Trump gets another trade deal with China done.

[Zincwarrior]

Why do Dem lawmakers employ China spies?

You did not answer the question.

 

[Delldude]

Why are we trading with China?

Bipartisan efforts to vendor out our manufacturing base ala EPA restrictions and greed.

 

[sealybobo]

Bingo..... you've unwittingly revealed the crux of the issue.



Not how it works.

Then explain.

Because if Trump adds 20% tariff, that country is going to charge you. Add it to the cost of the product you want to buy from them.

So then you have to go find an American version of that product. Good luck. None exist. So you're just stuck paying more.

I had to charge a customer last month $1500 tariff. It was the last line item on the quote. The **** if that's not how it works. Wake up goober.

 

[Delldude]

Then explain.

Sell US manufactured items then.

 

[sealybobo]

Sell US manufactured items then.

Sell US manufactured items then.

In some cases, we will, and that's great. I agree with that. Even if it means a couple bucks more. Better to buy American.

Several prominent mattress manufacturers are based in the USA. Top companies include Tempur Sealy International, Serta Simmons Bedding, and Saatva. Other notable US-based manufacturers include Sleep Number, Purple, Brooklyn Bedding, Helix, and Tuft & Needle. Many of these companies emphasize domestic manufacturing and sourcing of materials.

But a lot of times, there is no American product. And my partner is in the UK. Why you ******* with my company? Why did he have to fight with EVERYONE? And are we even getting ripped off by the rest of the world? I don't think so.

 

[Delldude]

And are we even getting ripped off by the rest of the world? I don't think so.

Bingo you've unwittingly hit it on the head again.

 

[sealybobo]

Bingo you've unwittingly hit it on the head again.

That we aren't really getting ripped off by the rest of the world? I already knew that. You see my friend, when free trade happened, every country in the world protected their vital industries. Whatever industries are important to their economies, they didn't allow cheaper foreign products to come in. That would be stupid. That would destroy their economies.

I don't know if Daddy Bush protected manufacturing, but I know Clinton put in environmental and labor protections into NAFTA before he signed it. And I KNOW Bush 2 removed those protections. And during the Bush years, you cheered him on. You BASHED the workers for being unionized, lazy, pieces of shit, the same uneducated blue collar workers Trump said he's going to MAGA for, are the same workers Bush and YOU cheered as their high paying union jobs went to Mexico. And you loved the cheap shit we were getting from China.

All I know is that it's more complicated than that and you aren't seeing the entire picture.

The impact of trade deals on the U.S. is multifaceted and depends on various factors, including the specific terms of the agreements, the economic conditions of the countries involved, and the ability of U.S. businesses to compete in global markets. While some argue that the U.S. has been taken advantage of, others maintain that trade agreements have generally been beneficial. It's important to consider both the potential downsides and the potential benefits when evaluating the impact of trade deals on the U.S. economy.

 

[Delldude]

That we aren't really getting ripped off by the rest of the world? I already knew that.

Then what's with all the harping?

You see my friend, when free trade happened, every country in the world protected their vital industries.

That definition kills your notion of free trade.

Whatever industries are important to their economies, they didn't allow cheaper foreign products to come in. That would be stupid. That would destroy their economies.

Gee Whiz...... that's exactly what happened with our trade with China.

You BASHED the workers for being unionized, lazy, pieces of shit, the same uneducated blue collar workers Trump said he's going to MAGA for, are the same workers Bush and YOU cheered as their high paying union jobs went to Mexico.

Be kinda hard you idiot, as I was a union representative before, during and after NAFTA.

And you loved the cheap shit we were getting from China

Not entirely, as you said, it was cheap shit in many cases.

 

[Nostra]

3 deals? Looks like we're getting strung along. Meanwhile those countries are making deals with Russia and China rather than do business with Trump. They know TACO

How many trade deals did Tater get done in his first few months…….hell, his entire regime?

 

[Nostra]

Why are we trading with China?

So you can afford furnishings for your van down by the river, Simp.

 

[sealybobo]

Then what's with all the harping?


That definition kills your notion of free trade.


Gee Whiz...... that's exactly what happened with our trade with China.

Be kinda hard you idiot, as I was a union representative before, during and after NAFTA.


Not entirely, as you said, it was cheap shit in many cases.

Perhaps they put a lot of thought into why they tariff our stuff and there are reasons for those tariffs. No one should give in to Trump's demands for across the board ZERO tariffs on everything. Not even the USA should agree to that. Some things should be tariffed.

Do you think Trump put any thought into who or how much he tariffed?

These bizarre locations have been hit by Trump’s tariffs — including an uninhabited island​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/03/5-bizarre-locations-hit-by-tariffs-including-an-uninhabited-island.html

Perhaps this is all for show to impress you but ultimately, you're going to pay more dummy.

 

[sealybobo]

How many trade deals did Tater get done in his first few months…….hell, his entire regime?

Well Trump already re negotiated NAFTA in his first term right? And Biden didn't touch it. Left it alone.

So Trump doesn't like his own trade deal?

And Trump already had a trade war with China too in 2017. Lost it. He must not have won because he's fighting Trade World War 2 now.

 

[justoffal]

More winning for America, and Americans. That means more losing for Democrats.

China issues update after Trump reveals trade deal

The Chinese Ministry of Commerce addressed the reports of a U.S.-China deal.

www.newsweek.com

The CCP is pissed at Xi....He hasn't been seen for over 3 weeks now

Jo

 

[sealybobo]

How many trade deals did Tater get done in his first few months…….hell, his entire regime?

Dude, imagine if I sent 2 of my customers a letter like this:

25% increase in price for you go into effect on Aug. 1.

If you try to retaliate, there will be an additional 25% increase.

We have decided to move forward with you, but only with more balance.

“Therefore, we invite you to participate in the extraordinary business opportunities, the Number One Market in the World, by far.

“Thank you for your attention to this matter!”

If I were Japan and Korea I'd tell him to **** off. I'd start looking for new partners. And I'd definitely jack up my prices. Lower the tariffs but jack up the prices.

 

[sealybobo]

The CCP is pissed at Xi....He hasn't been seen for over 3 weeks now

Jo

I think you all know that ultimately tariffs get passed on to the consumer and the tariffs raised just go into a slush fund that Trump is going to SQUANDER away. Look at how pissed off Elon was that Trump took all the savings Elon found and still is managing to add $3 trillion dollars to the debt through the BBB.

 

[Delldude]

Do you think Trump put any thought into who or how much he tariffed?

HAL says:

Australia, the Reasoning:

The administration stated that all Australian territories were included in the tariff list, and they did not want any part of the world to be used to avoid tariffs.

No one should give in to Trump's demands for across the board ZERO tariffs on everything.

Negotiating move to get various countries talking. He wants tarrifs to make money for the country, reduce or eliminate trade deficits.

Perhaps this is all for show to impress you but ultimately, you're going to pay more dummy.

As you've implied regarding yourself, much like you, I have money out my ass.
No need to buy cheap shit anymore.

 

[Delldude]

I think you all know that ultimately tariffs get passed on to the consumer and the tariffs raised just go into a slush fund that Trump is going to SQUANDER away. Look at how pissed off Elon was that Trump took all the savings Elon found and still is managing to add $3 trillion dollars to the debt through the BBB.

I'm pretty that slush fund is our debt.

 

[sealybobo]

HAL says:

Australia, the Reasoning:

The administration stated that all Australian territories were included in the tariff list, and they did not want any part of the world to be used to avoid tariffs.


Negotiating move to get various countries talking. He wants tarrifs to make money for the country, reduce or eliminate trade deficits.


As you've implied regarding yourself, much like you, I have money out my ass.
No need to buy cheap shit anymore.

Just let me know when Trump has made America greater for any of us. You, me or the uneducated blue collar workers he promised to

Lower gas
Lower grocery prices
Lower rent

In fact, my home went down in value. So did yours. People certainly aren't buying homes like they did last summer. My condos on a lake were going like hotcakes. Trump can blame the Feds all he wants. The buck stops with him. Quit begging them to lower interest rates when they don't think that's a good idea right now.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm pretty that slush fund is our debt.

I'm just saying. I heard that tariffs will bring in a lot of money for the federal government. And that's good because Trump's about to spend a shit load on a wall and the military. Maybe even a war

 

[Delldude]

Just let me know when Trump has made America greater for any of us.

Lower grocery prices

Grocery prices fell in April for the first time this year, marking the largest monthly decline since September 2020.

Five of the six major grocery store group indexes dropped, led by a 12.7% decrease in egg prices, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Tuesday. The index for meats, poultry, fish, and eggs declined 1.6% in April after recent increases. Nonalcoholic beverages was the only category that saw an increase, rising 0.7%.

Grocery prices experience biggest drop in almost 5 years

Food at-home costs fell 0.4% in April

www.supermarketnews.com

Lower gas

Gas prices saw their steepest decline in nearly two months last week. As of June 30th, the price of regular and premium gas were each down 5 cents from the previous week. According to GasBuddy.com, California has the highest average price for regular at $4.55 and Oklahoma has the cheapest at $2.67.

Currently, the national average price for a gallon of regular gasoline stands at $3.16 with premium gasoline averaging $4.08 per gallon. One year ago, regular gas was priced at $3.48 per gallon, while premium gas was at $4.34 per gallon.

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/07/01/gas-prices-see-steepest-fall-in-2-months

Lower rent

Up and down depending where. Should help by taking the government sponsored illegal aliens out of the mix.

In fact, my home went down in value.

Home values drop due to age over time.

People certainly aren't buying homes like they did last summer.

Shortages, teetering on a housing market collapse again.

Trump can blame the Feds all he wants. The buck stops with him.

No, it stops with the interest rates the fed posts.

I heard that tariffs will bring in a lot of money for the federal government. And that's good because Trump's about to spend a shit load on a wall and the military.

They borrowed for the monies in the Big Beautiful Bill.

Maybe even a war

Great way to kick an economy into high gear.