Trump hit with criminal charges in New York, a first for a US ex-president -New York Times

[SweetSue92]

Trump’s indictment is a victory for democracy and the rule of law – every American should be proud that the United States has clearly demonstrated that no one is above the law, including former presidents.

You think crushing someone you don't like under the "law" = JUSTICE

But then, Leftists are usually idiots. If they could think better, they wouldn't be Leftists

 

[Stann]

Yikes!

Trump Indicted in New York: Donald Trump Is Indicted in New York (Published 2023)

Mr. Trump will be the first former president to face criminal charges. The precise charges are not yet known, but the case is focused on a hush-money payment to a porn star during his 2016 campaign.

www.nytimes.com

Unfortunately the news of finally bringing this man to justice is going to be met with total denial by his cult following. Remember to them he walks on water.

 

[SweetSue92]

Unfortunately the news of finally bringing this man to justice is going to be met with total denial by his cult following. Remember to them he walks on water.

Justice for what?

Hurting your feelings is not a crime

 

[g5000]

You should be grateful, shit for brains.. The alternative is much worse.

Remember, you were already exposed as a liar and a fraud 20 pages ago. You don't even have a stump to stand on.

You've proven to the whole world that you're just another lying leftard.

I tire of the leftard BS. I'm done here. Bye.

Look, kid. You're punching way outside your weight class.

I'm actually becoming concerned that you are so triggered you might go on a shooting spree. You are obviously in the age bracket of mass shooters.

I'm going to leave you alone now. Feel free to blubber on your own.

 

[basquebromance]

This tweet—and the indictment it’s praising—is a mockery of our justice system. Pelosi says Trump has a “right” to “prove [his] innocence.” That’s exactly BACKWARDS: Under our Constitution, you’re innocent until proven guilty. The indictment is frivolous & an abuse of power.

 

[Quasar44]

USA is a bigger banana republic than ——-

 

[g5000]

Attention MAGAGA Super Patriots! Florida multi-billionaire Donald J. Trump needs your Social Security nickels and dimes to Fight off this WITCH HUNT.

Dear Leader can't even afford to Buy big macs for his Legal team's strategy Meetings. Don't be a RINO. Send all your excess Cash to our bleegered President in this unpresidented time in our Nation's history!

CHINA gave drug Addict HUNTER BIDEN more than half a ton of crack Cocaine to bring COVID to America, and he is getting Off SCOTT FREE! Yet the BLACK district attorney of New York is indicting Donald J. Trump for paying his Taxes on time!

THIS IS THE GREATEST ASSAULT ON OUR COUNTRY SINCE THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR. THIS IS A DARK MONEY SNEAK ATTACK BY GEORGE SOROS TO TURN US INTO A BANANA REPUBLIC.

The Money you send for this legal Defense Fund won't end up in the Save America PAC, bleev me. Bleev me, folks. It will not end up in the pockets of Dear Leader's friends, that I can tell you.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[basquebromance]

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Quasar44]

NYC pig swine MF can indict a ham sandwich

 

[g5000]

The video starts with a crazed woman shouting at traffic.

"You should be ashamed of yourselves!"

Hmmm. She doesn't think a married man with a newborn infant who fucked a porn star and a Playboy model should be ashamed of himself?

How DO these people stand the stench of their own hypocrisy?

 

[g5000]

As we now know, Trump DID reimburse Cohen and then falsified his business records to hide the scheme.

 

[Stann]

Justice for what?

Hurting your feelings is not a crime

Lol, if that's all you see them you are a cult follower of trump. Everyone else knows better.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

While folks are talking abut the money Trump's real threat is money laundering and conspiracy charges.

By bringing in Pecker as the go between Trump changed what was a campaign finance violation into money laundering and conspiracy to commit money laundering and campaign finance charges.

I'm no lawyer but I'm given to understand that the conspiracy and money laundering counts are far more serious and the prosecution has testimony from two of the conspirators.

That will be tough to beat even when you DO pay your lawyers.

You are correct, you’re no lawyer.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[MisterBeale]

As we now know, Trump DID reimburse Cohen and then falsified his business records to hide the scheme.

And every other politician we have had, lies about, and falsifies records and shit. They are all frauds.

What the hell is your point? Other than the establishment has double standards, and is being politicized.

But our other pols? They are all yes men, owned by the folks that own this nation.

It is not a whole lot different than living in Russia or China. You either now toe the party line, or you are prosecuted, assassinated, or not allowed to play the game in the first place. The fact that you are gas-lighting the forum about this shit? Makes you look, terribly pathetic. Or terminally stoopid.

Even a far lefty can see what is plainly obvious. . . .

Chris Hedges: The Donald Trump Problem

Donald Trump is not being targeted for the misdemeanors and serious felonies he appears to have committed but for discrediting and undermining the entrenched power of the ruling duopoly. Make Me Great Again – by Mr. Fish. By Chris Hedges ScheerPost.com Donald Trump — facing four governmen

consortiumnews.com

"Donald Trump — facing four government-run investigations, three criminal and one civil, targeting himself and his business — is not being targeted because of his crimes. Nearly every serious crime he is accused of carrying out has been committed by his political rivals.

He is being targeted because he is deemed dangerous for his willingness, at least rhetorically, to reject the Washington Consensus regarding neoliberal free-market and free-trade policies, as well as the idea that the U.S. should oversee a global empire. He has not only belittled the ruling ideology, but urged his supporters to attack the apparatus that maintains the duopoly by declaring the 2020 election illegitimate.. . . .


<snip>

". . . Finally, New York Attorney General Letitia James is bringing a civil lawsuit alleging the Trump Organization lied about its assets in order to secure bank loans. If the attorney general’s lawsuit is successful, Trump and other members of his family may be barred from doing business in New York, including buying property there for five years.

Trump’s alleged offenses should be investigated. Though, the cases involving Daniels and the retention of classified documents seem relatively minor and similar to those committed by Trump’s political opponents.

Last year, Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign and the DNC agreed to pay a fine of $8,000 and $105,000 respectively, for mislabelling a $175,000 expenditure on opposition research, namely the long-discredited “Steele Dossier,” as “legal expenses.” The improper retention of classified documents has typically resulted in a slap on the wrist when other powerful politicians have been investigated. Clinton, for example, used private email servers instead of a government email account when she was secretary of state.

The F.B.I. concluded that she sent and received materials classified as top secret on her private server. Ultimately, F.B.I. director James Comey declined to prosecute her. Trump’s former vice president Mike Pence and Biden also had classified documents at their homes, though we are told this may have been “inadvertent.” The discovery of these classified documents, rather than triggering outrage in most of the media, initiated a conversation about “overclassification.”

Former C.I.A. director David Petraeus was given two years probation and a $100,000 fine after he admitted to providing highly classified “black books” that contained handwritten classified notes about official meetings, war strategy, intelligence capabilities and the names of covert officers to his lover, Paula Broadwell, who was also writing a fawning biography of Petraeus.

As was the case with Nixon, the most serious charges Trump may face involve his attack on the foundations of the two-party duopoly, especially undermining the peaceable transfer of power from one branch of the duopoly to the other. In Georgia, Trump could face very serious criminal charges with potentially lengthy sentences if convicted, likewise if the federal special prosecutor indicts Trump for unlawful interference in the 2020 election. We won’t know until any indictments are made public.

Yet, the most egregious of Trump’s actions while in office either received minimal media coverage, were downplayed or lauded as acts carried out in defense of democracy and the U.S.-led international order.

Why hasn’t Trump been criminally investigated for the act of war he committed against Iran and Iraq when he assassinated Iranian Major General Qassem Soleimani and nine other people with a drone strike in Baghdad airport? Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi condemned the strike and told his parliament that Trump lied in order to get Soleimani exposed in Iraq as part of peace talks between Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Iraq’s parliament passed a resolution demanding that all foreign troops leave the country, which the U.S. government proceeded to reject.

Why not prosecute or impeach Trump for pressuring his secretary of state to lie and say that Iran wasn’t complying with the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, known as the Iran nuclear deal? Trump ultimately fired him and resumed unilateral, devastating and illegal sanctions against Iran, in violation of international law and quite possibly domestic U.S. law.. . . . "

 

[Stann]

Haven'y you learned by now, fox news is not a credible news source, it's made-up news as entertainment for right wing nuts.

 

[Stann]

And every other politician we have had, lies about, and falsifies records and shit. They are all frauds. What the hell is your point? Other than the establishment has double standards, and is being politicized.

But our other pols? They are all yes men, owned by the folks that own this nation.

It is not a whole lot different than living in Russia or China. You either now toe the party line, or you are prosecuted, assassinate, or not allowed to play the game in the first place. The fact that you are gas-lighting the forum about this shit? Makes you look, terribly pathetic. Or terminally stoopid.

Even a far lefty can see what is plainly obvious. . . .

Chris Hedges: The Donald Trump Problem

Donald Trump is not being targeted for the misdemeanors and serious felonies he appears to have committed but for discrediting and undermining the entrenched power of the ruling duopoly. Make Me Great Again – by Mr. Fish. By Chris Hedges ScheerPost.com Donald Trump — facing four governmen

consortiumnews.com

"Donald Trump — facing four government-run investigations, three criminal and one civil, targeting himself and his business — is not being targeted because of his crimes. Nearly every serious crime he is accused of carrying out has been committed by his political rivals.

He is being targeted because he is deemed dangerous for his willingness, at least rhetorically, to reject the Washington Consensus regarding neoliberal free-market and free-trade policies, as well as the idea that the U.S. should oversee a global empire. He has not only belittled the ruling ideology, but urged his supporters to attack the apparatus that maintains the duopoly by declaring the 2020 election illegitimate.. . . .


<snip>

". . . Finally, New York Attorney General Letitia James is bringing a civil lawsuit alleging the Trump Organization lied about its assets in order to secure bank loans. If the attorney general’s lawsuit is successful, Trump and other members of his family may be barred from doing business in New York, including buying property there for five years.

Trump’s alleged offenses should be investigated. Though, the cases involving Daniels and the retention of classified documents seem relatively minor and similar to those committed by Trump’s political opponents.

Last year, Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign and the DNC agreed to pay a fine of $8,000 and $105,000 respectively, for mislabelling a $175,000 expenditure on opposition research, namely the long-discredited “Steele Dossier,” as “legal expenses.” The improper retention of classified documents has typically resulted in a slap on the wrist when other powerful politicians have been investigated. Clinton, for example, used private email servers instead of a government email account when she was secretary of state.

The F.B.I. concluded that she sent and received materials classified as top secret on her private server. Ultimately, F.B.I. director James Comey declined to prosecute her. Trump’s former vice president Mike Pence and Biden also had classified documents at their homes, though we are told this may have been “inadvertent.” The discovery of these classified documents, rather than triggering outrage in most of the media, initiated a conversation about “overclassification.”

Former C.I.A. director David Petraeus was given two years probation and a $100,000 fine after he admitted to providing highly classified “black books” that contained handwritten classified notes about official meetings, war strategy, intelligence capabilities and the names of covert officers to his lover, Paula Broadwell, who was also writing a fawning biography of Petraeus.

As was the case with Nixon, the most serious charges Trump may face involve his attack on the foundations of the two-party duopoly, especially undermining the peaceable transfer of power from one branch of the duopoly to the other. In Georgia, Trump could face very serious criminal charges with potentially lengthy sentences if convicted, likewise if the federal special prosecutor indicts Trump for unlawful interference in the 2020 election. We won’t know until any indictments are made public.

Yet, the most egregious of Trump’s actions while in office either received minimal media coverage, were downplayed or lauded as acts carried out in defense of democracy and the U.S.-led international order.

Why hasn’t Trump been criminally investigated for the act of war he committed against Iran and Iraq when he assassinated Iranian Major General Qassem Soleimani and nine other people with a drone strike in Baghdad airport? Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi condemned the strike and told his parliament that Trump lied in order to get Soleimani exposed in Iraq as part of peace talks between Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia. Iraq’s parliament passed a resolution demanding that all foreign troops leave the country, which the U.S. government proceeded to reject.

Why not prosecute or impeach Trump for pressuring his secretary of state to lie and say that Iran wasn’t complying with the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, known as the Iran nuclear deal? Trump ultimately fired him and resumed unilateral, devastating and illegal sanctions against Iran, in violation of international law and quite possibly domestic U.S. law.. . . . "

Simply put, trump took it to a whole new criminal level.