Trump EO Handed Another Loss

If a single parent in the US is incarcerated for a crime, is the parent not separated from the child? Of course they are. I see no difference from an illegal criminal immigrant. Separate the "citizen" child and deport the parent. If the parent wants to take the child with them, then the parent's citizenship should attach. Otherwise, the child becomes a ward of the state and is entered into the system as an American abandoned orphan. It may be harsh, but that is on the criminal parent.
Most Americans are too compassionate for that kind of harsh. Much better to join 99% of the rest of the world and do away with Jus Soli. That alone will do away with 99% of the 'anchor babies' as the mothers won't have any reason to risk the dangerous journey to have their babies here and the problem is solved.
 
I double dog dare the SCOTUS to allow the end of birthright citizenship. I will personally file an Amicus Brief. If they attempt that damn historical revisionism, originalist intent bullshit like they did with the second amendment it will be the end of them. All of them impeached, every damn last one.
Your inflated sense of self-importance is hilarious.
Winston takes on the SCOTUS: the case that no one ever cared about.
 
"Anchor baby" is an accepted term for the fact that the government cannot deport a citizen and the parent(s) came here to have the child because we don't have the heart to make her/them go home without that child. So the child effectively 'anchored' the illegal migrant and they know that which is why they came here in the first place to have the child.

Do away with Jus Soli and no more anchor baby. As soon as it is safe for the mother and child to travel, send them home. Of course without the 'anchor baby' culture, she likely would never ever have come here to have the baby in the first place.
The US citizen baby doesn’t anchor anything. Families are separated that way all the time.
 
"President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday"

Maybe Trump should get the message and defend the Constitution.

It's the right thing to do.

You just don't get it. All Trump's losses are short term. Haven't you figured that out yet? In fact, your court challenges actually speed up the process.
 
If a single parent in the US is incarcerated for a crime, is the parent not separated from the child? Of course they are. I see no difference from an illegal criminal immigrant. Separate the "citizen" child and deport the parent. If the parent wants to take the child with them, then the parent's citizenship should attach. Otherwise, the child becomes a ward of the state and is entered into the system as an American abandoned orphan. It may be harsh, but that is on the criminal parent.
More often, the US citizen child is left with a legal resident relative of the family. Sometimes that relative is a “relative.”
 
That isn't my experience. Show your evidence if you have any though.
I personally know more than a few families that were separated in just that way. It’s not a secret. Especially among the immigrant community.
 
I personally know more than a few families that were separated in just that way. It’s not a secret. Especially among the immigrant community.
It happens usually when the parent commits a crime and is deported for that. Otherwise I don't know what you have experienced but, again, that is not my experience where I live. Certainly a deported parent can take his/her 'citizen' child with him/her. Nobody would stop that. So if there is separation, it is the choice of the parent and not our laws/government.
 
It happens usually when the parent commits a crime and is deported for that. Otherwise I don't know what you have experienced but, again, that is not my experience where I live. Certainly a deported parent can take his/her 'citizen' child with him/her. Nobody would stop that. So if there is separation, it is the choice of the parent and not our laws/government.
I know a few families where the parents were deported after a traffic stop. Being in the country illegally is illegal. Of course the parents can take their child with them if they want to. No one is arguing otherwise.
 
These daily wishful thinking threads are getting tedious.
Trump is two moves ahead of the democrats and five moves ahead of the useful idiots here ar USMB.
I think you're doing Trump a disservice---he is at least twenty moves ahead of anyone on this board.
 
President Trump has approximately 70% approval rating on immigration.

Poor leftists.
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That landslide overrides the Constitution. We must throw off our blind faith in 18th Century ideas. That era's political science is as backward as its medical science.
 
That is just total ignorance. Sure, you are not going to get into the debate over the 14th amendment in elementary school history. And you are just going to touch the 14th in high school, even an AP US History class.


But there it is, "original intent". Senator Jacob Howard, of Michigan no less. ERRR. After the Civil War, Michigan, North Carolina, yeah. The amendment means exactly what it says. If you are born here, no matter your race or the status of your parents, you are a citizen. He clarifies that, firmly.

This whole "subject to the jurisdiction" is five hundred year old diplomatic speech because it is the children of foreign diplomats, diplomats that are not "subject to the jurisdiction". And it was native Americans, born on reservations, their parents were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. They achieved their citizenship status through an act of Congress, decades after the 14th.

I mean this question was asked, and answered, way back in the beginning. To claim some other meaning to that jurisdiction clause is historical revisionism in the highest degree. The only possible argument is that those Hispanics crossing the border are an invasion force, laughable on its face. Besides, hell, ain't that what we all are? Outside Native Americans, didn't we all "invade" this continent? The Pilgrims and Puritans, the Irish, the Germans, the Swiss. Yeah, the Swiss. French, Spanish, Jewish, Muslim, they all "invaded".

And this birthright citizenship has been tried in the courts, many times. Jus Solis, in the purest form, has been the long standing understanding. At the time, it was groundbreaking. Today, not so much, dozens of countries have adopted it. Any attempt to eliminate birthright citizenship is a direct attack against the Constitution, and against the very foundation of this country.
No one needs a powerful position to say that people can't get a legal right through illegal means. Since when is logic only valid depending on the status of whoever points it out?
 
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