Trump considers EO to expedite nuclear power, is that even possible, or responsible?

[kyzr]

I'm generally a Trump supporter, but this is plain stupid. (if he does it)

Trump would basically be saying that 3 pregnant women can make a baby in 3-months.

Trump administration considers orders expediting nuclear plant construction, NYT reports

U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is considering several executive orders to expedite the construction of nuclear power plants, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing drafts it has reviewed.

www.yahoo.com

Trump administration considers orders expediting nuclear plant construction, NYT reports​

Nuclear power is not something you want to rush. This idea isn't even half-baked.

Finding suitable sites for many more nuke plants is tough, not even counting the NIMBY lawsuits.
Permitting can take 10-years
Construction can take 10-years
Fuel and waste are major issues
Running nuclear powerplants is not easy

Can Trump wave a magic wand? Making that much high quality specialty steel to fabricate reactors and the plants is other worldly.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'm generally a Trump supporter, but this is plain stupid. (if he does it)

Trump would basically be saying that 3 pregnant women can make a baby in 3-months.

Trump administration considers orders expediting nuclear plant construction, NYT reports

U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is considering several executive orders to expedite the construction of nuclear power plants, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing drafts it has reviewed.

www.yahoo.com

Trump administration considers orders expediting nuclear plant construction, NYT reports​

Nuclear power is not something you want to rush. This idea isn't even half-baked.

Finding suitable sites for many more nuke plants is tough, not even counting the NIMBY lawsuits.
Permitting can take 10-years
Construction can take 10-years
Fuel and waste are major issues
Running nuclear powerplants is not easy

Can Trump wave a magic wand? Making that much high quality specialty steel to fabricate reactors and the plants is other worldly.

The answer to all of these questions is "Why?"

When you find the answer, you will have your solution.

The only thing "half-baked" is you making these sill comments like you are high on drugs!

 

[The Duke]

I'm generally a Trump supporter, but this is plain stupid. (if he does it)

Trump would basically be saying that 3 pregnant women can make a baby in 3-months.

Trump administration considers orders expediting nuclear plant construction, NYT reports

U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is considering several executive orders to expedite the construction of nuclear power plants, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing drafts it has reviewed.

www.yahoo.com

Trump administration considers orders expediting nuclear plant construction, NYT reports​

Nuclear power is not something you want to rush. This idea isn't even half-baked.

Finding suitable sites for many more nuke plants is tough, not even counting the NIMBY lawsuits.
Permitting can take 10-years
Construction can take 10-years
Fuel and waste are major issues
Running nuclear powerplants is not easy

Can Trump wave a magic wand? Making that much high quality specialty steel to fabricate reactors and the plants is other worldly.

Well, modular nuclear is a thing. It's a good design.
It does not need to take that long. Small, modular, nuclear, compatible expansions and things.
The tech is here. Probably Trump learned about that by talking to the UK dude.
I already made my money on that when Europe got on it, but there might be another thing. Maybe.

 

[kyzr]

The answer to all of these questions is "Why?"
When you find the answer, you will have your solution.
The only thing "half-baked" is you making these silly comments like you are high on drugs!

The "why" is simple, so the US wins the AI war, since AI is apparently a power hog and Trump wants to double nuclear powerplant capacity.

I worked on the design and construction of several nuclear powerplants, we got tested for drugs.

Could Trump's EO supersede the Atomic Energy Act of 1954?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The "why" is simple, so the US wins the AI war, since AI is apparently a power hog and Trump wants to double nuclear powerplant capacity.

I worked on the design and construction of several nuclear powerplants, we got tested for drugs.

Could Trump's EO supersede the Atomic Energy Act of 1954?

I think he meant,
Why can permitting take 10 years?
Why can construction take 10 years?
Why are fuel and waste major issues?

 

[KarsaOrlong]

Supporting nuclear is intelligent. While I think Trump is an odious and despicable miscreant, I support expanding nuclear. Fusion is the future.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The "why" is simple, so the US wins the AI war, since AI is apparently a power hog and Trump wants to double nuclear powerplant capacity.

I worked on the design and construction of several nuclear powerplants, we got tested for drugs.

Could Trump's EO supersede the Atomic Energy Act of 1954?

You didn't answer the question, though you probably read it in your own demented way.

Why does it take so long to accomplish these steps? The Navy has safely operated reactors for decades with zero problems. They don't seem to have any issues with speed of development or the amount of steel required.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I'm generally a Trump supporter, but this is plain stupid. (if he does it)

Trump would basically be saying that 3 pregnant women can make a baby in 3-months.

Trump administration considers orders expediting nuclear plant construction, NYT reports

U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is considering several executive orders to expedite the construction of nuclear power plants, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing drafts it has reviewed.

www.yahoo.com

Trump administration considers orders expediting nuclear plant construction, NYT reports​

Nuclear power is not something you want to rush. This idea isn't even half-baked.

Finding suitable sites for many more nuke plants is tough, not even counting the NIMBY lawsuits.
Permitting can take 10-years
Construction can take 10-years
Fuel and waste are major issues
Running nuclear powerplants is not easy

Can Trump wave a magic wand? Making that much high quality specialty steel to fabricate reactors and the plants is other worldly.

So, the article really didn't say much. It was only like 1 paragraph; that I could see..

When he says expedite, couldn't that mean, to get the process started sooner, not necessarily accelerate the construction process?

 

[kyzr]

I think he meant,
Why can permitting take 10 years?
Why can construction take 10 years?
Why are fuel and waste major issues?

Those durations are "typical" for the large base-load nuclear powerplants, the smaller plants would probably be too small to double the nuclear capacity, currently at 19% of the total electrical capacity.

If you want to read up on the "history" of several typical nuke plants here are links to them:

Diablo Canyon Power Plant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Seabrook Station Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Crystal River Nuclear Plant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Perry Nuclear Generating Station - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Susquehanna Steam Electric Station - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You didn't answer the question, though you probably read it in your own demented way.
Why does it take so long to accomplish these steps? The Navy has safely operated reactors for decades with zero problems. They don't seem to have any issues with speed of development or the amount of steel required.

Sorry, I misinterpreted the "why".
The Navy probably didn't have to follow all of the various regulations that commercial powerplants have to follow. I'm not sure if Trump's EOs would supersede state regulations. Governor Cuomo shut down a nuke plant on a "whim".

Get ready for blackouts after Cuomo foolishly killed the Indian Point plant

The premature shutdown of the 2,069-megawatt nuclear plant perfectly encapsulates the governor’s green-energy madness.

nypost.com

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Those durations are "typical" for the large base-load nuclear powerplants, the smaller plants would probably be too small to double the nuclear capacity, currently at 19% of the total electrical capacity.

If you want to read up on the "history" of several typical nuke plants here are links to them:

Diablo Canyon Power Plant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Seabrook Station Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Crystal River Nuclear Plant - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Perry Nuclear Generating Station - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Susquehanna Steam Electric Station - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sorry, I misinterpreted the "why".
The Navy probably didn't have to follow all of the various regulations that commercial powerplants have to follow. I'm not sure if Trump's EOs would supersede state regulations. Governor Cuomo shut down a nuke plant on a "whim".

Get ready for blackouts after Cuomo foolishly killed the Indian Point plant

The premature shutdown of the 2,069-megawatt nuclear plant perfectly encapsulates the governor’s green-energy madness.

nypost.com

Those durations are "typical" for the large base-load nuclear powerplants

Why are they typical?
Why can't we approve a standard design and make permitting a year?

 

[kyzr]

So, the article really didn't say much. It was only like 1 paragraph; that I could see..
When he says expedite, couldn't that mean, to get the process started sooner, not necessarily accelerate the construction process?

True.
The article said Trump was considering EOs to expedite "construction", so that means all needed steps to get them built

 

[The Duke]

Supporting nuclear is intelligent. While I think Trump is an odious and despicable miscreant, I support expanding nuclear. Fusion is the future.

Okay, so I'm sure you have some examples of small modular fusion plants ready to ship?
Yeah, no, that's not an actual thing. It's a nice idea, but not an actual thing.

 

[kyzr]

Those durations are "typical" for the large base-load nuclear powerplants
Why are they typical?
Why can't we approve a standard design and make permitting a year?

Because the site conditions vary from site to site.

1. Seabrook had to withstand a 747 crash into it and a tidal wave
2. Diablo Canyon had to withstand a very severe earthquake
3. The others had very different design conditions
a. foundation designs and seismic responses
b. BWR or PWR (reactor designs)
c. many other design differences

PART 50—DOMESTIC LICENSING OF PRODUCTION AND UTILIZATION FACILITIES

PART 50—DOMESTIC LICENSING OF PRODUCTION AND UTILIZATION FACILITIES

www.nrc.gov

 

[The Duke]

Because the site conditions vary from site to site.

1. Seabrook had to withstand a 747 crash into it and a tidal wave
2. Diablo Canyon had to withstand a very severe earthquake
3. The others had very different design conditions
a. foundation designs and seismic responses
b. BWR or PWR (reactor designs)
c. many other design differences

PART 50—DOMESTIC LICENSING OF PRODUCTION AND UTILIZATION FACILITIES

PART 50—DOMESTIC LICENSING OF PRODUCTION AND UTILIZATION FACILITIES

www.nrc.gov

It should be small and adaptable enough to plug into just about anywhere. It's not a super-duper hard ask, really.

 

[kyzr]

It should be small and adaptable enough to plug into just about anywhere. It's not a super-duper hard ask, really.

Its not a refrigerator. Ever heard of Chernobyl?

They are not available in the US yet. Care to buy a Russian or Chinese plant?

Small modular reactor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As of 2024, only China and Russia have successfully built operational SMRs. There are more than 80 modular reactor designs under development in 19 countries. Russia has been operating a floating nuclear power plant Akademik Lomonosov, in Russia's Far East (Pevek), commercially since 2020.The floating plant is the first of its kind in the world. China's pebble-bed modular high-temperature gas-cooled reactor HTR-PM was connected to the grid in 2021

 

[The Duke]

Its not a refrigerator. Ever heard of Chernobyl?

They are not available in the US yet. Care to buy a Russian or Chinese plant?

Small modular reactor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As of 2024, only China and Russia have successfully built operational SMRs. There are more than 80 modular reactor designs under development in 19 countries. Russia has been operating a floating nuclear power plant Akademik Lomonosov, in Russia's Far East (Pevek), commercially since 2020.The floating plant is the first of its kind in the world. China's pebble-bed modular high-temperature gas-cooled reactor HTR-PM was connected to the grid in 2021

Are you Eastern European? Rolls Royce has patents on things that are already installed in Western Europe right now. Like I said, I made my money on this a while back.
And yes, I have heard of Chernobyl.
Know where Chernobyl is? The like freakin' northern 1/3 of Ukraine. That's where Chernobyl is.
It's all fucked around there. Putin made his soldiers go through it to invade from the north. That was a dick move.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Its not a refrigerator. Ever heard of Chernobyl?

Here's an idea, don't use stupid commie designs.
Don't build reactors with no containment structure inside
a pile of carbon.

 

[kyzr]

Here's an idea, don't use stupid commie designs.
Don't build reactors with no containment structure inside
a pile of carbon.

We don't use stupid commie designs, unless Trump writes that EO to do so.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We don't use stupid commie designs, unless Trump writes that EO to do so.

Then why bring up Chernobyl?

 

[kyzr]

Are you Eastern European? Rolls Royce has patents on things that are already installed in Western Europe right now. Like I said, I made my money on this a while back.

No I'm from PA. I might be wrong, but Trump would want the SMRs to be all American made.

Small modular reactors

Rolls-Royce SMR LTD was established to develop an affordable power plant that generates electricity using a small modular reactor.

www.rolls-royce.com

And yes, I have heard of Chernobyl.
Know where Chernobyl is? The like freakin' northern 1/3 of Ukraine. That's where Chernobyl is.
It's all fucked around there. Putin made his soldiers go through it to invade from the north. That was a dick move.

True.