Trump cries when called out for attacking women

[Correll]

Now you are crying like Donald, my friend, and none of that makes sense.

Women are going to figuratively crucify Donnie onto a cross of ballot boxes.

Nothing in your post addressed anything in my post, soooo, My point stands. REmember a while ago, when your big "Argument" was to challenge my manhood, with "beta male" comments? That is what Hillary is saying to her males supporters. Vote for me because I know how to keep you in line. And you know something else? Women don't like weak ***** dominated men. In effect Hillary is telling the women that Trump is an "Alpha". This is not going to play well.

Correll the beta male has spoken. He thinks we live in the time of "Father Knows Best". Beta males are afraid of confident women.

1. Calling me a Beta Male, Logical Fallacy of Ad hominem. Your argument is invalid.

2. "Father knows best", Logical Fallacy of Strawman. Your argument is invalid.

3. Beta Male again, accusation of being afraid, Logical Fallacy of Ad Hominem. Your argument is invalid.

My point stands.

HIllary is telling men and women that Trump is an Alpha male.

Men want to identify WITH Alpha Males and Women like Alpha Males.

you are nuts.

Logical Fallacy of Appeal to Ridicule. Your argument is invalid.

My points stand.


HIllary is telling men and women that Trump is an Alpha male.

Men want to identify WITH Alpha Males and Women like Alpha Males.

 

[Correll]

Not sure I take your meaning.

What did Newt's failed marriages have to do with Bill Clinton's sexual harassment case?

I am talking about impeaching Clinton for getting a BJ in the Whitehouse & the attempted tar & feathering he got from Newt Gingrich (who was cheating at the same time he wagged his stubby little sausage fingers) & forget about Hastert...

The powers that be LOVE to throw stones don't they?

The impeachment was for sexual harassment and the abuse of power in the coverup of that harassment.


Unless Newt was sexually harassing his staff AND abusing his power to cover it up, there is not glass houses/stones aspect.


THe White HOUse BJ, was only relevant to that case in that it established a pattern of behavior, AND he abused his power to cover it up and perjured himself.

ho hum. Unethical is unethical & the abuse of power was not a one way street.
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Ethics Scandal
Gingrich's accomplishments were not without controversy. His popularity began to decline amidst partial government shutdowns in 1995. Gingrich was widely blamed for the shutdowns, after he had refused to compromise with President Clinton on budget cuts.

Ethical considerations were at the heart of much criticism of the speaker. In 1995, he returned a $4.5 million book advance that the House Ethics Committee had questioned. Another ethics investigation arose about whether Gingrich had used tax-exempt donations to fund a college course he had taught while serving in Congress. Gingrich negotiated an agreement with the House Ethics Committee, and he payed $300,000 for the cost of the investigation. The House voted to reprimand him by a vote of 395 to 28. In 1997, Gingrich was narrowly re-elected.

Resignation
In 1998, a scandal broke that would have a big impact on Gingrich's career. Clinton was alleged to have lied before a federal grand jury about his extramarital affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Gingrich pushed for impeachment, and for Clinton's removal from office. Congressional hearings and a media frenzy created a backlash against Republicans, as many voters felt they had gone too far.

In the 1998 midterm elections, Republicans lost five seats to Democrats. The tides had turned against Gingrich, and even members of his own party were critical of the speaker's tactics and the image he projected of the Republican party. In November 1998, Gingrich stepped down as speaker of the House. In January 1999, he resigned his seat in Congress [...]

http://www.biography.com/people/newt-gingrich-9311969#post-speakership

Gingrich Ok'd Use Of Charity Funds
Foundation Chief Says House Speaker Approved Payment For Tv Shows
November 23, 1996|By MICHAEL KRANISH The Boston Globe
WASHINGTON — House Speaker Newt Gingrich personally approved using funds from a charity called the Abraham Lincoln Opportunity Foundation, which was set up to help the needy, to pay for a series of Gingrich television shows in the early 1990s, according to the foundation's former director.

The activities of the nonprofit foundation have come under scrutiny from a special counsel investigating possible tax and campaign law violations by Gingrich for the House ethics committee.

The charity, which solicited tax-deductible donations, spent more than $200,000 to produce television shows for Gingrich, who has described the cable broadcasts as a vehicle to recruit Republican activists.

In an interview this week, Howard "Bo" Callaway, the former director of the Abraham Lincoln Opportunity Foundation, said Gingrich approved using foundation funds for the TV series. [...]

Gingrich Ok'd Use Of Charity Funds

& this might be tribblehead's VP pick.

Your glass house comment claims that that Newt's affair is the same as Bill's sexual harassment.


"LOL. You mean like Newt Gingrich, who was boffing Calista, his own whore behind wife #2's back at the same time going after Clinton, who was being impeached?"



An affair is not the same as sexual harassment, nor lying under oath, nor abuse of power.


Thus, Trump's defense against the woman card, by using Bill and Hillary's enabling, is valid and should be effective.

Furthermore, your minimizing of sexual harassment, by equating it with a consensual affair, is quite sexist and misogynistic of you.

lol. right. I minimize nothing. but having blinders on is quite ignorant of y-o-u.

YOu slammed Newt for going after Bill, for sexual harassment, while he was having an affair.

In doing that you are equating a consensual affair with Sexual Harassment.

That is you minimizing sexual harassment.

That is seriously sexist and anti-women.

But in a libs mind, since they are libs, and thus "good people" they give themselves and each other a pass.

Different standards for different folks.

 

[JakeStarkey]

As I posted earlier in the other thread, the polls have HRC up by 13 points over Trump and climbing.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Telling the truth about Correll being a Beta Male destroys his ad hom fallacy claim.

"Father knows best" is an excellent defense against Correll's fallacy of straw man defense.

Correll lies when he interprets HRC's corrections of Trump's assholeness towards women as that of a woman hater.
Beta males like Correll luv them sum alpha male.

 

[Correll]

As I posted earlier in the other thread, the polls have HRC up by 13 points over Trump and climbing.

Actually the 13 number was a while ago. More recent polls show it much less. There are ever a couple that show Trump ahead.

 

[Correll]

Telling the truth about Correll being a Beta Male destroys his ad hom fallacy claim.

"Father knows best" is an excellent defense against Correll's fallacy of straw man defense.

Correll lies when he interprets HRC's corrections of Trump's assholeness towards women as that of a woman hater.
Beta males like Correll luv them sum alpha male.

1. You use it as an personal attack INSTEAD of addressing my points. THus is is a Logical Fallacy on your part. YOur argument is invalid.

2. Nothing I said, justifies your odd "Father knows best" claim. I challenge you to support it.

3. "I know how to deal with men who are off the reservation". That is sexist. On HIllary's part. That will turn off men and women.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The 13 point graph was about one week ago, and your word that it is going down is meaningless.

I never personally attack, but you do attack me all the time which I nobly withstand.

Yup your comments make you clearly a "father knows best" type of trump.

Do you know how to deal with men off the reservation? That is more than I want to know, but you go for it, my little beta male.

 

[Correll]

The 13 point graph was about one week ago, and your word that it is going down is meaningless.

I never personally attack, but you do attack me all the time which I nobly withstand.

Yup your comments make you clearly a "father knows best" type of trump.

Do you know how to deal with men off the reservation? That is more than I want to know, but you go for it, my little beta male.

1. No, it was more like 20 days ago. And more recent polls show it tightening up.

2. You personally attack me all the time. You operate as though your opinions are facts and then use that to justify calling me vile names. And then I respond in kind. Your belief that I should just take it, is rejected.

3. And yet, you fail to list any of those comments to support your claim. Are you going to pretend you already did, and tell me "not one more time" or some such bs?

4. Your dishonest twisting of my quoting of HIllary shows that you know you can't make your case honestly.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your lying is pathetic as if you were Yurt or bripat or Dale Smith.


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[JakeStarkey]

 

[Correll]

Nothing in your post supports your above claims.

Here is what I said.

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Spread
RCP Average 4/28 - 5/18 -- -- 45.8 42.7 Clinton +3.1
Rasmussen Reports 5/17 - 5/18 1000 LV 3.0 37 42 Trump +5
FOX News 5/14 - 5/17 1021 RV 3.0 42 45 Trump +3
CBS News/NY Times 5/13 - 5/17 1109 RV 3.0 47 41 Clinton +6
Gravis 5/10 - 5/10 1574 RV 2.5 48 46 Clinton +2
PPP (D) 5/6 - 5/9 1222 RV 3.2 47 41 Clinton +6
CNN/ORC 4/28 - 5/1 890 RV 3.5 54 41 Clinton +13


As you can see, your 13 number is back from 5/1

More recent polls show the trend is pro-Trump.

 

[Correll]

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What about men? Don't you care about what they have to say?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nothing in your post supports your above claims.

Here is what I said.

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Spread
RCP Average 4/28 - 5/18 -- -- 45.8 42.7 Clinton +3.1
Rasmussen Reports 5/17 - 5/18 1000 LV 3.0 37 42 Trump +5
FOX News 5/14 - 5/17 1021 RV 3.0 42 45 Trump +3
CBS News/NY Times 5/13 - 5/17 1109 RV 3.0 47 41 Clinton +6
Gravis 5/10 - 5/10 1574 RV 2.5 48 46 Clinton +2
PPP (D) 5/6 - 5/9 1222 RV 3.2 47 41 Clinton +6
CNN/ORC 4/28 - 5/1 890 RV 3.5 54 41 Clinton +13


As you can see, your 13 number is back from 5/1

More recent polls show the trend is pro-Trump.

That is a voting spread, buddy. I am talking about women and trump. Also I notice that you excluded the last CBS poll that has Clinton up 6%. To be nuanced you simply can't pick and choose.

 

[JakeStarkey]

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What about men? Don't you care about what they have to say?

I know what they say. White men are in the minority (a significant minority) and men of color are in a majority for Trump.

 

[Correll]

Nothing in your post supports your above claims.

Here is what I said.

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D) Trump (R) Spread
RCP Average 4/28 - 5/18 -- -- 45.8 42.7 Clinton +3.1
Rasmussen Reports 5/17 - 5/18 1000 LV 3.0 37 42 Trump +5
FOX News 5/14 - 5/17 1021 RV 3.0 42 45 Trump +3
CBS News/NY Times 5/13 - 5/17 1109 RV 3.0 47 41 Clinton +6
Gravis 5/10 - 5/10 1574 RV 2.5 48 46 Clinton +2
PPP (D) 5/6 - 5/9 1222 RV 3.2 47 41 Clinton +6
CNN/ORC 4/28 - 5/1 890 RV 3.5 54 41 Clinton +13


As you can see, your 13 number is back from 5/1

More recent polls show the trend is pro-Trump.

That is a voting spread, buddy. I am talking about women and trump. Also I notice that you excluded the last CBS poll that has Clinton up 6%. To be nuanced you simply can't pick and choose.

And 6 is a lot less than 13. The Trend is going the way I want it to, and we still have a long time to go.

 

[Correll]

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What about men? Don't you care about what they have to say?

I know what they say. White men are in the minority (a significant minority) and men of color are in a majority for Trump.

There are a lot more white men, then there are black men.

Yet, you dismiss white men.

You do know that HIllary can't afford to lose all white men, right?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The 6 is the total vote, not the women's vote, Correll. The 6 is there and growing because women by 13 points do not like Trump.

Hillary will keep 31 to 34% of white men, which is all she needs, easily, to win BIG with the other numbers she has now.

 

[Correll]

The 6 is the total vote, not the women's vote, Correll. The 6 is there and growing because women by 13 points do not like Trump.

Hillary will keep 31 to 34% of white men, which is all she needs, easily, to win BIG with the other numbers she has now.

6 is less than 13, the gap is shrinking because men and whites don't like HIllary.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You don't understand, do you. 13 is the women's vote and the 6 is the total vote. Millennials, and women, and blacks, and Hispanics have helped HRC weather the Trump storm, which now will only gust occasionally and finally whimper out. The far right has given us a candidate who cannot win, the Trump. In the meantime, a pox on both houses, so I suggest all vote for Gary Johnso.

 

[Dragonlady]

I post facts and Correll posts memes.

No wonder Trump is going to lose so badly: he and his followers just don't get it.

How is Hillary doing with the White VOte? YOU know the majority? THe largest single ethnic group?

You don't seem to care about them.

YOu think they haven't noticed?

She does just fine with white women. And women have been out voting men in recent presidential elections.

She is losing white women and as the General Campaign continues and more people pay more attention, she will lose them more.

She will lose the overall White Vote too, by a large margin. As all democrats have done since LBJ.

Why do you think that is?

Because you're lying. You think because you dislike Hillary, everyone else follows suit.

As the extent of the Republican smears and lies becomes clearer to the American public, people will be more and more turned off of the Republicans and their destructive rhetoric.