan take the on the election. Get some facts.

 

[daveman]

 

[BreezeWood]

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trump has no religion to idolerate - nor do christians, they are peas in the same political pod.

 

[daveman]

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trump has no religion to idolerate - nor do christians, they are peas in the same political pod.

It's hilarious how leftists believe Christians have to accept without question the grand pronouncements of people who hate their faith.

 

[BreezeWood]

It's hilarious how leftists believe Christians have to accept without question the grand pronouncements of people who hate their faith.

really ...

christians with their phony messiah, monotheistic religion have been persecuting and victimizing the innocent since the 4th century as well the other desert religions - only to complain when their crimes are exposed and their intent is made public for all to see.

the desert religions and trump are one in the same.

 

[daveman]

really ...

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christians with their phony messiah, monotheistic religion have been persecuting and victimizing the innocent since the 4th century as well the other desert religions - only to complain when their crimes are exposed and their intent is made public for all to see.

the desert religions and trump are one in the same.

So, I say something is hilarious -- and then you prove me right by doing what I was making fun of.

Brilliant!