Trump Begins Throttling California

[Billy_Kinetta]

I just have a question for the so called right wingers.
Did you know that California is the biggest economy of the US?
Did you know it gives to the federal government more than it takes ?
Did you know that lot of things that you use on daily basis from technology, internet, apps, food, entertainment...comes from California?

Since I joined this forum i saw hundreds of topics anti California, none about any red state...that speaks volumes.

Where IS that yawn button?

 

[Marion Morrison]

The national forest which bordered a bunch of million dollar luxury homes.
The owners lobbied the state gov. NOT to clear the undergrowth b/c there was a chance that the 'ten toed polka dot salamander' might be affected.
Even Jerry Brown agreed the Cal. gov. had fucked up by not brush clearing.
******* wise up!

Please stop with the lies. Clearing the underbrush had NOTHING to do with the California wild fires. Governor Jerry Brown looked at Trump like he had grown two heads when he suggested it.

The President of Norway publically mocked and laughed at Donald Trump for this ridiculous suggestion.

Oh so under brush doesn't burn??

If there is no under brush the fire had a hard time spreading.

As for Brown?? He, like you, doesn't know how fire travels.

You really should educate yourself before you end up sounding like a fool.

No, it is you who is being the idiot here. There are 45 million acres of federally owned land in California. How much money would it cost to clear the underbrush from 45 million acres of land? How long will it take to clear underbrush, and how many people will it employ? Since this is not something that can be done by machines, how much money is the federal government prepared to spend doing this?

Please remember that one of the FIRST things that President Trump did is to cut the budget of the US Forestry Service by 1/3, so how do you propose that the US Forestry Service undertake to clear the brush from that 45 million acress of federally owned land in California.

And here's another dose of reality, Ms. Smartass: Underbrush is the fastest growing stuff in the forest. If you cut it in the spring, you'll have to cut it again in the summer. And again next spring too.

And California is just one state.

So it was only Federal land that burned and all those houses that were destroyed were on Federal land??

I think not.

The fire started on federally owned lands, and most of the property that was burned was owned by the government. Fire is no respecter of property boundaries, and it's not spread by underbrush, underbrush is actually a way of slowing a fire, when you don't have drought conditions.

Canada is home to the largest temperate rainforests on the planet, so we do know a little bit about forest management. Some of us actually live in those forests, and have vacagtion homes there. Nobody clears underbrush as a fire hazzard. We clear it for esthetic purposes, or to get around our properties more easily, but fire management is done by not starting fires - not campfires.

Green and growing plants and underbrush are slower to burn. It is only when there are drought conditions, and the grasses are dried out with heat and drought, that the underbrush becomes fuel to a fire. It was the drought conditions caused by climate change that created the conditions for this year's fires in California.

Conservatives are desperate to continue to deny the negative impact of climate change, which they've denied for years, and this argument is your last dying gasp of ignorance and stupidity in the modern day "flat earth society" that is the climate change denialists stance.

Unless it's all Pine trees, like in California. Then it all goes up like as much gasoline.

 

[Marion Morrison]

 

[skookerasbil]

I just have a question for the so called right wingers.
Did you know that California is the biggest economy of the US?
Did you know it gives to the federal government more than it takes ?
Did you know that lot of things that you use on daily basis from technology, internet, apps, food, entertainment...comes from California?

Since I joined this forum i saw hundreds of topics anti California, none about any red state...that speaks volumes.

Oy

Nobody cares

 

[Kondor3]

So, Trump doesn't like the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of Kalipornia either, eh?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day...

The Creature got it right with Illegal Aliens...

The Creature got it right with Sanctuary Scumbags...

 

[Dragonlady]

Idiot conservatives have no idea of the meaning of the term "sanctuary cities". They think it's places where illegal immigrants can commit crimes with impunity. Not places where they can REPORT crimes committed against them with no fear of deportation.

 

[hazlnut]

So ya wanna be a sanctuary state, do ya? Too busy taking care of foreigners to take care of forest management, eh?

In a Wednesday morning tweet, President Trump said he had instructed the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to cut off funding for California wildfire relief unless the state improves its forest management.

Trump Tells FEMA to Halt Funds for California Wildfires

PRESIDENT CHAOS STRIKES AGAIN.

IN THE WANING DAYS OF HIS "presidency" he's just going to burn it all down.


Micheal Moore was right. TRUMP is a Molotov cocktail thrown by bitter angry Americans at D.C.

 

[hazlnut]

Here's an economic reality for the rest of the country to swallow.

Without California you would all starve.

Without California's tax base, industries, wealth, educated professionals created in the UC schools, you would become a third world country overnight.

Shit, almost forgot the Port of L.A. Cut of access to that and the U.S. goes dark.

New York and Texas are like The Flash and Batman... without Superman (CA) the JLA is toast.

Just say thank you, bitches.


The U.S. needs Ca more than CA needs the U.S.

Georgia gets it. Why do you think they allow Hollywood to shoot all their movies in the Peach state for free?

 

[Norman]

Here's an economic reality for the rest of the country to swallow.

Without California you would all starve.

Without California's tax base, industries, wealth, educated professionals created in the UC schools, you would become a third world country overnight.

Shit, almost forgot the Port of L.A. Cut of access to that and the U.S. goes dark.

New York and Texas are like The Flash and Batman... without Superman (CA) the JLA is toast.

Just say thank you, bitches.


The U.S. needs Ca more than CA needs the U.S.

Georgia gets it. Why do you think they allow Hollywood to shoot all their movies in the Peach state for free?

This is some funny shit. I hear people with less than 60 in IQ actually believe it. That's below full retard.

 

[Lysistrata]

I guess this will put to bed for good the idea that trump is the president of all of us.

 

[Andylusion]

Well, California could just provide forest management. Just sayin.

Which is what they should do. Of course given they can't even manage their poop and drug needle covered streets.........

But in general, yeah, that is how it should be. California should deal with managing their own land.

 

[Dragonlady]

Here's an economic reality for the rest of the country to swallow.

Without California you would all starve.

Without California's tax base, industries, wealth, educated professionals created in the UC schools, you would become a third world country overnight.

Shit, almost forgot the Port of L.A. Cut of access to that and the U.S. goes dark.

New York and Texas are like The Flash and Batman... without Superman (CA) the JLA is toast.

Just say thank you, bitches.


The U.S. needs Ca more than CA needs the U.S.

Georgia gets it. Why do you think they allow Hollywood to shoot all their movies in the Peach state for free?

This is some funny shit. I hear people with less than 60 in IQ actually believe it. That's below full retard.

I always find it laughable when someone who blindly supports Trump calls other people "retarded". It's like Stevie Wonder saying he pays no attention to Ray Charles because the Ray is blind as a bat.

 

[Norman]

Here's an economic reality for the rest of the country to swallow.

Without California you would all starve.

Without California's tax base, industries, wealth, educated professionals created in the UC schools, you would become a third world country overnight.

Shit, almost forgot the Port of L.A. Cut of access to that and the U.S. goes dark.

New York and Texas are like The Flash and Batman... without Superman (CA) the JLA is toast.

Just say thank you, bitches.


The U.S. needs Ca more than CA needs the U.S.

Georgia gets it. Why do you think they allow Hollywood to shoot all their movies in the Peach state for free?

This is some funny shit. I hear people with less than 60 in IQ actually believe it. That's below full retard.

I always find it laughable when someone who blindly supports Trump calls other people "retarded". It's like Stevie Wonder saying he pays no attention to Ray Charles because the Ray is blind as a bat.

I actually only call retarded people retarded. Here however, I did not call the person retarded, that would have been a compliment. It was the truth that I told.

 

[Dragonlady]

Well, California could just provide forest management. Just sayin.

Which is what they should do. Of course given they can't even manage their poop and drug needle covered streets.........

But in general, yeah, that is how it should be. California should deal with managing their own land.

Poop and needle covered streets? Really??? You're even more ignorant and misinformed than I first thought, and that's saying a lot.

 

[Norman]

Well, California could just provide forest management. Just sayin.

Which is what they should do. Of course given they can't even manage their poop and drug needle covered streets.........

But in general, yeah, that is how it should be. California should deal with managing their own land.

Poop and needle covered streets? Really??? You're even more ignorant and misinformed than I first thought, and that's saying a lot.

They do have a poop problem though. Rapidly becoming a shithole with all the 3rd world people just walking over the border to their sanctuary, where they are put above Americans.

 

[Dragonlady]

Here's an economic reality for the rest of the country to swallow.

Without California you would all starve.

Without California's tax base, industries, wealth, educated professionals created in the UC schools, you would become a third world country overnight.

Shit, almost forgot the Port of L.A. Cut of access to that and the U.S. goes dark.

New York and Texas are like The Flash and Batman... without Superman (CA) the JLA is toast.

Just say thank you, bitches.


The U.S. needs Ca more than CA needs the U.S.

Georgia gets it. Why do you think they allow Hollywood to shoot all their movies in the Peach state for free?

This is some funny shit. I hear people with less than 60 in IQ actually believe it. That's below full retard.

I always find it laughable when someone who blindly supports Trump calls other people "retarded". It's like Stevie Wonder saying he pays no attention to Ray Charles because the Ray is blind as a bat.

I actually only call retarded people retarded. Here however, I did not call the person retarded, that would have been a compliment. It was the truth that I told.

Again, a Trump supporter, a man who couldn't find the truth standing in a field full of truth while covered in truth musk.

You lot are the most cluelessly incapable of discerning wisdom, truth or a good idea group of beings ever. You should have your voting rights restricted because you're a danger to yourself and others.

 

[Norman]

Here's an economic reality for the rest of the country to swallow.

Without California you would all starve.

Without California's tax base, industries, wealth, educated professionals created in the UC schools, you would become a third world country overnight.

Shit, almost forgot the Port of L.A. Cut of access to that and the U.S. goes dark.

New York and Texas are like The Flash and Batman... without Superman (CA) the JLA is toast.

Just say thank you, bitches.


The U.S. needs Ca more than CA needs the U.S.

Georgia gets it. Why do you think they allow Hollywood to shoot all their movies in the Peach state for free?

This is some funny shit. I hear people with less than 60 in IQ actually believe it. That's below full retard.

I always find it laughable when someone who blindly supports Trump calls other people "retarded". It's like Stevie Wonder saying he pays no attention to Ray Charles because the Ray is blind as a bat.

I actually only call retarded people retarded. Here however, I did not call the person retarded, that would have been a compliment. It was the truth that I told.

Again, a Trump supporter, a man who couldn't find the truth standing in a field full of truth while covered in truth musk.

You lot are the most cluelessly incapable of discerning wisdom, truth or a good idea group of beings ever. You should have your voting rights restricted because you're a danger to yourself and others.

You know nothing of truth, or insulting for that matter. A 3rd grader can insult better than you.

Now that the wall isn't done yet, you still have time to hop on to the other side of the border. Just walk over it like those who invaded California.

 

[Andylusion]

I guess this will put to bed for good the idea that trump is the president of all of us.

Not spending my tax money, of California's self created problem, clearly makes him a president for all of us. Not screwing over the entire country, for one state's incompetence, is the best thing he could do for the public.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Haha, look at our residents hyper Patriots, shitting on any state that doesn't lick their cult leader's butthole...trump has turned their brains to tapioca....

 

[busybee01]

So ya wanna be a sanctuary state, do ya? Too busy taking care of foreigners to take care of forest management, eh?

In a Wednesday morning tweet, President Trump said he had instructed the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to cut off funding for California wildfire relief unless the state improves its forest management.

Trump Tells FEMA to Halt Funds for California Wildfires

The fire started on federal land. The state has no say in land management. The National Forest Service and US BLM run the Plumas National Park. They saw no reason to do any clearing so they are the ones who are wrong. The courts will likely stop Trump.