Trump Challenges Equal Endowment Of Birthright Citizenship For Children Of Illegal Migrants

[Monk-Eye]

" Clear View To The Ideological Retarded "

* Great Catch On Revealing Sick Minds *

So, people over the age of 45 aren't allowed to own firearms to defend themselves?

I had no idea those ignorant fucks believed such idiocy .

That even an old woman has the ability wield a great equalizer to defend her person and property by blasting holes in pieces of shit home invaders should be appreciated by all , but the left figures at some point individuals are of no further use to the state and being killed saves them the trouble of starving them to death as a matter of economic resource .

The " do not grab guns but grab gun owners and regulate them well " meme is a clear admission that the left intends to implement repression of individual liberty in the name of liberating us all through orwellian double think .

 

[Polishprince]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

Who said he can? He's offering an interpretation of the Constitution and how its going to be enforced.

Nothing in the 14th A specifically gives children of Illegals US Citizenship.

I know that a lot of Red Chinese as well as Russian citizens fly to America to give birth within our borders and then go home to give their kid the right to come here as a citizen.

Doesn't make much sense, I don't think that's what the writers of this amendment had in mind.


Now, if Sleepy Joe gets in and wants to reverse this, he would certainly be free to do so. But the D's will have to take responsibility for this. No more "hiding behind the constitution" and pretending it is out of their hands.

 

[Dragonlady]

" Trump Challenges Equal Endowment Of Birthright Citizenship For Children Of Illegal Migrants "

President Trump may sign executive order ending birthright citizenship

On Friday, various sources told The Hill that members of the Trump Administration have been discussing the issue with increasing frequency.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Under current law, all babies born in United States are automatically granted citizenship, regardless of whether or not their parents are American. An executive order signed by President Trump would likely put an end to such legal protections.
...
However, the courts have not definitively ruled on the issue.
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Critics of birthright citizenship oppose the fact that illegal immigrants and visitors to the United States can give birth to children who automatically have American citizenship rights.

All of Trump's bullshit EO's will be undone on Day 1 of the Biden Administration.

 

[Polishprince]

" Trump Challenges Equal Endowment Of Birthright Citizenship For Children Of Illegal Migrants "

President Trump may sign executive order ending birthright citizenship

On Friday, various sources told The Hill that members of the Trump Administration have been discussing the issue with increasing frequency.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Under current law, all babies born in United States are automatically granted citizenship, regardless of whether or not their parents are American. An executive order signed by President Trump would likely put an end to such legal protections.
...
However, the courts have not definitively ruled on the issue.
...
Critics of birthright citizenship oppose the fact that illegal immigrants and visitors to the United States can give birth to children who automatically have American citizenship rights.

All of Trump's bullshit EO's will be undone on Day 1 of the Biden Administration.

Possibly. But the Biden EO's will be challenged in court.

And that action will force the D's to assume RESPONSIBILITY for the wave of Illegal Alien crime.

 

[AZrailwhale]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The language in the Amendment is pretty vague, it sets out exemptions to birthright citizenship; one of which is essentially persons holding allegiance to another country. That can be interpreted to cover anyone with citizenship in another country thus making the children of illegal aliens or visitors to the US ineligible for birthright citizenship. An EO on the subject would eventually get the issue in front of SCOTUS for a definitive ruling. Unfortunately, at this point, it's too late for a Trump EO to make it through the courts before Biden cancels it out with another EO. Trump should have done this earlier in his presidency.

 

[Turtlesoup]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The Constitution never gave illegals anchor brats citizenship.

The claims that it had when it hadn't are lies (propaganda) put out by libs and republican swamp creatures who want the illegals in. Following the civil war an amendment was put in making slaves and their offspring citizens because they had put under and lived under the jurisdiction of the US for generations in many cases and were no longer subject to their home nations jurisdictions------------INDIANS weren't even made citizens no matter where they were born.........foreigners and their offspring weren't made citizens either and were never intended to be made citizens by this amendment. Only after SC ROBERTS and others spun and twisted the law were such claims were made despite the historical facts.

Natural born is the only requirement after 1808. We did not need a civil war nor the amendments that followed, only morals.

No......that is a lie.

Ellis ISland for example during the early 1900's with the immigrants flooding over. Born over or not-----if your parents weren't citizens you weren't one. Many many babies born here were kicked out when their parents didn't qualify citizenship or entry into the US for such things as not paying their medical examination bills, not being able to speak english, having a disease or disability, not having someone sponsor and vouch for them.

Now that you have tried to delegitimize my own mother, born in New Jersey, and her siblings, based on the date of their mother's and father's swearing in as citizens, go do your own ancestral homework. You are saying that any ancestors of people in Texas who were born when Texas was a territory of Mexico could not have passed down U.S. citizenship to their offspring. According to your theory, many of the people who fought Santa Ana at the Alamo were Mexican citizens.

Oh look ...you don't like the facts so you try for some sort of emotional manipulation? These type of stunts don't work well me since I always just restate the facts.

Hun again------many people flooded over to the US early 1900's and sought american citizenship. Many gave birth here and were subsequently denied citizenship for various reasons ---their offspring born here or not---were also kicked out back out of the country with them and not given citizenship. There never was an amendment that gave anchor brats citizenship.

Apparently, since you haven't figured it out on your own--your mother not born here and her siblings not born here like other kids not born here---was given citizenship when their parents became citizens (I assume legally) although given the nonsense you posted after being told the facts if they weren't given legal citizenship--I am all for tossing them and you back out. I like intelligent non-manipulative people, not free loaders attempting to manpulate.

All Texans (well not Indians) became citizens of the US when TEXAS became part of the US regardless of where their parents were born hun.

That was before the Civil War

Doesn't matter....

All states were the same before or after the war----once a state was admitted into the US--its citizens all gained citizenship regardless of where their parents were born..well still not the slaves before war and the indians before or after the war.

Yet that has nothing to do with the amendment and it's interpretation of today. Indians are citizens of their own sovereign nation.

Interpretation? You mean where compromised Roberts rewrote the law and ignored how it had been used before to make millions of illegal criminals citizens here who now bankrupt our hospitals, waste billions in welfare yearly, destroy our schools and over whelm our prison systems? How about following the law as it was written-and kicking illegals and their offspring out keeping the family together?

 

[Turtlesoup]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The Constitution never gave illegals anchor brats citizenship.

The claims that it had when it hadn't are lies (propaganda) put out by libs and republican swamp creatures who want the illegals in. Following the civil war an amendment was put in making slaves and their offspring citizens because they had put under and lived under the jurisdiction of the US for generations in many cases and were no longer subject to their home nations jurisdictions------------INDIANS weren't even made citizens no matter where they were born.........foreigners and their offspring weren't made citizens either and were never intended to be made citizens by this amendment. Only after SC ROBERTS and others spun and twisted the law were such claims were made despite the historical facts.

Natural born is the only requirement after 1808. We did not need a civil war nor the amendments that followed, only morals.

No......that is a lie.

Ellis ISland for example during the early 1900's with the immigrants flooding over. Born over or not-----if your parents weren't citizens you weren't one. Many many babies born here were kicked out when their parents didn't qualify citizenship or entry into the US for such things as not paying their medical examination bills, not being able to speak english, having a disease or disability, not having someone sponsor and vouch for them.

Now that you have tried to delegitimize my own mother, born in New Jersey, and her siblings, based on the date of their mother's and father's swearing in as citizens, go do your own ancestral homework. You are saying that any ancestors of people in Texas who were born when Texas was a territory of Mexico could not have passed down U.S. citizenship to their offspring. According to your theory, many of the people who fought Santa Ana at the Alamo were Mexican citizens.

Oh look ...you don't like the facts so you try for some sort of emotional manipulation? These type of stunts don't work well me since I always just restate the facts.

Hun again------many people flooded over to the US early 1900's and sought american citizenship. Many gave birth here and were subsequently denied citizenship for various reasons ---their offspring born here or not---were also kicked out back out of the country with them and not given citizenship. There never was an amendment that gave anchor brats citizenship.

Apparently, since you haven't figured it out on your own--your mother not born here and her siblings not born here like other kids not born here---was given citizenship when their parents became citizens (I assume legally) although given the nonsense you posted after being told the facts if they weren't given legal citizenship--I am all for tossing them and you back out. I like intelligent non-manipulative people, not free loaders attempting to manpulate.

All Texans (well not Indians) became citizens of the US when TEXAS became part of the US regardless of where their parents were born hun.

That was before the Civil War

Doesn't matter....

All states were the same before or after the war----once a state was admitted into the US--its citizens all gained citizenship regardless of where their parents were born..well still not the slaves before war and the indians before or after the war.

Yet that has nothing to do with the amendment and it's interpretation of today. Indians are citizens of their own sovereign nation.

Interpretation? You mean where compromised Roberts rewrote the law and ignored how it had been used before to make millions of illegal criminals citizens here who now bankrupt our hospitals, waste billions in welfare yearly, destroy our schools and over whelm our prison systems? How about following the law as it was written-and kicking illegals and their offspring out keeping the family together?

The amendment is basically obselete now ---it was only meant for former slaves who are all now all dead and gone. Remove the amendment and go back to common sense immigration anchor rats---are not citizens and need to be shipped back to their home countries with their trash families. And no welfare given to them.

 

[danielpalos]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The language in the Amendment is pretty vague, it sets out exemptions to birthright citizenship; one of which is essentially persons holding allegiance to another country. That can be interpreted to cover anyone with citizenship in another country thus making the children of illegal aliens or visitors to the US ineligible for birthright citizenship. An EO on the subject would eventually get the issue in front of SCOTUS for a definitive ruling. Unfortunately, at this point, it's too late for a Trump EO to make it through the courts before Biden cancels it out with another EO. Trump should have done this earlier in his presidency.

We don't have an immigration clause in our federal Constitution. It is a naturalization clause. We should have no illegal problem nor any illegal underclass.

 

[danielpalos]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The Constitution never gave illegals anchor brats citizenship.

The claims that it had when it hadn't are lies (propaganda) put out by libs and republican swamp creatures who want the illegals in. Following the civil war an amendment was put in making slaves and their offspring citizens because they had put under and lived under the jurisdiction of the US for generations in many cases and were no longer subject to their home nations jurisdictions------------INDIANS weren't even made citizens no matter where they were born.........foreigners and their offspring weren't made citizens either and were never intended to be made citizens by this amendment. Only after SC ROBERTS and others spun and twisted the law were such claims were made despite the historical facts.

Natural born is the only requirement after 1808. We did not need a civil war nor the amendments that followed, only morals.

No......that is a lie.

Ellis ISland for example during the early 1900's with the immigrants flooding over. Born over or not-----if your parents weren't citizens you weren't one. Many many babies born here were kicked out when their parents didn't qualify citizenship or entry into the US for such things as not paying their medical examination bills, not being able to speak english, having a disease or disability, not having someone sponsor and vouch for them.

Now that you have tried to delegitimize my own mother, born in New Jersey, and her siblings, based on the date of their mother's and father's swearing in as citizens, go do your own ancestral homework. You are saying that any ancestors of people in Texas who were born when Texas was a territory of Mexico could not have passed down U.S. citizenship to their offspring. According to your theory, many of the people who fought Santa Ana at the Alamo were Mexican citizens.

Oh look ...you don't like the facts so you try for some sort of emotional manipulation? These type of stunts don't work well me since I always just restate the facts.

Hun again------many people flooded over to the US early 1900's and sought american citizenship. Many gave birth here and were subsequently denied citizenship for various reasons ---their offspring born here or not---were also kicked out back out of the country with them and not given citizenship. There never was an amendment that gave anchor brats citizenship.

Apparently, since you haven't figured it out on your own--your mother not born here and her siblings not born here like other kids not born here---was given citizenship when their parents became citizens (I assume legally) although given the nonsense you posted after being told the facts if they weren't given legal citizenship--I am all for tossing them and you back out. I like intelligent non-manipulative people, not free loaders attempting to manpulate.

All Texans (well not Indians) became citizens of the US when TEXAS became part of the US regardless of where their parents were born hun.

That was before the Civil War

Doesn't matter....

All states were the same before or after the war----once a state was admitted into the US--its citizens all gained citizenship regardless of where their parents were born..well still not the slaves before war and the indians before or after the war.

Yet that has nothing to do with the amendment and it's interpretation of today. Indians are citizens of their own sovereign nation.

Interpretation? You mean where compromised Roberts rewrote the law and ignored how it had been used before to make millions of illegal criminals citizens here who now bankrupt our hospitals, waste billions in welfare yearly, destroy our schools and over whelm our prison systems? How about following the law as it was written-and kicking illegals and their offspring out keeping the family together?

The amendment is basically obselete now ---it was only meant for former slaves who are all now all dead and gone. Remove the amendment and go back to common sense immigration anchor rats---are not citizens and need to be shipped back to their home countries with their trash families. And no welfare given to them.

Abolish your warfare-State public policies like our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror first, right wingers; The right wing should lead the way in fiscal responsibility.

 

[Turtlesoup]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The Constitution never gave illegals anchor brats citizenship.

The claims that it had when it hadn't are lies (propaganda) put out by libs and republican swamp creatures who want the illegals in. Following the civil war an amendment was put in making slaves and their offspring citizens because they had put under and lived under the jurisdiction of the US for generations in many cases and were no longer subject to their home nations jurisdictions------------INDIANS weren't even made citizens no matter where they were born.........foreigners and their offspring weren't made citizens either and were never intended to be made citizens by this amendment. Only after SC ROBERTS and others spun and twisted the law were such claims were made despite the historical facts.

Natural born is the only requirement after 1808. We did not need a civil war nor the amendments that followed, only morals.

No......that is a lie.

Ellis ISland for example during the early 1900's with the immigrants flooding over. Born over or not-----if your parents weren't citizens you weren't one. Many many babies born here were kicked out when their parents didn't qualify citizenship or entry into the US for such things as not paying their medical examination bills, not being able to speak english, having a disease or disability, not having someone sponsor and vouch for them.

Now that you have tried to delegitimize my own mother, born in New Jersey, and her siblings, based on the date of their mother's and father's swearing in as citizens, go do your own ancestral homework. You are saying that any ancestors of people in Texas who were born when Texas was a territory of Mexico could not have passed down U.S. citizenship to their offspring. According to your theory, many of the people who fought Santa Ana at the Alamo were Mexican citizens.

Oh look ...you don't like the facts so you try for some sort of emotional manipulation? These type of stunts don't work well me since I always just restate the facts.

Hun again------many people flooded over to the US early 1900's and sought american citizenship. Many gave birth here and were subsequently denied citizenship for various reasons ---their offspring born here or not---were also kicked out back out of the country with them and not given citizenship. There never was an amendment that gave anchor brats citizenship.

Apparently, since you haven't figured it out on your own--your mother not born here and her siblings not born here like other kids not born here---was given citizenship when their parents became citizens (I assume legally) although given the nonsense you posted after being told the facts if they weren't given legal citizenship--I am all for tossing them and you back out. I like intelligent non-manipulative people, not free loaders attempting to manpulate.

All Texans (well not Indians) became citizens of the US when TEXAS became part of the US regardless of where their parents were born hun.

That was before the Civil War

Doesn't matter....

All states were the same before or after the war----once a state was admitted into the US--its citizens all gained citizenship regardless of where their parents were born..well still not the slaves before war and the indians before or after the war.

Yet that has nothing to do with the amendment and it's interpretation of today. Indians are citizens of their own sovereign nation.

Interpretation? You mean where compromised Roberts rewrote the law and ignored how it had been used before to make millions of illegal criminals citizens here who now bankrupt our hospitals, waste billions in welfare yearly, destroy our schools and over whelm our prison systems? How about following the law as it was written-and kicking illegals and their offspring out keeping the family together?

The amendment is basically obselete now ---it was only meant for former slaves who are all now all dead and gone. Remove the amendment and go back to common sense immigration anchor rats---are not citizens and need to be shipped back to their home countries with their trash families. And no welfare given to them.

Abolish your warfare-State public policies like our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror first, right wingers; The right wing should lead the way in fiscal responsibility.

What does any of this have to do with illegals and their anchor rats being allowed in based on an obselete amendment that Roberts and the libs twisted and lied about in order to rewrite law?

 

[danielpalos]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The Constitution never gave illegals anchor brats citizenship.

The claims that it had when it hadn't are lies (propaganda) put out by libs and republican swamp creatures who want the illegals in. Following the civil war an amendment was put in making slaves and their offspring citizens because they had put under and lived under the jurisdiction of the US for generations in many cases and were no longer subject to their home nations jurisdictions------------INDIANS weren't even made citizens no matter where they were born.........foreigners and their offspring weren't made citizens either and were never intended to be made citizens by this amendment. Only after SC ROBERTS and others spun and twisted the law were such claims were made despite the historical facts.

Natural born is the only requirement after 1808. We did not need a civil war nor the amendments that followed, only morals.

No......that is a lie.

Ellis ISland for example during the early 1900's with the immigrants flooding over. Born over or not-----if your parents weren't citizens you weren't one. Many many babies born here were kicked out when their parents didn't qualify citizenship or entry into the US for such things as not paying their medical examination bills, not being able to speak english, having a disease or disability, not having someone sponsor and vouch for them.

Now that you have tried to delegitimize my own mother, born in New Jersey, and her siblings, based on the date of their mother's and father's swearing in as citizens, go do your own ancestral homework. You are saying that any ancestors of people in Texas who were born when Texas was a territory of Mexico could not have passed down U.S. citizenship to their offspring. According to your theory, many of the people who fought Santa Ana at the Alamo were Mexican citizens.

Oh look ...you don't like the facts so you try for some sort of emotional manipulation? These type of stunts don't work well me since I always just restate the facts.

Hun again------many people flooded over to the US early 1900's and sought american citizenship. Many gave birth here and were subsequently denied citizenship for various reasons ---their offspring born here or not---were also kicked out back out of the country with them and not given citizenship. There never was an amendment that gave anchor brats citizenship.

Apparently, since you haven't figured it out on your own--your mother not born here and her siblings not born here like other kids not born here---was given citizenship when their parents became citizens (I assume legally) although given the nonsense you posted after being told the facts if they weren't given legal citizenship--I am all for tossing them and you back out. I like intelligent non-manipulative people, not free loaders attempting to manpulate.

All Texans (well not Indians) became citizens of the US when TEXAS became part of the US regardless of where their parents were born hun.

That was before the Civil War

Doesn't matter....

All states were the same before or after the war----once a state was admitted into the US--its citizens all gained citizenship regardless of where their parents were born..well still not the slaves before war and the indians before or after the war.

Yet that has nothing to do with the amendment and it's interpretation of today. Indians are citizens of their own sovereign nation.

Interpretation? You mean where compromised Roberts rewrote the law and ignored how it had been used before to make millions of illegal criminals citizens here who now bankrupt our hospitals, waste billions in welfare yearly, destroy our schools and over whelm our prison systems? How about following the law as it was written-and kicking illegals and their offspring out keeping the family together?

The amendment is basically obselete now ---it was only meant for former slaves who are all now all dead and gone. Remove the amendment and go back to common sense immigration anchor rats---are not citizens and need to be shipped back to their home countries with their trash families. And no welfare given to them.

Abolish your warfare-State public policies like our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror first, right wingers; The right wing should lead the way in fiscal responsibility.

What does any of this have to do with illegals and their anchor rats being allowed in based on an obselete amendment that Roberts and the libs twisted and lied about in order to rewrite law?

Free market Capitalism, what is That sayeth the Right Wing every time it comes up.

There is no express Immigration clause it is an express Naturalization clause.

 

[Agit8r]

"it is beyond doubt that, before the enactment of the civil rights act of 1866 or the adoption of the constitutional amendment, all white persons, at least, born within the sovereignty of the United States, whether children of citizens or of foreigners, excepting only children of ambassadors or public ministers of a foreign government, were native-born citizens of the United States.
In the forefront, both of the fourteenth amendment of the constitution, and of the civil rights act of 1866, the fundamental principle of citizenship by birth within the dominion was reaffirmed in the most explcit and comprehensive terms." -- United States v Wong Kim Ark

Executive Oreders cannot create law out of whole cloth. They are subordinate to the power of legislation. Legislated laws are also subordinate to the Constitution itself.

Not only does this attempt to amend the Constitution by fiat have no plausible legal force, but it tells the impartial observer that all who support such an effort have a treasonable level of contempt for the Constitution.

 

[Moonglow]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The Constitution never gave illegals anchor brats citizenship.

The claims that it had when it hadn't are lies (propaganda) put out by libs and republican swamp creatures who want the illegals in. Following the civil war an amendment was put in making slaves and their offspring citizens because they had put under and lived under the jurisdiction of the US for generations in many cases and were no longer subject to their home nations jurisdictions------------INDIANS weren't even made citizens no matter where they were born.........foreigners and their offspring weren't made citizens either and were never intended to be made citizens by this amendment. Only after SC ROBERTS and others spun and twisted the law were such claims were made despite the historical facts.

Natural born is the only requirement after 1808. We did not need a civil war nor the amendments that followed, only morals.

No......that is a lie.

Ellis ISland for example during the early 1900's with the immigrants flooding over. Born over or not-----if your parents weren't citizens you weren't one. Many many babies born here were kicked out when their parents didn't qualify citizenship or entry into the US for such things as not paying their medical examination bills, not being able to speak english, having a disease or disability, not having someone sponsor and vouch for them.

Now that you have tried to delegitimize my own mother, born in New Jersey, and her siblings, based on the date of their mother's and father's swearing in as citizens, go do your own ancestral homework. You are saying that any ancestors of people in Texas who were born when Texas was a territory of Mexico could not have passed down U.S. citizenship to their offspring. According to your theory, many of the people who fought Santa Ana at the Alamo were Mexican citizens.

Oh look ...you don't like the facts so you try for some sort of emotional manipulation? These type of stunts don't work well me since I always just restate the facts.

Hun again------many people flooded over to the US early 1900's and sought american citizenship. Many gave birth here and were subsequently denied citizenship for various reasons ---their offspring born here or not---were also kicked out back out of the country with them and not given citizenship. There never was an amendment that gave anchor brats citizenship.

Apparently, since you haven't figured it out on your own--your mother not born here and her siblings not born here like other kids not born here---was given citizenship when their parents became citizens (I assume legally) although given the nonsense you posted after being told the facts if they weren't given legal citizenship--I am all for tossing them and you back out. I like intelligent non-manipulative people, not free loaders attempting to manpulate.

All Texans (well not Indians) became citizens of the US when TEXAS became part of the US regardless of where their parents were born hun.

That was before the Civil War

Doesn't matter....

All states were the same before or after the war----once a state was admitted into the US--its citizens all gained citizenship regardless of where their parents were born..well still not the slaves before war and the indians before or after the war.

Yet that has nothing to do with the amendment and it's interpretation of today. Indians are citizens of their own sovereign nation.

Interpretation? You mean where compromised Roberts rewrote the law and ignored how it had been used before to make millions of illegal criminals citizens here who now bankrupt our hospitals, waste billions in welfare yearly, destroy our schools and over whelm our prison systems? How about following the law as it was written-and kicking illegals and their offspring out keeping the family together?

Then I suggest you campaign to have it changed until then it's a sol moment

 

[Turtlesoup]

trump cannot unilaterally change the Constitution.

The Constitution never gave illegals anchor brats citizenship.

The claims that it had when it hadn't are lies (propaganda) put out by libs and republican swamp creatures who want the illegals in. Following the civil war an amendment was put in making slaves and their offspring citizens because they had put under and lived under the jurisdiction of the US for generations in many cases and were no longer subject to their home nations jurisdictions------------INDIANS weren't even made citizens no matter where they were born.........foreigners and their offspring weren't made citizens either and were never intended to be made citizens by this amendment. Only after SC ROBERTS and others spun and twisted the law were such claims were made despite the historical facts.

Natural born is the only requirement after 1808. We did not need a civil war nor the amendments that followed, only morals.

No......that is a lie.

Ellis ISland for example during the early 1900's with the immigrants flooding over. Born over or not-----if your parents weren't citizens you weren't one. Many many babies born here were kicked out when their parents didn't qualify citizenship or entry into the US for such things as not paying their medical examination bills, not being able to speak english, having a disease or disability, not having someone sponsor and vouch for them.

Now that you have tried to delegitimize my own mother, born in New Jersey, and her siblings, based on the date of their mother's and father's swearing in as citizens, go do your own ancestral homework. You are saying that any ancestors of people in Texas who were born when Texas was a territory of Mexico could not have passed down U.S. citizenship to their offspring. According to your theory, many of the people who fought Santa Ana at the Alamo were Mexican citizens.

Oh look ...you don't like the facts so you try for some sort of emotional manipulation? These type of stunts don't work well me since I always just restate the facts.

Hun again------many people flooded over to the US early 1900's and sought american citizenship. Many gave birth here and were subsequently denied citizenship for various reasons ---their offspring born here or not---were also kicked out back out of the country with them and not given citizenship. There never was an amendment that gave anchor brats citizenship.

Apparently, since you haven't figured it out on your own--your mother not born here and her siblings not born here like other kids not born here---was given citizenship when their parents became citizens (I assume legally) although given the nonsense you posted after being told the facts if they weren't given legal citizenship--I am all for tossing them and you back out. I like intelligent non-manipulative people, not free loaders attempting to manpulate.

All Texans (well not Indians) became citizens of the US when TEXAS became part of the US regardless of where their parents were born hun.

That was before the Civil War

Doesn't matter....

All states were the same before or after the war----once a state was admitted into the US--its citizens all gained citizenship regardless of where their parents were born..well still not the slaves before war and the indians before or after the war.

Yet that has nothing to do with the amendment and it's interpretation of today. Indians are citizens of their own sovereign nation.

Interpretation? You mean where compromised Roberts rewrote the law and ignored how it had been used before to make millions of illegal criminals citizens here who now bankrupt our hospitals, waste billions in welfare yearly, destroy our schools and over whelm our prison systems? How about following the law as it was written-and kicking illegals and their offspring out keeping the family together?

Then I suggest you campaign to have it changed until then it's a sol moment

Waited for old Ruth to die-------------now the sc has a good opportunity to fix this miscarriage of justice especially if Trump stays in. Want to see if Barrett shows her true colors with the upcoming election hearings.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Left Wing Ethical Policies Of Idiocy "

* Haters Of America Speak Out *

All of Trump's bullshit EO's will be undone on Day 1 of the Biden Administration.

That senile shit for brains beijing biden will fuck us all over at the behest of mindless anti-america-first drones such as yourself .

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After many false starts — including the zero-tolerance policy that drove family separations — the Trump administration got a handle on the border thanks to its “remain in Mexico” policy and “safe third country” agreements with Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras.

These initiatives closed an enormous loophole in the U.S. asylum system — undeserving asylum-seekers were able to gain access to our country, stay here for years while their claims worked their way through overwhelmed immigration courts, and remain even after their claims were denied because we lack the capacity (or will) to track and deport them. This running, de facto amnesty served as a powerful magnet for migrants from Central America.

But the Trump administration managed to get Mexico to agree to the so-called Migration Protection Protocols. This meant that asylum-seekers from countries other than Mexico could be made to remain in Mexico while their claims were adjudicated in the U.S. Also, under the safe-third-country agreements, asylum-seekers could be sent to Guatemala, El Salvador, or Honduras (whichever wasn’t their home country) to apply for asylum there.

Under the law, someone is supposed to be eligible for asylum only if he is targeted for persecution because of his race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion — a definition that shouldn’t apply to economic migrants or people who fear domestic or gang violence.

Biden is pledging to destroy this entire architecture, and his aides have been telling reporters that this is exactly what he will do.

 

[danielpalos]

Biden is pledging to destroy this entire architecture, and his aides have been telling reporters that this is exactly what he will do.

Or maybe, we can actually help our neighbors improve their economies so their citizenry doesn't want to come here.

 

[Lysistrata]

Nothing in the 14th A specifically gives children of Illegals US Citizenship.

It does. Read it. It's funny that the restrictive reading of the 14th Amendment being pushed by the right-wing fanatics actually makes Americans who are descended from Africans who were imported to the U.S. under conditions of bondage legitimate American citizens, but the rest of us, not so much.

Sorry guys. My father's ancestors came to NYC before there was an Ellis Island. My mother's family arrived in the early 1900s, before the Russian Revolution and WWI. Go and do your own ancestral research. Go do trump's. Is he a "legitimate" American citizen? Why try to derail anyone's citizenship? My ancestors raised their hands and swore the oath. So did millions of others. It's no matter if your ancestors, like mine, came from Europe. Think how many of our fellow Americans came from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Laos.

I didn't have to raise my hand and take the oath because I was born here. My parents were born here. I've known people from Turkey, Britain, Laos, Vietnam, Pakistan, and Korea who actually went through the process of becoming Americans and raised their hands to become citizens of this Our Republic, the same oath that my maternal grandparents swore.

Shut the fuck up.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Collects Stray Cats And Hoards Plastic Bags "

* Goofy Land *

It does. Read it. It's funny that the restrictive reading of the 14th Amendment being pushed by the right-wing fanatics actually makes Americans who are descended from Africans who were imported to the U.S. under conditions of bondage legitimate American citizens, but the rest of us, not so much.
Sorry guys. My father's ancestors came to NYC before there was an Ellis Island. My mother's family arrived in the early 1900s, before the Russian Revolution and WWI. Go and do your own ancestral research. Go do trump's. Is he a "legitimate" American citizen? Why try to derail anyone's citizenship? My ancestors raised their hands and swore the oath. So did millions of others. It's no matter if your ancestors, like mine, came from Europe. Think how many of our fellow Americans came from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Laos.
I didn't have to raise my hand and take the oath because I was born here. My parents were born here. I've known people from Turkey, Britain, Laos, Vietnam, Pakistan, and Korea who actually went through the process of becoming Americans and raised their hands to become citizens of this Our Republic, the same oath that my maternal grandparents swore.
Shut the fuck up.

What in hell are you babbling on about ?

People were invited here , legally , they have children and the children become citizens , as they came in the front door .

People arrive here uninvited , illegally , they have children and their children should get citizenship jus sanguinin from the country of their parent , as they came in the window .

I was standing in line at the grocery this evening , and in front of me was a family with two kids in the basket , one in the mother arms and she was pregnant and about to burst with a fourth , they bought 5 turkeys along with a basket full of groceries and paid with a state food card .

So you shut the fuck up with the religion of secular humanism bull shit of entitlement to pilfer public coffers to pay for your charities .

Go collect private philanthropic donations , put on your nun habit and go to their country to minister to their needs as they breed themselves into poverty rather than coaxing them into the back yards of others .

There are approximately 1.4 million annual legal immigrants to the us ( 120,000 per month ) , first come first served based upon extended family reunification and not merit based upon employment needs , and fuck it all if that is not enough gluttony as the left blubbers about climate change , animal extinction , pollution and carrying capacity of natural resources .

 

[danielpalos]

Right wingers only allege to believe in natural rights in abortion threads.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Remaining Practical "

* Ounce Of Prevention *

Or maybe, we can actually help our neighbors improve their economies so their citizenry doesn't want to come here.

Send then contraceptives as a start to divert them from breeding into poverty .

Trading partners is an option individuals may pursue as free enterprise but diminishing us industry and sidelining us work force through government dictates for the sake of playing surrogate to some other country is below tertiary to putting americans first .

* Pragmatic About Nature *

Right wingers only allege to believe in natural rights in abortion threads.

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