HereWeGoAgain
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Typical low effort n!gger......
Trump cannot be Guilty of Obstruction concerning Comey
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Typical low effort n!gger......
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Take a Memo:
He's wrong. Before this is all said and done, the Democrats will be lucky if they get out of all this without some of them going to prison. All this Russian interference happened on THEIR watch! Right under THEIR incompetent noses! And while THEY were responsible for protecting us against cyber warfare, they were utilizing our national security tools to spy on political enemies. Now.... they have the nerve to try and blame all this on Trump!
They've produced NO evidence of collusion... NO evidence of obstruction... They've implicated themselves in one criminal act after another, from leaking of classified and privileged information, politicizing the FBI, unmasking of private citizens, conspiring to influence an election, obstructing of justice and failing to protect our election system from cyber attack.
whutTHEYsay
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The military is not with the orange idiot.
whutTHEYsay
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Boss, post: 17478805
We have produced a Special Council to investigate all that. Trump's top National Security pick was forced to quit. Kushner lied to get security clearance. Trump's pick for AG lied (forgot) the same as Kushner and had to recuse himself. Trump admitted to Russians in Oval Office he fired Comey to relieve pressure on him from the investigations.
You have no idea what Mueller is finding out. Mueller is a long time Comey pal.
Trump is in fear of this investigation. Anyone can sense that. Unless one is hopelessly duped by the orange haired clown.
We have produced a Special Council to investigate all that. Trump's top National Security pick was forced to quit. Kushner lied to get security clearance. Trump's pick for AG lied (forgot) the same as Kushner and had to recuse himself. Trump admitted to Russians in Oval Office he fired Comey to relieve pressure on him from the investigations.
You have no idea what Mueller is finding out. Mueller is a long time Comey pal.
Trump is in fear of this investigation. Anyone can sense that. Unless one is hopelessly duped by the orange haired clown.
2aguy
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Wow...making stuff up isn't going to make it true.
comey told him 3 times that he wasn't under investigation...and it turns out neither was Flynn for anything to do with Russia, he is under investigation for a process crime involving his paperwork....and comey stated that Trump told him to go after anyone in his circle if they were involved with anything to do with Russia.....
He fired comey because he realized comey was not only incompetent, but a nut job and obama minion.
Trump has been compromised for black mail from Russia and Putin.
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You are possibly the only person in the country who doesn't think Flynn was investigated by the FBI. Virtually every news source has run some type of story acknowledging the investigation. And if we are going to be calling out credibility, we'll you my friend have your issues there too. I seem to remember a time when you were posting about why you might vote Hillary over Trump. As a conservative with the Supreme Court in the balance, that is shameful.
Trump’s Russia scandal keeps getting deeper: At this point, campaign collusion might be the least of his problems
With every passing day and every passing derp, President Donald Trump makes his campaign’s possible collusion with Russia to hijack last year’s election seem almost secondary. Surely that’s not his intention; indeed, it’s exactly the opposite. But anyone, regardless of politics, who has observed Trump’s reactions to the deepening Russia story can plainly see that the 45th president is way out of his depth.
Anyone with even a remedial understanding of politics and public relations understands that Trump is bungling the White House reaction to the ongoing investigation, turning an already harrowing treason probe into a harrowing treason probe made far more toxic by an obvious coverup.
It’s still unclear exactly what’s wrong with the president that he continues to botch and fumble the political reaction to the widening Russia scandal. We should definitely rule out, with prejudice, any argument that the president is practicing “three-dimensional chess” — that is, the “crazy like a fox” theory suggesting that Trump is working his way through a twisty Machiavellian strategy that we mere mortals are incapable of understanding. There’s nothing like that going on here. Chances are, Trump is being perpetually stymied by a combination of his desperation to kill the Russia probe; his clinical delusions, in which he believes certain things are real that clearly aren’t; his political ignorance; and, of course, his erratic knee-jerk style of blurting out gibberish and lies without any message discipline or self-censorship.
As a result, we’re treated to events like last week when the president fired James Comey, the now-former FBI director who was deeply involved with investigating Trump’s links to Russia, followed by a shit show the likes of which we have rarely witnessed in presidential politics since 1974. As if the firing of Comey wasn’t suspicious enough, the White House at first tried to claim that this happened specifically because of the way Comey had handled Hillary Clinton email scandal. That was the line throughout the first 24 hours of the aftermath.
Trump’s Russia scandal keeps getting deeper: At this point, campaign collusion might be the least of his problems
Go check your blood insulin levels you Diabetic Idiot.
2aguy
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Except...no......there is no evidence of this...at all......anywhere...in any universe...but thanks for playing...
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Trump’s Russia scandal keeps getting deeper: At this point, campaign collusion might be the least of his problems
With every passing day and every passing derp, President Donald Trump makes his campaign’s possible collusion with Russia to hijack last year’s election seem almost secondary. Surely that’s not his intention; indeed, it’s exactly the opposite. But anyone, regardless of politics, who has observed Trump’s reactions to the deepening Russia story can plainly see that the 45th president is way out of his depth.
Anyone with even a remedial understanding of politics and public relations understands that Trump is bungling the White House reaction to the ongoing investigation, turning an already harrowing treason probe into a harrowing treason probe made far more toxic by an obvious coverup.
It’s still unclear exactly what’s wrong with the president that he continues to botch and fumble the political reaction to the widening Russia scandal. We should definitely rule out, with prejudice, any argument that the president is practicing “three-dimensional chess” — that is, the “crazy like a fox” theory suggesting that Trump is working his way through a twisty Machiavellian strategy that we mere mortals are incapable of understanding. There’s nothing like that going on here. Chances are, Trump is being perpetually stymied by a combination of his desperation to kill the Russia probe; his clinical delusions, in which he believes certain things are real that clearly aren’t; his political ignorance; and, of course, his erratic knee-jerk style of blurting out gibberish and lies without any message discipline or self-censorship.
As a result, we’re treated to events like last week when the president fired James Comey, the now-former FBI director who was deeply involved with investigating Trump’s links to Russia, followed by a shit show the likes of which we have rarely witnessed in presidential politics since 1974. As if the firing of Comey wasn’t suspicious enough, the White House at first tried to claim that this happened specifically because of the way Comey had handled Hillary Clinton email scandal. That was the line throughout the first 24 hours of the aftermath.
Trump’s Russia scandal keeps getting deeper: At this point, campaign collusion might be the least of his problems
Oh....you must have been in a coma on Thursday.........comey stated Trump was never under investigation....and made it clear that Flynn isn't in danger because of anything to do with Russia....but because he likely made innaccurate statements on his security paperwork and interviews............
Trump also told comey to pursue anyone in his circle who may have been dealing with the Russians..
Now that you are caught up...you can go back and delete that silly post.....
2aguy
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At this point......comey destroyed every talking point you guys have........you don't have anything anymore....Trump was never under investigation, the Russians didn't change one vote, and Flynn isn't under investigation for Russia.......
There is no one to flip on Trump.......since Trump didn't do anything...and again......comey stated that Trump told him to go after anyone in his circle who may have broken the law....
You really need to watch the testimony and not just watch the left wing democrats who pretend to be journalists....
The only one we know who committed a crime now....is comey...when he leaked to the press.....and whatever obama minion unmasked Flynn....
This is going to bite the democrats on the ass....
HereWeGoAgain
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How long have you had brain cancer???
HereWeGoAgain
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When you start making shit up it shows just how stupid you really are.
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Back atacha Dershy:
In the View of the Supreme Court, Alan Dershowitz Is Wrong About the Powers of the President
Alan Dershowitz, in a series of recent op-eds, has taken to arguing in his characteristic take-no-prisoners style that the whole issue of whether President Trump might have obstructed justice is a red herring. Even if the President ordered James Comey to shut down the Flynn investigation and had a corrupt intent for doing so, this would still not amount to the crime of obstruction of justice.
The reason, according to Dershowitz, is that the Constitution gives the exclusive power to the President to control all federal law-enforcement investigations—and thus to shut any of them down for any reason the President sees fit. In other words, the President can never commit obstruction of justice by shutting down a criminal investigation or prosecution.
But Dershowitz fails to take into account that the Supreme Court has decisively rejected this view. In Morrison v. Olson (1988), a 7-1 Supreme Court turned back constitutional challenges to Congress’ creation of the Act that gave us the office of the Independent Counsel—and in doing so, dismissed exactly the argument that Dershowitz now seeks to invoke.
The Ethics in Government Act was created out of the recognition that the President should be taken out of the process of controlling investigations and prosecutions that involved potential crimes by himself or high-ranking government officials—i.e., close aides of the President. As the Supreme Court thought was obvious, “Congress, of course, was concerned when it created the office of independent counsel with the conflicts of interest that could arise in situations when the Executive Branch is called upon to investigate its own high-ranking officers.”
The Act created a process that could lead to the appointment of an Independent Counsel for this role, and the entire point of the Act was to insulate the Independent Counsel—and hence the investigation and prosecution of crimes involving the President and his or her top aides—from the President’s complete control. The Act essentially put the powers of the Department of Justice in the hands of the Independent Counsel: it vested him or her with the "full power and independent authority to exercise all investigative and prosecutorial functions and powers of the Department of Justice [and] the Attorney General."
Then, to even further ensure that the President not have unfettered control when potential crimes involving himself and his top aides were at stake..."
In the View of the Supreme Court, Alan Dershowitz Is Wrong About the Powers of the President
In the View of the Supreme Court, Alan Dershowitz Is Wrong About the Powers of the President
Alan Dershowitz, in a series of recent op-eds, has taken to arguing in his characteristic take-no-prisoners style that the whole issue of whether President Trump might have obstructed justice is a red herring. Even if the President ordered James Comey to shut down the Flynn investigation and had a corrupt intent for doing so, this would still not amount to the crime of obstruction of justice.
The reason, according to Dershowitz, is that the Constitution gives the exclusive power to the President to control all federal law-enforcement investigations—and thus to shut any of them down for any reason the President sees fit. In other words, the President can never commit obstruction of justice by shutting down a criminal investigation or prosecution.
But Dershowitz fails to take into account that the Supreme Court has decisively rejected this view. In Morrison v. Olson (1988), a 7-1 Supreme Court turned back constitutional challenges to Congress’ creation of the Act that gave us the office of the Independent Counsel—and in doing so, dismissed exactly the argument that Dershowitz now seeks to invoke.
The Ethics in Government Act was created out of the recognition that the President should be taken out of the process of controlling investigations and prosecutions that involved potential crimes by himself or high-ranking government officials—i.e., close aides of the President. As the Supreme Court thought was obvious, “Congress, of course, was concerned when it created the office of independent counsel with the conflicts of interest that could arise in situations when the Executive Branch is called upon to investigate its own high-ranking officers.”
The Act created a process that could lead to the appointment of an Independent Counsel for this role, and the entire point of the Act was to insulate the Independent Counsel—and hence the investigation and prosecution of crimes involving the President and his or her top aides—from the President’s complete control. The Act essentially put the powers of the Department of Justice in the hands of the Independent Counsel: it vested him or her with the "full power and independent authority to exercise all investigative and prosecutorial functions and powers of the Department of Justice [and] the Attorney General."
Then, to even further ensure that the President not have unfettered control when potential crimes involving himself and his top aides were at stake..."
In the View of the Supreme Court, Alan Dershowitz Is Wrong About the Powers of the President
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