Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

[Dante]

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[Dante]

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"​

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

Judge refuses to dismiss Trump’s defamation suit against ABC News and George Stephanopoulos over rape claim​

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/24/media/trump-lawsuit-abc-george-stephanopoulos-rape-claim/index.html

This should come up at the debate.

 

[el midgetron]

The debates isn’t really where you would have an expert provide testimony on the various types of penetration….

 

[el midgetron]

The real problem is no one believes anything any more unless it aligns with their political views. After 8 years of bogus accusations against Trump and myself as a supporter, an accusation about an assault that took place twenty five years earlier doesn’t sound like anything but the political attack machine that has been churning out the same noise for years.

It’s also noted that these allegation are always taken more seriously when they are leveled against a Republican. Biden also has a woman who has accused him of digital penetration and has done so for years. But like usual, the allegations against Democrats are waved off and dismissed. That’s apparently a lot of Russian disinformation out there.

 

[Dante]

The debates isn’t really where you would have an expert provide testimony on the various types of penetration….

Who said anything about that. Just bring up his lawsuit where he is arguing "My digital penetration is not considered rape -- in NY"

 

[surada]

The real problem is no one believes anything any more unless it aligns with their political views. After 8 years of bogus accusations against Trump and myself as a supporter, an accusation about an assault that took place twenty five years earlier doesn’t sound like anything but the political attack machine that has been churning out the same noise for years.

It’s also noted that these allegation are always taken more seriously when they are leveled against a Republican. Biden also has a woman who has accused him of digital penetration and has done so for years. But like usual, the allegations against Democrats are waved off and dismissed. That’s apparently a lot of Russian disinformation out there.

Russia doesn't have a thing to do with it. Let Trump speak He'll tell you what he is.

Trump says he's "chosen"..pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony and sloth, which are contrary to the seven capital virtues.

 

[Meathead]

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"​

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

Judge refuses to dismiss Trump’s defamation suit against ABC News and George Stephanopoulos over rape claim​

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/24/media/trump-lawsuit-abc-george-stephanopoulos-rape-claim/index.html

I am sure we all defer to you on matters of penile penetration given your experience of being penetrated.

 

[Dante]

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"​

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

Judge refuses to dismiss Trump’s defamation suit against ABC News and George Stephanopoulos over rape claim​

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/24/media/trump-lawsuit-abc-george-stephanopoulos-rape-claim/index.html

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

 

[el midgetron]

Who said anything about that. Just bring up his lawsuit where he is arguing "My digital penetration is not considered rape -- in NY"

Debating Kamala would be like cross examinating a penetration expert.

 

[el midgetron]

Russia doesn't have a thing to do with it. Let Trump speak He'll tell you what he is.

Trump says he's "chosen"..pride, greed, wrath, envy, lust, gluttony and sloth, which are contrary to the seven capital virtues.

And you just want to murder puppies.

 

[Dante]

Debating Kamala would be like cross examinating a penetration expert.

The Prosecutor vs the Sexual predator/Rapist Convicted felon

 

[el midgetron]

The Prosecutor vs the Sexual predator/Rapist Convicted felon

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You would if he was black.

 

[Dante]

You would if he was black.

please, go back to the White Supremacist website

 

[el midgetron]

please, go back to the White Supremacist website

Before Kamala was the nominee, law enforcement was “racists” and “fascists” and should be “defunded”. But now that the DNC has given you new marching orders, suddenly being a prosecutor is really cool.

The political left spent a year burning down cities across the US over a “felon”. Billions in damages, 25 people dead and now shamelessly you expect us to believe your manufactured criticism? Just like you smear us as “white Supremacists” and then expect us to take you seriously.

 

[el midgetron]

 

[Dante]

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"​

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

Judge refuses to dismiss Trump’s defamation suit against ABC News and George Stephanopoulos over rape claim​

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/24/media/trump-lawsuit-abc-george-stephanopoulos-rape-claim/index.html

some things need repeating...

This keeps coming up. Some posters here are clueless and relentless in denying and trying to obscure the facts.

 

[Dante]

Kamala Harris ought to bring up

"penile penetration vs digital penetration"​

during a debate.

Looking for updates on this case

 

[surada]

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

In a sexual assault case in May of last year, a jury found Mr. Trump had “sexually abused” E Jean Carroll. That jury found that Mr. Trump had not “raped” Ms. Carroll. Why? Because under New York state law, "rape is defined as penile penetration whereas the jury found that he had digitally penetrated her."

Yet,
In a later legal challenge, the federal judge presiding over the Carroll sexual assault case, Lewis Kaplan, concluded that the jury’s finding that she had failed to prove Trump had raped her under New York’s definition did not mean she failed to prove “rape” as many people understood it. He said the jury’s verdict had established that Trump “raped” Carroll, “albeit digitally rather than with his penis”.

Trump Lawsuit Against ABC Argues New York Penal Law "penile penetration vs digital penetration"

What a thing for a former president to defend.

 

[surada]

A Federal Judge Has Gone to Great Lengths to Make Clear Trump Really Did Rape E. Jean Carroll​

Why state-level legal minutiae impacts what words are used to describe the former president’s criminal conduct.​

A federal judge has gone to great lengths to make clear Trump really did rape E. Jean Carroll

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Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll​

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote.

He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”
The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”

Trump is going to defend the way he forcibly penetrated her? How classy. The family will be so proud.

 

[surada]

The debates isn’t really where you would have an expert provide testimony on the various types of penetration….

What are you suggesting?