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Trump himself and half of the House republicans who wanted to refuse to certify Biden’s win in 2020, voted by mail in that very election

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Prove it liar.
Prove it?

For absentee voting, you have to request a ballot and verify with a signature.

Junk-mail voting has none of that and is LESS reliable than an internet poll. Cheating shit stains can simply mail in a shit ton of fraudulent votes with no verification.
 

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Absentee ballots are not the same as mass-mailed ballots.
Are you saying they voted using unrequested ballots that just appeared in their mail?
What the fuck difference does that make? Either way, this info is verified using the same data. Either way, there is no evidence of rampant voter fraud of any kind. Trump is also quoted as saying he wants to end early voting of any kind.
 

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Is there any doubt anymore of just how hypocritical and laughable Trump and other republicans can be?

“Trump also engaged in this apparent hypocrisy, voting by mail in at least two primaries in 2020.Trump later voted early in person in the 2020 general election. Trump has aggressively pushed to severely curtail early and absentee voting with the ultimate goal of requiring Americans to vote solely on election day.

“At least half of the 139 House lawmakers who objected to certifying at least one of the states Joe Biden won voted either early or absentee, the Times found. Another 18% voted on election day and the Times was unable to find data for another 32% of lawmakers. The Times based its data on publicly available information about voting.”

So what?
 

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And yet you can’t explain how I’m wrong.
Sure I can. It's obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together. That's why I don't need to waste my time proving it toa moron.
 

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Is there any doubt anymore of just how hypocritical and laughable Trump and other republicans can be?

“Trump also engaged in this apparent hypocrisy, voting by mail in at least two primaries in 2020.Trump later voted early in person in the 2020 general election. Trump has aggressively pushed to severely curtail early and absentee voting with the ultimate goal of requiring Americans to vote solely on election day.

“At least half of the 139 House lawmakers who objected to certifying at least one of the states Joe Biden won voted either early or absentee, the Times found. Another 18% voted on election day and the Times was unable to find data for another 32% of lawmakers. The Times based its data on publicly available information about voting.”

I don't think most Republicans are totally against voting by mail. They just don't want to do it the same way democrats want to do it.

First, we should not be mailing out any ballots willy nilly to every registered voter, only to those who request mail in ballots. We don't need a bunch of ballots floating around for voters who don't actually plan on voting.

Second, as with in person voting, we need a way to make sure that only registered voters are voting, such as with an ID or other proof.

Third, we need to make sure that the person voting is the one mailing the ballot back or putting it in the drop box. Others should not be allowed to mail ballots that aren't theirs and we need a system in place that only that person can mail their one vote, not more than one vote, IE no ballot harvesting. Any ballots not from the voter themself should not be counted and legal charges may be necessary.

Fourth, state laws should be followed, which didn't always happen in 2020. Some states disregarded their very own laws when it came to mail in voting or counting the votes, which allowed claims that the election was stolen.

Fifth, all mail in votes should be received by election day. If the mail in ballots get there after election day, then tough shit, you should have either mailed them earlier or voted in person.

Sixth, when it comes to senior homes or other such places, if someone is helping the voters with their ballots, it should be someone who is totally impartial. We don't need a bunch of activist democrats (or republicans) helping seniors vote.


Seventh, which I am personally adding to the list and it isn't really talked about much, early voting should be eliminated unless you can prove a valid reason why you can't vote at a later time, such as service personnel being shipped off. for one example. Voting is an important responsibility and you could have a last minute change of heart so, if you have already voted, it is not possible to have a change of heart anymore. Early voting is mostly for the partisan and biased and I personally think it should not be allowed.
 
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I don't think most Republicans are totally against voting by mail. They just don't want to do it the same way democrats want to do it.

First, we should not be mailing out any ballots willy nilly to every registered voter, only to those who request mail in ballots. We don't need a bunch of ballots floating around for voters who don't actually plan on voting.

Second, as with in person voting, we need a way to make sure that only registered voters are voting, such as with an ID or other proof.

Third, we need to make sure that the person voting is the one mailing the ballot back or putting it in the drop box. Others should not be allowed to mail ballots that aren't theirs and we need a system in place that only that person can mail their one vote, not more than one vote, IE no ballot harvesting. Any ballots not from the voter themself should not be counted and legal charges may be necessary.

Fourth, state laws should be followed, which didn't always happen in 2020. Some states disregarded their very own laws when it came to mail in voting or counting the votes, which allowed claims that the election was stolen.

Fifth, all mail in votes should be received by election day. If the mail in ballots get there after election day, then tough shit, you should have either mailed them earlier or voted in person.

Sixth, when it comes to senior homes or other such places, if someone is helping the voters with their ballots, it should be someone who is totally impartial. We don't need a bunch of activist democrats (or republicans) helping seniors vote.


Seventh, which I am personally adding to the list and it isn't really talked about much, early voting should be eliminated unless you can prove a valid reason why you can't vote at a later time, such as service personnel being shipped off. for one example. Voting is an important responsibility and you could have a last minute change of heart so, if you have already voted, it is not possible to have a change of heart anymore. Early voting is mostly for the partisan and biased and I personally think it should not be allowed.
Lol absolutely none of this matters if the reality is that voter fraud of any kind is statistically very rare.
 

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Lol absolutely none of this matters if the reality is that voter fraud of any kind is statistically very rare.
I was responding to a post which claimed Republicans are against mail in voting and I responded that that is technically not true. Most Republicans are for responsible mail in voting.
 
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I was responding to a post which claimed Republicans are against mail in voting and I responded that that is technically not true. Most Republicans are for responsible mail in voting.
That is such fucking bullshit. You’re just conveniently coming up with a spin to defend their blatant hypocrisy. You’re just coming up with a fabricated rationale that desperately tries to defend it.
 

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That is such fucking bullshit. You’re just conveniently coming up with a spin to defend their blatant hypocrisy. You’re just coming up with a fabricated rationale that desperately tries to defend it.
You are coming up with bullshit to defend voting fraud.
 
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Prove it?

For absentee voting, you have to request a ballot and verify with a signature.

Junk-mail voting has none of that and is LESS reliable than an internet poll. Cheating shit stains can simply mail in a shit ton of fraudulent votes with no verification.
If Trump never said he voted absentee you morons would not be defending it right now. You would be calling it fraudulent just like the other forms. You can’t think for yourselves. You just mindlessly defend anything Trumptard says.

Too bad for you no voting type of any kind is rampant with fraud.
 
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YES IT FUCKING IS, lying leftard shitbag.
Lol um okay then prove it. What are you waiting for? Surely you would have a source of info in mind
 

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If Trump never said he voted absentee you morons would not be defending it right now. You would be calling it fraudulent just like the other forms. You can’t think for yourselves. You just mindlessly defend anything Trumptard says.

Too bad for you no voting type of any kind is rampant with fraud.
That's all you have is hypotheticals about the orange buffoon.
 
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Lol um okay then prove it. What are you waiting for? Surely you would have a source of info in mind
Dude - you are FUCKING IGNORANT.

Probably deliberately so.

Counties in Michigan with more votes than registered voters.

Nursing homes all over Wisconsin with 100% voting.

Secretaries of State telling their election commissions to disregard voter signatures.

It's a LONG list
 

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