Trump files, jury sees classified files or Trump wins

[elektra]

If Trump complied why did they need a Search Warrant to secure the classified documents?

They did not need a search a warrant, that is the entire point, just cause the issued one dont mean they needed it, just cause they arrested and charged trump, does not make him guilty, and just cause he may be found guilty, does not mean he is guilty

The police, fbi, prosecutors and judges have all been 100% wrong in the past, and not by accident, but because bad people seek power

 

[WorldWatcher]

One would think Democrats would learn a lesson when it was their master and GOD Biden caught with classified documents.

I have no problem charging Pence now and Biden once he leaves office.

(Congress can impeach him now, then charge him once removed.)

WW

 

[MagicMike]

With or without your tin foil hat?

Without, of course.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Mostly republicans.............

So?

I'll give you republicans for people that actually have/had clearances and been required to handled national security information. .............

WW

 

[Seymour Flops]

If Trump complied why did they need a Search Warrant to secure the classified documents?

They did not “need” a search warrant any more than they “needed” that raid. They “wanted” a raid to make the news. it was nothing more than a swatting that they legalize by getting some easily-led federal magistrate to sign off on a search warrant,

Humiliating Trump in an early attempt to force him out of the presidential race was clearly the goal.

Didn’t work, because Trump has more substance than they do.

 

[MagicMike]

I’ve seen that claim made over and over, but never supported.

What were Trump’s exact words when he “lied to investigators? “

Please provide the quote with a link. I’m sure you would have that or you would not make such a serious accusation.

Always amazing how these MAGAts who obviously have internet access are incapable of looking these things up themselves.
It's almost like you all intentionally avoid REAL information.

The conspiracy charges deal with Trump’s alleged attempts to hide documents from his lawyer or federal investigators. The false statement charges stem from Trump causing his lawyer to tell the FBI that no more classified documents were at Mar-a-Lago — but then the FBI later found more than 100 documents during an August 2022 search.

Indictment takeaways: Trump's alleged schemes and lies to keep secret papers

The federal indictment against Donald Trump accuses the former president of illegally hoarding classified documents at his Florida estate after leaving the White House in 2021, and then scheming and lying to thwart government efforts to recover them. Justice Department prosecutors brought 37...

apnews.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

he police, fbi, prosecutors and judges have all been 100% wrong in the past, and not by accident, but because bad people seek power

They did not “need” a search warrant any more than they “needed” that raid. They “wanted” a raid to make the news. it was nothing more than a swatting that they legalize by getting some easily-led federal magistrate to sign off on a search warrant,

Humiliating Trump in an early attempt to force him out of the presidential race was clearly the goal.

I am sure these brilliant legal arguments will be compelling for Trump's defense.

 

[Curried Goats]

Do you know what “projection” means in this arena, bingo?
It seems not.

I do. I just don't see how you're connecting your claim to anything.

 

[MagicMike]

I am sure these brilliant legal arguments will be compelling for Trump's defense.

Well, it's a little better than their standard "WHAAAAH!"

 

[Rawley]

I guess you should blame Trump for that.

It's Biden's (and obama's) DOJ that are being selective

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

Liberals made it a BIG DEAL about the classified documents (Except when RETARD BIDEN was told his brain was too old to stand trial for his document abuse) but now its okay for the jurors to see all the documents ??????? and likely some will take photos and post to their X account.

 

[Rawley]

If Trump complied why did they need a Search Warrant to secure the classified documents?

LOL Because they wanted to put him in prison and prevent him from running again.

 

[Rawley]

Former President Donald Trump was warned by one of his lawyers in May of last year that the FBI could search his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida if he didn't comply with a grand jury subpoena

Third time you are skipping to the middle of the story. Tells me you clearly not interested in an honest discussion.

Have a blessed day.

 

[Rawley]

They did not “need” a search warrant any more than they “needed” that raid. They “wanted” a raid to make the news. it was nothing more than a swatting that they legalize by getting some easily-led federal magistrate to sign off on a search warrant,

Humiliating Trump in an early attempt to force him out of the presidential race was clearly the goal.

Didn’t work, because Trump has more substance than they do.

And it's backfired and Biden's lawfare scheme is actually propelling Trump into the WH.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The conspiracy charges deal with Trump’s alleged attempts to hide documents from his lawyer or federal investigators. The false statement charges stem from Trump causing his lawyer to tell the FBI that no more classified documents were at Mar-a-Lago — but then the FBI later found more than 100 documents during an August 2022 search.

Indictment takeaways: Trump's alleged schemes and lies to keep secret papers

The federal indictment against Donald Trump accuses the former president of illegally hoarding classified documents at his Florida estate after leaving the White House in 2021, and then scheming and lying to thwart government efforts to recover them. Justice Department prosecutors brought 37...

apnews.com

Hm. So the statement “Trump lied to investigators” is itself a lie.

What were Trump‘s exact words when he told his lawyers to tell the FBI that no more classified documents or at Merrill Largo?

Didn’t the lawyer say they themselves searched for classified documents, and NOT that Trump told them so?

sorry, that’s a trick question. I know exactly what the lawyers said, wrote, and did. It’s good to have researched before you go telling everybody else why they’re wrong

Not too late though. You can do the same. Just google Christina Bob and Evan Corcoran, both lawyers for Trump.

You will find that Corcoran told Christina Bobb to sign a document certifying that a diligent search been made, and no more classified documents were at Mar-a-Lago. Christina Bob did sign, but only after adding a caveat “To the best of my knowledge,” or some such.

Anyway, none of that is Trump lying to investigators, nor Trump “causing” his lawyers to lie to investigators.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It's Biden's (and obama's) DOJ that are being selective

I distinctly remember Trump being President before Biden.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Hm. So the statement “Trump lied to investigators” is itself a lie.

Not what the indictment says. We'll see what happens in court.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Not what the indictment says. We'll see what happens in court.

The indictments lied.

Really? You haven’t figured that out yet?

 

[Catsnmeters]

I’ve seen that claim made over and over, but never supported.

What were Trump’s exact words when he “lied to investigators? “

Please provide the quote with a link. I’m sure you would have that or you would not make such a serious accusation.

Sorry. I was operating under the premise that you were at least a little familiar with the indictments considering you are discussing them with much vigor in this thread.

Regardless, see page 40. (Count 37)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump-Nauta_23-80101.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjQqLDZkIGFAxU0AjQIHWXnBhYQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1OV-gaH_4FtiYYSdFyFVw8

 

[Catsnmeters]

Other than the obvious, I don’t know. The media is not in the habit of reporting the arguments that Trump’s lawyers make. They just like to say “Trump contends” or some such, and then explain why they think Trump is wrong.

Presenting both sides of the argument risk them losing control of the narrative.

So present your side. If Trump's defense used this arguement it should be readily available; if they didn't then it won't be available and you will evidently blame the media.