Trump EO Handed Another Loss

[okfine]

It is ONLY your opinion that he has had a loss. A judge temporary puts a hold on something that is going to happen.

It would be a loss if the judiciary -- meaning the SCOTUS -- says he cannot do it.

Hah Hah Ha! Apples and oranges. Moving the goal posts. I've never heard that before... Hah Hah Ha!

 

[Nostra]

"shithole country"

You're off topic Nostra, so why does Trump want to include Canada as a US State, because it's a shithole?

Maybe Trump should pay attention to the US and quit turning people against each other.

Yes, shithole country.

Next?

 

[Darkwind]

Hah Hah Ha! Apples and oranges. Moving the goal posts. I've never heard that before... Hah Hah Ha!

I've not moved anything. When this gets overturned on appeal, then the clown show on the left will go up the chain until it hits the SCOTUS. At that point, it will be game over for the left.

 

[Winston]

I'm sure the Supreme Court is cowering in fear of ......of....... who were you again?

Winston. Figure it out.

But the Roe case was an example. I mean I really dropped the ball on that one. But after Heller it didn't seem to matter, those Amicus Briefs. The justices create their own history. Second amendment is based on a right of self-defense. Are you flippin kidding me. Can you say Lexington and Concord? Just exactly where were the British going?

But Roe reversal, original intent? You got to be kidding me. When the Constitution was signed abortion was not uncommon. A chemical abortion, through the taking of herbs, a recipe known by midwifes, who were almost exclusively Native American or Negro. It was completely accepted as long as it happened before the "quickening", which is the time the mother can feel the baby moving. Let's go with 15 weeks to stay contemporary.

But this time, birthright citizenship, oh hell no. This is where it stops.

 

[okfine]

I've not moved anything. When this gets overturned on appeal, then the clown show on the left will go up the chain until it hits the SCOTUS. At that point, it will be game over for the left.

Blah blah blah. Trump's EO is getting stomped on. Deal with it.

 

[Foxfyre]

There is no such thing as an "anchor baby." If all this stimulates a discussion about immigration law and clarifies things like the parents having NO altered right to be here illegally just because their offspring is a citizen, so much the better. Enforce those existing laws stringently.

"Anchor baby" is an accepted term for the fact that the government cannot deport a citizen and the parent(s) came here to have the child because we don't have the heart to make her/them go home without that child. So the child effectively 'anchored' the illegal migrant and they know that which is why they came here in the first place to have the child.

Do away with Jus Soli and no more anchor baby. As soon as it is safe for the mother and child to travel, send them home. Of course without the 'anchor baby' culture, she likely would never ever have come here to have the baby in the first place.

 

[Darkwind]

Blah blah blah. Trump's EO is getting stomped on. Deal with it.

If you say so.

 

[Unkotare]

... you are just going to touch the 14th in high school, even an AP US History class.

...

That's not true.

 

[Stann]

"President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday"

Maybe Trump should get the message and defend the Constitution.

It's the right thing to do.

Trump handed another defeat as third judge smacks down executive order

President Donald Trump’s controversial plan to end birthright citizenship was blocked in court for a third time Monday.A federal judge in New Hampshire issued an injunction halting Trump’s executive order — the third time it’s been hindered.Trump’s order sought to stop children of undocumented...

www.rawstory.com

As it should be.

 

[Concerned American]

"Anchor baby" is an accepted term for the fact that the government cannot deport a citizen and the parent(s) came here to have the child because we don't have the heart to make her/them go home without that child. So the child effectively 'anchored' the illegal migrant and they know that which is why they came here in the first place to have the child.

Do away with Jus Soli and no more anchor baby. As soon as it is safe for the mother and child to travel, send them home. Of course without the 'anchor baby' culture, she likely would never ever have come here to have the baby in the first place.

If a single parent in the US is incarcerated for a crime, is the parent not separated from the child? Of course they are. I see no difference from an illegal criminal immigrant. Separate the "citizen" child and deport the parent. If the parent wants to take the child with them, then the parent's citizenship should attach. Otherwise, the child becomes a ward of the state and is entered into the system as an American abandoned orphan. It may be harsh, but that is on the criminal parent.

 

[Winston]

Oooh, the nation is on pins and needles waiting for the Winston amicus brief. Fucking clown. Far more people were against ending roe and it didn’t mean jack shit. This would be a very popular ruling.

Twice now in this thread, court, popular. FUCK THAT. That is not what the courts are for, that is not why we have a government with a separation of powers. The courts are not supposed to be influenced by "popular". Matter of fact, they were specifically created to be UNPOPULAR. Lifetime tenure? I mean come on.

These justices, they are supposed to have balls. And some of these lower court justices, I mean look, appointed by Republicans, they got some balls. The SCOTUS, they ain't a damn one of them got balls. For real. It is a shit show, time it ends.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Twice now in this thread, court, popular. FUCK THAT. That is not what the courts are for, that is not why we have a government with a separation of powers. The courts are not supposed to be influenced by "popular". Matter of fact, they were specifically created to be UNPOPULAR. Lifetime tenure? I mean come on.

These justices, they are supposed to have balls. And some of these lower court justices, I mean look, appointed by Republicans, they got some balls. The SCOTUS, they ain't a damn one of them got balls. For real. It is a shit show, time it ends.

They had the balls to do the right thing with roe and you’re still crying over it. Now they can do it again with this ridiculous concept some woman can spend nine months pregnant in Mexico then roll over the line and squirt that kid out on our side and somehow that makes the kid a US citizen. That shit should have been put to an end 100 years ago.

 

[okfine]

They had the balls to do the right thing with roe and you’re still crying over it. Now they can do it again with this ridiculous concept some woman can spend nine months pregnant in Mexico then roll over the line and squirt that kid out on our side and somehow that makes the kid a US citizen. That shit should have been put to an end 100 years ago.

If it was a woman from, lets say, Russia or SLOVENIA. Would that bother you?

 

[MagicMike]

Choke on it

Polls show growing support for mass deportation as Trump threatens to use military

The president-elect has suggested a national emergency could be declared on the issue — but polling suggests while support for deportations has grown, the majority of voters still back a path to legal status

www.the-independent.com

 

[Dragonlady]

China and Russia need only be patient.
Half of Americans are so stupid they are more than willing to cut off their own noses to spite their own faces.

And it's not costing them a dime!!! The USA didn't stop buying Chinese imports the last time Trump levied tariffs on their imports. They didn't stop buying Canadian imports last time either. But every country Trump levied tariffs against, stopped buying American made/grown products.

American imports dropped by $9 billion while Canadian exports remained the same, the last time Trump imposed tariffs on Canada.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

If it was a woman from, lets say, Russia or SLOVENIA. Would that bother you?

Not a US citizen either is it you moron.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

If it was a woman from, lets say, Russia or SLOVENIA. Would that bother you?

Oh wait, you were shooting for some race thing weren’t you? LMAO! You fucking retards.

 

[okfine]

Oh wait, you were shooting for some race thing weren’t you? LMAO! You fucking retards.

Hah!

You stumbled like the fool you are.

 

[Orangecat]

Gee, then why does this poll say that only 45% of all Americans approve of what he's doing.

Americans support Trump’s birthright citizenship rollback, new poll reveals

Controversial executive order issued by Donald Trump at his inauguration aims to end birthright citizenship for children of migrants

www.independent.co.uk

Of course most American's aren't even aware that Trump's Border Patrol and ICE Raids have now completely filled all of the detainment facilities and both ICE and BP are now doing "catch and release", just like Biden.

Some migrants arrested in Trump’s immigration crackdown have been released back into U.S.

Space constraints and court orders have led ICE to release 461 migrants on monitoring programs after they’re arrested.

www.nbcnews.com

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www.axios.com

Televised ICE Raids are going well. White neighbours cursing out the ICE people, hardly any gang members or criminals arrested. A complete waste of government resources. Frightening immigrants, terrorizing their neighbours, and they've already run out of jail space and money.

Tom Holman has said he's rethinking putting these raids on TV. Why Tom???? Because people will see that it's all been a pack of lies, the shit you've been talking about????

Is it frustrating to be so involved in another country's politics and totally impotent to do anything about them besides whining like a bitch online?

 

[playtime]

i guess that makes baron safe.