Trump claims presidents can declassify documents ‘even by thinking about it

[Seymour Flops]

I stated how it was done, which is what you asked.

The rest is just your imagination.

I asked how you did it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

How does one make getting paid to have sex ethically legal?

By calling it porn instead of prostitution.

Our country does this sort of thing all the time.

That's how we make it legal, not ethically legal.

If having sex for money is unethical then having sex in front of a camera for money is at least as unethical. So a law with that loophole would make sex for money legal but not ethical.

Killing a human being other than self defense doesn't become ethical because a court rules that it is legal if it is the killers own baby.

But you know that. DNC or LP, you feel compelled to defend legalized baby killing.

 

[Seymour Flops]

then it seems to be a lot of imaginations.

you ever stop and think "wow, many people seem to have the same problem with me" and think it's you, not them? anyone worth a damn will take that to self-reflect and see if we're really who we think we are based on what we are saying and projecting.

i know you think im in attack mode, but you seem to think everyone is attacking you when they simply disagree with your position. i can disagree with your position and not attack you. in fact, it's preferred. you just won't ever seem to allow that. i disagree, so i worship trump.

yet if i said you disagreed with me on biden so you must worship him, you'd scoff at the idea and run off on some tirade.

i can fight for rights trump (and we all have) without even liking trump. in fact, in my mind that's how it's supposed to work. hating someone, even an awful lot, doesn't take away their rights. but it does seem to blind people to that fact while they run roughshod over those they hate and declare it fair and just based on whatever emotional tie they pull out at the time.

being wrong about your views doesn't make someone a liar. i also have found you very "round about" in your answers. in this thread for example you demanded i give a straight answer - should there be a process for declassifying documents.

yes.

that was all i said. i didn't "however" it, i didn't "but here we have" it. yes. there should be. the question is, do we have one? was trump saying that's how he did it or there is no real process and even thinking about it COULD do it?

from what i can tell, it's door #2 alex, but you refuse to give him that leeway and want to dance around saying STUPID TRUMP because it seems to make you happy to do so. when countered with *the fact* that trump didn't say he did it this way, you simply cry TRUMP WORSHIPER!

there is simply zero middle ground here from you.

you get all pissy if i go off topic but face it, for the last umpteen pages, you've not been on topic at all. you get all pissy if i dare to "whataboutism" but when you do it, its simply a part of normal conversation.

there is simply zero middle ground here from you.

you attack people, not problems. unfortunately that is all too common these days and even more unfortunately, no one seems to understand that. if you've made people the problem as to why things are so messed up, i suppose to a point that can be correct. but it's far more than that. its our own societies inability to find that middle ground and discuss issues and how we can collectively deal with them. i try to do that as others do but so many trolls make that impossible and any valid discussion turns into emotional validation, which seldom has anything to do with the topic itself.

just how you feel about it.

at last check, how you feel about something never fixes it. coming together for collective solutions, does. or at least it used to. now it seems people don't want things fixed because they want to bitch about them instead.

aka - this entire thread. you want to bitch at trump and pretend he said he mentally declassified things w/o telling anyone. IS THAT WHAT HE SAID HE DID HERE? not that i've ever seen. just that there really isn't a process out there.

however, we agree there should be. now, instead of digging into what that process could look like and how we resolve this so we FIX THE GLITCH, you just giggle at trump for 80+ pages of random bullshit and never once try to suggest you fix this vs bitch at it and anyone who dares to disagree with you.

again however, this is very common and reflective of our society at a whole. SCOTUS nominations - we banter back and forth about what is legal and isn't but we never stop and simply define when you can and can't make the nomination.

we'd rather bitch about shit than fix it.

and that is our biggest problem today.

keep on ignoring me, dude. i get it. i could go on about how you're scared and get whooped in all these discussions but doing that to others has never been my goal. however, i do go there a lot it seems because that's the general tone of the board. Seymour Flops has been stellar in sticking to the topic but has faced the same issues i do.

your topics are based off emotions which change by the mood and you attack to defend these emotions. if you do it for another reason, please tell me.

Well said. I would add that this applies to many posters on here not just GG. Some are actually far worse so I don't bother with them.

I wouldn't have spent so much time on GG's verbal Chinese fire drill if not for his history of being reasonable and my hopes for the return of old Golfing Gator.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's how we make it legal, not ethically legal.

If having sex for money is unethical then having sex in front of a camera for money is at least as unethical. So a law with that loophole would make sex for money legal but not ethical.

What is and is not ethical is a rather subjective thing. You may or may not find having sex for money to be ethical, while someone else might hold an opposite view. Some think any sex outside of marriage is unethical, you may or may not agree. Is either side wrong? Are both sides right?

Killing a human being other than self defense doesn't become ethical because a court rules that it is legal if it is the killers own baby.

We make all sorts of ethical excused for killing another human being that is not covered by self-defense. Is it ethical for a member of the military to kill during war? Is it ethical for a police officer to kill in the line of duty even if it was not self-defense?

But you know that. DNC or LP, you feel compelled to defend legalized baby killing.

I am not defending anything, this is just one more lie you have chosen to tell since your ass has been handed to you for two straight days.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I wouldn't have spent so much time on GG's verbal Chinese fire drill if not for his history of being reasonable and my hopes for the return of old @Golfing Gator.

That is interesting as I feel the exact same way about you. You were once an honest person, you in the past did not lie about what people said to try and win an argument. Even on the DTT you were not that way.

I have hopes you will find your honesty and integrity again before you become too boring to deal with any longer.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What is and is not ethical is a rather subjective thing. You may or may not find having sex for money to be ethical, while someone else might hold an opposite view. Some think any sex outside of marriage is unethical, you may or may not agree. Is either side wrong? Are both sides right?

That's why I said "if" sex for money is unethical. Point being that legalizing sex for money does not make sex for money ethical. Legalizing killing a living human does not make it ethical.

We make all sorts of ethical excused for killing another human being that is not covered by self-defense.

We shouldn't.

Is it ethical for a member of the military to kill during war?

Nope, unless it is a defensive war.

Is it ethical for a police officer to kill in the line of duty even if it was not self-defense?

Nope, unless assisting an innocent person in defending themself.

Are you sure you're libertarian with the small "l"? Those answers are NAP 101.

I am not defending anything, this is just one more lie you have chosen to tell since your ass has been handed to you for two straight days.

Spiking the ball before crosding the goal line is classic Dem fallacy.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's why I said "if" sex for money is unethical. Point being that legalizing sex for money does not make sex for money ethical. Legalizing killing a living human does not make it ethical.

So what is the point. If what is and is not ethical cannot be agreed upon, should it be used to set our laws?

We shouldn't.

Says you.

Nope, unless it is a defensive war.

So, you have a really low view of us Veterans, especially those that killed someone in combat.

Spiking the ball before crosding the goal line is classic Dem fallacy.

I crossed the goal line 2 days ago, since then it has just been piling on as I wait for you to catch up.

 

[MagicMike]

The fact that you keep hounding him and demonizing him proves you're scared to death he's gonna run for President.

If he is installed into power again it will be the death of our republic.
Vladimur's goal of making the U.S.A. into Russia's image through Donald Trump will finally be realized.

Yeah, that's pretty scary.

 

[BS Filter]

If he is installed into power again it will be the death of our republic.
Vladimur's goal of making the U.S.A. into Russia's image through Donald Trump will finally be realized.

Yeah, that's pretty scary.

That's hilarious.

 

[iceberg]

Well said. I would add that this applies to many posters on here not just GG. Some are actually far worse so I don't bother with them.

I wouldn't have spent so much time on GG's verbal Chinese fire drill if not for his history of being reasonable and my hopes for the return of old Golfing Gator.

Same reason I've kept trying. In the past he hasn't always been so emotionally involved in issues. He's just got a hate boner for Trump that he has to show off at the expense of objectivity.

Push him to far he will simply ignore you. I can get wrapped up in proving his hypocrisy but it won't matter, he won't see it.

 

[iceberg]

That is interesting as I feel the exact same way about you. You were once an honest person, you in the past did not lie about what people said to try and win an argument. Even on the DTT you were not that way.

I have hopes you will find your honesty and integrity again before you become too boring to deal with any longer.

Why is it always someone else who changed and seldom ourselves?

 

[iceberg]

So what is the point. If what is and is not ethical cannot be agreed upon, should it be used to set our laws?



Says you.



So, you have a really low view of us Veterans, especially those that killed someone in combat.



I crossed the goal line 2 days ago, since then it has just been piling on as I wait for you to catch up.

Not ethical and necessity can sometimes go hand in hand.

You almost always skip the middle ground and continue to argue the extreme.

 

[Seymour Flops]

So what is the point. If what is and is not ethical cannot be agreed upon, should it be used to set our laws?

Of course.

Different people with different views negotiate what the laws should be based on their own version of ethics.

That's why we once had at least fifty different sets of abortion laws. Now we'll have that again.

Democrats are threatening to leave states that protect the unborn. I just hope they're not just saying that to get my hopes up.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's why we once had at least fifty different sets of abortion laws. Now we'll have that again.

Yes we will, and there will be no fewer than before because none of this addresses actually reducing them...it just moves where they are being done so people in some states can pat themselves on their back.

But it really never has been about the baby in the womb, just about scoring a political victory.

 

[iceberg]

Yes we will, and there will be no fewer than before because none of this addresses actually reducing them...it just moves where they are being done so people in some states can pat themselves on their back.

But it really never has been about the baby in the womb, just about scoring a political victory.

How is that any different than mocking what Trump says but no one else? And given you love to say how you kicked ass in an argument, aren't you after a victory as well vs resolving issues?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Yes we will, and there will be no fewer than before because none of this addresses actually reducing them...it just moves where they are being done so people in some states can pat themselves on their back.

But it really never has been about the baby in the womb, just about scoring a political victory.

Well that's democracy for you.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Well that's democracy for you.

Everyone gets to pretend they care about something without actually doing anything about it.

Pretty much the hallmark of our country over the last few decades.

 

[playtime]

^^^ THAT ^^^ is exactly what was going on in his head when he blurted that out!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Everyone gets to pretend they care about something without actually doing anything about it.

Pretty much the hallmark of our country over the last few decades.

It also gives us a chance to see what people do care about.

For example, a ten year old is handed over by her mother to her illegal alien boyfriend who rapes and impregnated her. To cover up the rape, mom drives her two hours to another state for an abortion by a doctor who covers up the age of the rapist.

She then brings the girl back to the rapist who the police are finally shamed into arresting over moms protestations that he did nothing wrong.

Mom still has her daughter and is presumably seeking a man who likes MILFS both and KILFS.

The Democrats reaction:

"a TWO HOUR car ride? That's outrageous!"

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It also gives us a chance to see what people do care about.

For example, a ten year old is handed over by her mother to her illegal alien boyfriend who rapes and impregnated her. To cover up the rape, mom drives her two hours to another state for an abortion by a doctor who covers up the age of the rapist.

She then brings the girl back to the rapist who the police are finally shamed into arresting over moms protestations that he did nothing wrong.

Mom still has her daughter and is presumably seeking a man who likes MILFS both and KILFS.

The Democrats reaction:

"a TWO HOUR car ride? That's outrageous!"

You have become the king of spin, is that what you traded your integrity for?