Trump EO Handed Another Loss

[The Sage of Main Street]

When is your cut off. Asians were the first of what YOU call NATIVE. They invaded too. LOL. REEEEEEEEEE.

Native Siberians

These presently pampered bandit gangs were fugitives from the justice of civilized Asia. A hideout is not a homeland.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I've not moved anything. When this gets overturned on appeal, then the clown show on the left will go up the chain until it hits the SCOTUS. At that point, it will be game over for the left.

Trump Must Act NOW, Not Wait for an Unreliable SCROTUS

The smug fantasy that the President's appointees to SCROTUs will follow his agenda has been disproved many times over. To take one example that will make the believers squirm, three out of the four "Just Us"es appointed by pro-life Nixon voted pro-choice on Roe.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Blah blah blah. Trump's EO is getting stomped on. Deal with it.

Gavels Can't Stomp. They Can't Only Make Noise.

"Suddenly there came a tapping, as of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door."

How about "nevermore" with the tyranny of judicial review?

 

[Nobody911]

"President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday"

Maybe Trump should get the message and defend the Constitution.

It's the right thing to do.

Trump handed another defeat as third judge smacks down executive order

President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday.A federal judge in New Hampshire issued an injunction halting Trump’s executive order — the third time it’s been hindered.Trump’s order sought to stop children of undocumented...

www.rawstory.com

It's going to be a very long drama in American courts! lol.

Birthright citizenship in the United States is enshrined in the 14th Amendment, which states that all persons born or naturalized in the U.S. are citizens. This provision was established in the aftermath of the Civil War to ensure that former slaves and their descendants were granted citizenship and equal protection under the law.

Whether it is viewed as a "loophole" can depend on one's perspective. Critics argue that it incentivizes illegal immigration, as individuals may seek to have children in the U.S. to secure citizenship for them. They claim this creates a strain on social services and undermines immigration laws.

On the other hand, Defenders of birthright citizenship argue that it is a fundamental principle of equality and justice. They assert that it prevents discrimination based on parentage and reinforces the idea that citizenship is a birthright, not a privilege dependent on circumstances.

Birthright citizenship aligns the U.S. with other countries that also recognize jus soli (right of the soil), a principle that fosters inclusivity. Ultimately, the classification of birthright citizenship as a loophole or not hinges on broader views about immigration, citizenship rights, and the values embedded in the Constitution. Legal challenges and discussions around this topic continue, reflecting the complexity and evolving nature of immigration policy in the U.S.

Ending birthright citizenship in the United States would require significant legal and constitutional changes. Here’s a list of possible approaches:

1. Amend the Constitution: The most direct way would be to propose an amendment to the Constitution. This would require a two-thirds majority in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or a constitutional convention called by two-thirds of the states, followed by ratification from three-fourths of the states.

2. Legislative Action: Congress could pass legislation clarifying the interpretation of the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause, though this would likely face legal challenges in court.

3. Judicial Interpretation: The Supreme Court could reinterpret the 14th Amendment to limit birthright citizenship. A case would need to reach the court challenging the current interpretation.

4. State-level Initiatives: Some states may attempt to enact laws that deny birth certificates to children of undocumented immigrants, which could prompt legal battles and potentially reach the Supreme Court.

5. Public Support and Advocacy: Building public support for ending birthright citizenship through advocacy, campaigns, and education could influence lawmakers and generate momentum for legal changes.

6. Bipartisan Agreement: Gaining bipartisan support for a change in policy could facilitate an amendment or legislative action.

Each of these approaches faces significant legal, political, and social challenges, making the prospect of ending birthright citizenship complex and contentious.

 

[TemplarKormac]

"President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday"

Maybe Trump should get the message and defend the Constitution.

It's the right thing to do.

Trump handed another defeat as third judge smacks down executive order

President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday.A federal judge in New Hampshire issued an injunction halting Trump’s executive order — the third time it’s been hindered.Trump’s order sought to stop children of undocumented...

www.rawstory.com

You lack the ability to comprehend the greater strategy here.

He WANTS it to go to the Supreme Court.

However, you are the last person, here, or in any universe, who can demand anyone defend the Constitution.

 

[okfine]

You lack the ability to comprehend the greater strategy here.

He WANTS it to go to the Supreme Court.

And you are the last person, here, or in any universe, who can demand anyone defend the Constitution.

He got his fat ass handed to him. 3 times. TFB, for dear leader.

 

[BackAgain]

"President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday"

Maybe Trump should get the message and defend the Constitution.

It's the right thing to do.

Trump handed another defeat as third judge smacks down executive order

President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday.A federal judge in New Hampshire issued an injunction halting Trump’s executive order — the third time it’s been hindered.Trump’s order sought to stop children of undocumented...

www.rawstory.com

No big deal. We all knew that, however it got launched, the effort to remedy the long time mistake in believing that the 14th Amendment somehow compels “birthright” citizenship for the kids born here to an illegal alien mom (or mom and dad) would have to run the judicial gauntlet.

 

[TemplarKormac]

He got his fat ass handed to him. 3 times. TFB, for dear leader.

Biden only had to have his ass handed to him once on Nov. 5.

Even then he couldn't discern it from his face.

Just like you.

 

[TemplarKormac]

 

[BackAgain]

He got his fat ass handed to him. 3 times. TFB, for dear leader.

No. He got overly hyperbolic liberal jurists to temporarily slow down the effort.

Again, simply not a big deal. Perfectly expected.

And the proper interpretation of the 14rh Amendment WILL eventually prevail thanks to President Trump.

You really don’t grasp this at all.

 

[Robert W]

"President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday"

Maybe Trump should get the message and defend the Constitution.

It's the right thing to do.

Trump handed another defeat as third judge smacks down executive order

President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday.A federal judge in New Hampshire issued an injunction halting Trump’s executive order — the third time it’s been hindered.Trump’s order sought to stop children of undocumented...

www.rawstory.com

The constitution does not say to illegals, drop a baby here and it is a citizen. The Constitution addressed already resident slaves.

 

[SeaMajor7]

All is going to plan...

 

[Concerned American]

He got his fat ass handed to him. 3 times. TFB, for dear leader.

Enjoy your little tantrum. I am sure your head will explode when the SCOTUS rules. LMAO.

 

[ThisIsMe]

That is just total ignorance. Sure, you are not going to get into the debate over the 14th amendment in elementary school history. And you are just going to touch the 14th in high school, even an AP US History class.

The Congressional Globe: Containing the Debates and Proceedings of the First Session of the Thirty-Ninth Congress

The Congressional Globe contains the records for sessions of the U.S. Congress including summaries of proceedings, letters, speeches, and some legislation for the Senate and House of Representatives.

digital.library.unt.edu

But there it is, "original intent". Senator Jacob Howard, of Michigan no less. ERRR. After the Civil War, Michigan, North Carolina, yeah. The amendment means exactly what it says. If you are born here, no matter your race or the status of your parents, you are a citizen. He clarifies that, firmly.

This whole "subject to the jurisdiction" is five hundred year old diplomatic speech because it is the children of foreign diplomats, diplomats that are not "subject to the jurisdiction". And it was native Americans, born on reservations, their parents were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. They achieved their citizenship status through an act of Congress, decades after the 14th.

I mean this question was asked, and answered, way back in the beginning. To claim some other meaning to that jurisdiction clause is historical revisionism in the highest degree. The only possible argument is that those Hispanics crossing the border are an invasion force, laughable on its face. Besides, hell, ain't that what we all are? Outside Native Americans, didn't we all "invade" this continent? The Pilgrims and Puritans, the Irish, the Germans, the Swiss. Yeah, the Swiss. French, Spanish, Jewish, Muslim, they all "invaded".

And this birthright citizenship has been tried in the courts, many times. Jus Solis, in the purest form, has been the long standing understanding. At the time, it was groundbreaking. Today, not so much, dozens of countries have adopted it. Any attempt to eliminate birthright citizenship is a direct attack against the Constitution, and against the very foundation of this country.

I'm not sure what that passage you posted has to do with the topic. I skimmed through it to find anything about BRC and did not see if. If you have a specific passage, please quote it.


I also invite you to read:

Birthright Citizenship: A Response to My Critics - Claremont Review of Books

claremontreviewofbooks.com

Which has excerpts from the senators debating thr 14A.

 

[lennypartiv]

"President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday"

Maybe Trump should get the message and defend the Constitution.

It's the right thing to do.

Trump handed another defeat as third judge smacks down executive order

President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday.A federal judge in New Hampshire issued an injunction halting Trump’s executive order — the third time it’s been hindered.Trump’s order sought to stop children of undocumented...

www.rawstory.com

Trump is doing what we elected him to do. These judges need to back off.

 

[Robert W]

Trump is doing what we elected him to do. These judges need to back off.

You talk about unelected rulers, what the hell are judges if not precisely that?