Trump and the death of democracy.

[mamooth]

Which side has brownshirt mobs in the streets killing people and trying to intimidate them into voting for their candidate?

Yours, pretty overwhelmingly. Just what reality are you living in?

It's not the liberals who told mobs to illegally descend on the polling places to threaten voters. That was Trump himself. And we all know you support whatever DearLeader suggests.

I also see you made no comment on Trump bragging about ordering an extrajudicial killing, so it seems clear you support that brownshirt violence as well. You'd love to see right-wing death squads roaming the streets.

There are almost no liberals calling for violence. In stark contrast, pretty much every conservative, all the way up to Trump, calls for violence. The two sides are complete opposites on this issue.

 

[martybegan]

Which side has brownshirt mobs in the streets killing people and trying to intimidate them into voting for their candidate?

Yours, pretty overwhelmingly. Just what reality are you living in?

It's not the liberals who told mobs to illegally descend on the polling places to threaten voters. That was Trump himself. And we all know you support whatever DearLeader suggests.

I also see you made no comment on Trump bragging about ordering an extrajudicial killing, so it seems clear you support that brownshirt violence as well. You'd love to see right-wing death squads roaming the streets.

There are almost no democrats calling for violence. In stark contrast, pretty much every Republican, all the way up to Trump, calls for violence. The two sides are complete opposites on this issue.

Dodge, duck dip dive and dodge.

You will never give a straight answer, because as a socialist Dickhead you aren't obligated to. Lying to morons like you is just part of supporting the cause.

The hard left is out on the streets, fighting police, destroying property, attacking anyone who disagrees with them. You ignore it because you support them, and because you can lie about them easily due to your complete lack of integrity or even human dignity.

You are now dumber than SHE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED, and probably even more unprincipled than JoeB, and that is saying alot.

Now go back to your hole and jerk off to AGW agitprop.

 

[mamooth]

"Fuh Fuh Fuh, Fascist, Fuh Fuh Fuh, Orange Man Bad, Fuh Fuh Fuh"

If you just scream your "ORANGE MAN BAD!" catchphrase enough times, those awful liberals will stop humiliating you with facts, reason and good morality. Really. So keep doing it. After all, nobody thinks that you use it as an excuse to cry and run.

 

[Correll]

Which side has brownshirt mobs in the streets killing people and trying to intimidate them into voting for their candidate?

Yours, pretty overwhelmingly. Just what reality are you living in?

It's not the liberals who told mobs to illegally descend on the polling places to threaten voters. That was Trump himself. And we all know you support whatever DearLeader suggests.

I also see you made no comment on Trump bragging about ordering an extrajudicial killing, so it seems clear you support that brownshirt violence as well. You'd love to see right-wing death squads roaming the streets.

There are almost no liberals calling for violence. In stark contrast, pretty much every conservative, all the way up to Trump, calls for violence. The two sides are complete opposites on this issue.

1. Your denial of the antifa and blm mobs is noted and held against you. You are a liar.

2. Didn't hear about the bit you are referring to. I am assuming you are lying about it. Because EVERYTHING you have said in this thread, has been a lie.

3. You side is not calling for violence? Your side is calling for violence, doing violence, covering for violence and arresting and jailing people for defending themselves.

4. AND violence is not the only way you people have been undermining the democratic process. It is just the most obvious.

 

[martybegan]

"Fuh Fuh Fuh, Fascist, Fuh Fuh Fuh, Orange Man Bad, Fuh Fuh Fuh"

If you just scream your "ORANGE MAN BAD!" catchphrase enough times, those awful liberals will stop humiliating you with facst, reason and good morality. Really. So keep doing it. After all, nobody thinks that you use it as an excuse to cry and run.

What facts? All you do is scream fascist and lie about reality.

You prove nothing and you non-respond to anything pointed out to you.

You go off on the same lame tangents, each time screaming about how evil we are when you are clearly a heartless lefty SJW twat.

 

[Correll]

"Fuh Fuh Fuh, Fascist, Fuh Fuh Fuh, Orange Man Bad, Fuh Fuh Fuh"

If you just scream your "ORANGE MAN BAD!" catchphrase enough times, those awful liberals will stop humiliating you with facst, reason and good morality. Really. So keep doing it. After all, nobody thinks that you use it as an excuse to cry and run.

you had to cut nearly everything he said,, before you could reply.


Doesn't that raise any flags in your mind, about your position, that his words, couldn't be on the same page as your response?


Why do you think that was?

 

[martybegan]

"Fuh Fuh Fuh, Fascist, Fuh Fuh Fuh, Orange Man Bad, Fuh Fuh Fuh"

If you just scream your "ORANGE MAN BAD!" catchphrase enough times, those awful liberals will stop humiliating you with facst, reason and good morality. Really. So keep doing it. After all, nobody thinks that you use it as an excuse to cry and run.

you had to cut nearly everything he said,, before you could reply.


Doesn't that raise any flags in your mind, about your position, that his words, couldn't be on the same page as your response?


Why do you think that was?

I keep forgetting about Mammy, he comes and goes, but he is definitely one of the worst posters on this board, worse than Franco, worse than even JoeB.

And of course, he is approaching the stupidity of SHE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED.

 

[Moonglow]

Did you cry this

Why would people have voted for Donald Trump in 2016? There must have been something very wrong in American politics for the people to elect a candidate that had no political experience. It appeared to be a mass rejection of Washington and the insular leadership that is embedded there. Trump’s election ignited a firestorm of retaliation that included using intelligence agencies to dispense a misinformation campaign designed to create a false picture of enemy collusion. The entire operation was illegal, and no one has paid any price for what most reasonable observers would call subversion and sedition to dismantle an election.

That still does not answer the question about why the people would put an inexperienced non-politician in charge of the only truly free democracy remaining on the planet. It appears that Washington is so contaminated and spoiled that no one coming from its midst can be trusted to represent actual people living real lives in real time. The landscape has become so poisoned with discordant identity politics that individual citizens are regarded by a power structure aristocracy as lowly cattle that must not be allowed to stray from the herd.

Trump is dangerous because he encourages strays that pose a renegade threat to a managed herd of groupthink. There is no democracy in a herd, there is only the crack of the whip that drives it. Trump’s election was seen by the controlling architects as a stampede of insolence and ingratitude for the magnificence of ideological central planning. There is no room for divergent thought in a herd mentality, it must be punished with branding.

Our colleges and universities are engaged in holocaust methodology marking Caucasian citizens as damaged by birth and infectious carriers of disease that must be segregated and separated from the herd like history’s Jews. Washington is using crafted, incited racial hatred as a vehicle to drive the herd away from democracy and toward socialism.

The sellout of real democracy was nearly complete before Trump broke up the herd. The reaction of the herd drivers was swift and sure and if successful will be decisive. Democracy will submit to the whip and the herd will be led to slaughter while the band plays endless selections of political correctness.

If Trump loses democracy will just be a word in the dictionary. If Trump loses, democracy will be dead. Long live democracy.

I agree with you. Trump has put a giant dent in democracy. And the rule of law. And just common decency. The man is fundamentally corrupt. And there are investigations because of it. They are all of his own making. All of his problems are. Trump is dangerous because he has no compass, moral or otherwise. He blows in the direction of the strongest wind. And it's usually only because it benefits him personally. Trump backed into the WH by the slimmest of margins after Democrats put forth an unpopular candidate. Even then, all she had to do was campaign until the end and not even Comey's email surprise would have tipped it. Sorry. If Trump loses, democracy...recovers. If you think the disaster of the last four years, punctuated by an abysmal response to a pandemic, deserves another four years, then I don't know what America you actually believe in.

People like YOU are the ones putting our REPUBLIC in danger, because of your own delusions created by the construct of Trump you have fabricated to justify your "by any means necessary" tactics of either removing him or making him unable to perform his duties.

You have never accepted his win in 2016, and it shows, and THAT shows far more contempt for our system and the people who voted for him than anything else you clowns make up to keep up your ORANGE MAN BAD bleating.

Did you cry this much when they harassed Bill Clinton for eight years and tried to impeach him?

 

[Correll]

"Fuh Fuh Fuh, Fascist, Fuh Fuh Fuh, Orange Man Bad, Fuh Fuh Fuh"

If you just scream your "ORANGE MAN BAD!" catchphrase enough times, those awful liberals will stop humiliating you with facst, reason and good morality. Really. So keep doing it. After all, nobody thinks that you use it as an excuse to cry and run.

you had to cut nearly everything he said,, before you could reply.


Doesn't that raise any flags in your mind, about your position, that his words, couldn't be on the same page as your response?


Why do you think that was?

I keep forgetting about Mammy, he comes and goes, but he is definitely one of the worst posters on this board, worse than Franco, worse than even JoeB.

And of course, he is approaching the stupidity of SHE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED.

JOE B is the only person I have on ignore.

 

[Correll]

Did you cry this

Why would people have voted for Donald Trump in 2016? There must have been something very wrong in American politics for the people to elect a candidate that had no political experience. It appeared to be a mass rejection of Washington and the insular leadership that is embedded there. Trump’s election ignited a firestorm of retaliation that included using intelligence agencies to dispense a misinformation campaign designed to create a false picture of enemy collusion. The entire operation was illegal, and no one has paid any price for what most reasonable observers would call subversion and sedition to dismantle an election.

That still does not answer the question about why the people would put an inexperienced non-politician in charge of the only truly free democracy remaining on the planet. It appears that Washington is so contaminated and spoiled that no one coming from its midst can be trusted to represent actual people living real lives in real time. The landscape has become so poisoned with discordant identity politics that individual citizens are regarded by a power structure aristocracy as lowly cattle that must not be allowed to stray from the herd.

Trump is dangerous because he encourages strays that pose a renegade threat to a managed herd of groupthink. There is no democracy in a herd, there is only the crack of the whip that drives it. Trump’s election was seen by the controlling architects as a stampede of insolence and ingratitude for the magnificence of ideological central planning. There is no room for divergent thought in a herd mentality, it must be punished with branding.

Our colleges and universities are engaged in holocaust methodology marking Caucasian citizens as damaged by birth and infectious carriers of disease that must be segregated and separated from the herd like history’s Jews. Washington is using crafted, incited racial hatred as a vehicle to drive the herd away from democracy and toward socialism.

The sellout of real democracy was nearly complete before Trump broke up the herd. The reaction of the herd drivers was swift and sure and if successful will be decisive. Democracy will submit to the whip and the herd will be led to slaughter while the band plays endless selections of political correctness.

If Trump loses democracy will just be a word in the dictionary. If Trump loses, democracy will be dead. Long live democracy.

I agree with you. Trump has put a giant dent in democracy. And the rule of law. And just common decency. The man is fundamentally corrupt. And there are investigations because of it. They are all of his own making. All of his problems are. Trump is dangerous because he has no compass, moral or otherwise. He blows in the direction of the strongest wind. And it's usually only because it benefits him personally. Trump backed into the WH by the slimmest of margins after Democrats put forth an unpopular candidate. Even then, all she had to do was campaign until the end and not even Comey's email surprise would have tipped it. Sorry. If Trump loses, democracy...recovers. If you think the disaster of the last four years, punctuated by an abysmal response to a pandemic, deserves another four years, then I don't know what America you actually believe in.

People like YOU are the ones putting our REPUBLIC in danger, because of your own delusions created by the construct of Trump you have fabricated to justify your "by any means necessary" tactics of either removing him or making him unable to perform his duties.

You have never accepted his win in 2016, and it shows, and THAT shows far more contempt for our system and the people who voted for him than anything else you clowns make up to keep up your ORANGE MAN BAD bleating.

Did you cry this much when they harassed Bill Clinton for eight years and tried to impeach him?

We did nothing like this to Bill and his impeachment for sexual harassment and the coverup, was completely called for.


Sexual harassment is bad again, remember?

 

[martybegan]

Did you cry this

Why would people have voted for Donald Trump in 2016? There must have been something very wrong in American politics for the people to elect a candidate that had no political experience. It appeared to be a mass rejection of Washington and the insular leadership that is embedded there. Trump’s election ignited a firestorm of retaliation that included using intelligence agencies to dispense a misinformation campaign designed to create a false picture of enemy collusion. The entire operation was illegal, and no one has paid any price for what most reasonable observers would call subversion and sedition to dismantle an election.

That still does not answer the question about why the people would put an inexperienced non-politician in charge of the only truly free democracy remaining on the planet. It appears that Washington is so contaminated and spoiled that no one coming from its midst can be trusted to represent actual people living real lives in real time. The landscape has become so poisoned with discordant identity politics that individual citizens are regarded by a power structure aristocracy as lowly cattle that must not be allowed to stray from the herd.

Trump is dangerous because he encourages strays that pose a renegade threat to a managed herd of groupthink. There is no democracy in a herd, there is only the crack of the whip that drives it. Trump’s election was seen by the controlling architects as a stampede of insolence and ingratitude for the magnificence of ideological central planning. There is no room for divergent thought in a herd mentality, it must be punished with branding.

Our colleges and universities are engaged in holocaust methodology marking Caucasian citizens as damaged by birth and infectious carriers of disease that must be segregated and separated from the herd like history’s Jews. Washington is using crafted, incited racial hatred as a vehicle to drive the herd away from democracy and toward socialism.

The sellout of real democracy was nearly complete before Trump broke up the herd. The reaction of the herd drivers was swift and sure and if successful will be decisive. Democracy will submit to the whip and the herd will be led to slaughter while the band plays endless selections of political correctness.

If Trump loses democracy will just be a word in the dictionary. If Trump loses, democracy will be dead. Long live democracy.

I agree with you. Trump has put a giant dent in democracy. And the rule of law. And just common decency. The man is fundamentally corrupt. And there are investigations because of it. They are all of his own making. All of his problems are. Trump is dangerous because he has no compass, moral or otherwise. He blows in the direction of the strongest wind. And it's usually only because it benefits him personally. Trump backed into the WH by the slimmest of margins after Democrats put forth an unpopular candidate. Even then, all she had to do was campaign until the end and not even Comey's email surprise would have tipped it. Sorry. If Trump loses, democracy...recovers. If you think the disaster of the last four years, punctuated by an abysmal response to a pandemic, deserves another four years, then I don't know what America you actually believe in.

People like YOU are the ones putting our REPUBLIC in danger, because of your own delusions created by the construct of Trump you have fabricated to justify your "by any means necessary" tactics of either removing him or making him unable to perform his duties.

You have never accepted his win in 2016, and it shows, and THAT shows far more contempt for our system and the people who voted for him than anything else you clowns make up to keep up your ORANGE MAN BAD bleating.

Did you cry this much when they harassed Bill Clinton for eight years and tried to impeach him?

LOL, what happened to Clinton or even Bush I was tee ball compared to what goes on now. Bush II/Obama made it to maybe AA level, but the current mental illness shown by the left "trumps" anything that has been done in the past.

Clinton had a free run his first term, things didn't get cranky till later.

The only person he has to blame for his impeachment is himself, he lied under oath.

 

[mamooth]

You will never give a straight answer,

I just gave a straight answer by saing "yours", so now you look kind of insane and dishsonest.

You're faking stories of violent liberals to justify your own lust for brownshirt violence and a fascist coup.

What's not straight about that? You're a fascist propagandist. Again, I'm being very straightforward.

I don't have to ask if you got a tingle when Trump bragged about ordering an extrajudicial killing, or when he told his brownshirt mobs to descend on polling places. We all know you did.

You are now dumber than SHE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED, and probably even more unprincipled than JoeB, and that is saying alot.

I'm not up on your secret cult lingo. Who is SWMNBN?

Now go back to your hole and jerk off to AGW agitprop.

A common trait of conspiracy cult nutters is that they don't just fall for one reality-defying conspiracy theory. Due to their gullible nature, the one that allowed the cult to sucker them in, they fall for all of the conspiracy theories. Your authoritarian cult has a whole bucket of idiot conspiracy theories that the cultists are ordered to believe and parrot. AGW denial is one, violent liberals is one, liberals attempted a coup is one, and so on. You're all off in your own very special reality.

 

[martybegan]

You will never give a straight answer,

I just gave a straight answer by saing "yours", so now you look kind of insane and dishsonest.

You're faking stories of violent liberals to justify your own lust for brownshirt violence and a fascist coup.

What's not straight about that? You're a fascist propagandist. Again, I'm being very straightforward.

I don't have to ask if you got a tingle when Trump bragged about ordering an extrajudicial killing, or when he told his brownshirt mobs to descend on polling places. We all know you did.

You are now dumber than SHE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED, and probably even more unprincipled than JoeB, and that is saying alot.

I'm not up on your secret cult lingo. Who is SWMNBN?

Now go back to your hole and jerk off to AGW agitprop.

A common trait of conspiracy cult nutters is that they don't just fall for one reality-defying conspiracy theory. Due to their gullible nature, the one that allowed the cult to sucker them in, they fall for all of the conspiracy theories. Your authoritarian cult has a whole bucket of idiot conspiracy theories that the cultists are ordered to believe and parrot. AGW denial is one, violent liberals is one, liberals attempted a coup is one, and so on. You're all off in your own very special reality.

Who's lying about leftist violence? It's in the news every freaking day. Did those statues of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt just fall down by themselves? did that courthouse in Portland just magically spring up graffiti and improvised explosive devices?

The rest of your screed is just standard SJW deflecting and lying.

 

[Correll]

You will never give a straight answer,

I just gave a straight answer by saing "yours", so now you look kind of insane and dishsonest.

You're faking stories of violent liberals to justify your own lust for brownshirt violence and a fascist coup.

What's not straight about that? You're a fascist propagandist. Again, I'm being very straightforward.

I don't have to ask if you got a tingle when Trump bragged about ordering an extrajudicial killing, or when he told his brownshirt mobs to descend on polling places. We all know you did.

You are now dumber than SHE WHO MUST NOT BE NAMED, and probably even more unprincipled than JoeB, and that is saying alot.

I'm not up on your secret cult lingo. Who is SWMNBN?

Now go back to your hole and jerk off to AGW agitprop.

A common trait of conspiracy cult nutters is that they don't just fall for one reality-defying conspiracy theory. Due to their gullible nature, the one that allowed the cult to sucker them in, they fall for all of the conspiracy theories. Your authoritarian cult has a whole bucket of idiot conspiracy theories that the cultists are ordered to believe and parrot. AGW denial is one, violent liberals is one, liberals attempted a coup is one, and so on. You're all off in your own very special reality.

Who's lying about leftist violence? It's in the news every freaking day. Did those statues of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt just fall down by themselves? did that courthouse in Portland just magically spring up graffiti and improvised explosive devices?

The rest of your screed is just standard SJW deflecting and lying.

 

[Gdjjr]

I've seen a couple of headlines, where Trump allegedly, (which I say because I didn't read the articles, only the headlines) addressed "herd mentality"- that is *group think* (if a group can be said it thinks)- apparently it can't since we are, in fact, not a democracy, but, the culprits have convinced many (OP for instance) that we are- apparently unaware of a quite famous founders opinion- "a republic ma'am, if you can keep it"

The US is groomed for group think from birth- beginning with religion and carried into school with *conformity* being the key- so, "herd mentality" is to be expected and BTW, admired-

Yes, it can be said that the "educational system" is at fault in this grievance, but, education is merely a passing on of knowledge- the quality of knowledge has to be questioned, but isn't- the "herd" accepts it (again, see the OT by an OP).

Group think, at it's core is diametrically opposite Individual Rights- those Rights being INalienable (non-tangible) and the 14th amendment precedent (made by higher educated BTW) making UNalienable (tangible rights granted) the accepted *thinking* (?) for the group.

Does Trump represent Individual Rights? I don't think so. Has he worked to secure our Liberty? I don't think so.
Has a Democrat represented either of those traits?

POTUS is NOT a god- politicians are the devil wearing a suit and tie- an empty suit usually.
So, to the OT- how did Trump get elected? By the way it was intended- a representative vote- not a "democratic" vote.

A democracy is *mob rule*. A mob doesn't have to have superior numbers to be heard- it doesn't even have to have superior noise- it does have to have a complicit mega horn- and "herd mentality" runs amok in the MSM.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Why would people have voted for Donald Trump in 2016? There must have been something very wrong in American politics for the people to elect a candidate that had no political experience. It appeared to be a mass rejection of Washington and the insular leadership that is embedded there. Trump’s election ignited a firestorm of retaliation that included using intelligence agencies to dispense a misinformation campaign designed to create a false picture of enemy collusion. The entire operation was illegal, and no one has paid any price for what most reasonable observers would call subversion and sedition to dismantle an election.

That still does not answer the question about why the people would put an inexperienced non-politician in charge of the only truly free democracy remaining on the planet. It appears that Washington is so contaminated and spoiled that no one coming from its midst can be trusted to represent actual people living real lives in real time. The landscape has become so poisoned with discordant identity politics that individual citizens are regarded by a power structure aristocracy as lowly cattle that must not be allowed to stray from the herd.

Trump is dangerous because he encourages strays that pose a renegade threat to a managed herd of groupthink. There is no democracy in a herd, there is only the crack of the whip that drives it. Trump’s election was seen by the controlling architects as a stampede of insolence and ingratitude for the magnificence of ideological central planning. There is no room for divergent thought in a herd mentality, it must be punished with branding.

Our colleges and universities are engaged in holocaust methodology marking Caucasian citizens as damaged by birth and infectious carriers of disease that must be segregated and separated from the herd like history’s Jews. Washington is using crafted, incited racial hatred as a vehicle to drive the herd away from democracy and toward socialism.

The sellout of real democracy was nearly complete before Trump broke up the herd. The reaction of the herd drivers was swift and sure and if successful will be decisive. Democracy will submit to the whip and the herd will be led to slaughter while the band plays endless selections of political correctness.

If Trump loses democracy will just be a word in the dictionary. If Trump loses, democracy will be dead. Long live democracy.

I agree with you. Trump has put a giant dent in democracy. And the rule of law. And just common decency. The man is fundamentally corrupt. And there are investigations because of it. They are all of his own making. All of his problems are. Trump is dangerous because he has no compass, moral or otherwise. He blows in the direction of the strongest wind. And it's usually only because it benefits him personally. Trump backed into the WH by the slimmest of margins after Democrats put forth an unpopular candidate. Even then, all she had to do was campaign until the end and not even Comey's email surprise would have tipped it. Sorry. If Trump loses, democracy...recovers. If you think the disaster of the last four years, punctuated by an abysmal response to a pandemic, deserves another four years, then I don't know what America you actually believe in.

Blah, blah, blah, orange man bad, we got it.


YOUR refusal to respect the peaceful transfer of power, is the "giant dent in democracy".

And only that. Nothing Trump has done, is in any way a threat to democracy. If anything, his standing up to you and your pc bullshit and brownshirt mobs, is a great service to Democracy.

You got a short memory. I don't recall anyone on the Democrat side that night in 2016 saying that the election was "rigged" and the vote was tampered with. I don't remember any Democrat saying that they weren't going to respect the transfer of power. I remember Trump winning by 78,000 votes across three states which in my mind should have meant an automatic recount in those three states...and promptly shutdown by those three states (wonder why?). I remember the whole Russian allegations mysteriously not fully coming to light until AFTER the election. And then, I remember Trump making problem after problem for himself..why?...because he's fundamentally corrupt.

That's the dent in democracy. But as I see it, you don't care about democracy. You're quite comfortable living under a dictatorship of a strongman.

I remember people like you talking about RESIST and coups and then launching an investigation based on lies told to a federal judge and spread by a media that is a bunch of traitors, leading up to an "impeachment" that was nothing but a soft coup attempt, while brownshirt mobs kill and burn in the streets and dem led police arrest people that defend themselves.


You people are the ones killing this country.

Again, link for me one article that had any Democrat saying they wouldn't respect the transfer of power (like Trump has), or say the election of 2016 was "rigged" (like Trump has).
And for the last time there is no such thing as SOFT coup!! Stop using this term. It's either a coup or it isn't. Trump made his own problems..and there were investigations because of it.
Hell, even Bolton knew Trump had fucked up when he got off the phone. But, no harm no foul. Nothing's touched your man, except his own incompetence and corruption.
A incompetent, corrupt President. That's the death of democracy.

1. Link to them saying it? LOL!! We have seen you guys DOING it for the last 4 years!

2. Sure there is. A coup is an attempt to take control of the government normally by force. The impeachment was doing that, with lawyers and bullshit in place of troops and bullets.

So again, the answer is no. Don't worry. I already checked. There was no one.
Trump tried to leverage a foreign power to dig up dirt on his political rival.
Certainly impeachable. If Obama did it, you and the rest of right wing nation
would be screaming bloody murder for it.
Again, he did all this to himself.

 

[Invisibleflash]

OP, a lying con man got in because the filthy dems are much worse.

A vote for a dem is a vote for gun confiscation and destroy the 2A.
a vote for a dem is a vote to bankrupt any company making / selling guns or ammunition by repealing the 'Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act'
a vote for a dem is a vote to abolish the Constitution, destroy America's history and destroy America as founded.
a vote for a dem is a vote to abolish the 1A.
a vote for a dem is a vote to defund / abolish the police.
a vote for a dem is a vote to open the borders to anyone that wants to come here.
a vote for a dem is a vote to legalize 22 million illegal aliens, then give citizenship to another 40 to 60 million through chain migration of these newly minted illegal citizens.
a vote for a dem is a vote to turn America into a socialist country.
a vote for a dem is a vote to normalize and legalize pedophilia
a vote for a dem is a vote to support anarchist organizations like Antifa and BLM
a vote for a dem is a vote to promote rioting and destruction of personal property.
a vote for a dem is a vote to destroy America.

 

[bendog]

Why would people have voted for Donald Trump in 2016? There must have been something very wrong in American politics for the people to elect a candidate that had no political experience. It appeared to be a mass rejection of Washington and the insular leadership that is embedded there. Trump’s election ignited a firestorm of retaliation that included using intelligence agencies to dispense a misinformation campaign designed to create a false picture of enemy collusion. The entire operation was illegal, and no one has paid any price for what most reasonable observers would call subversion and sedition to dismantle an election.

That still does not answer the question about why the people would put an inexperienced non-politician in charge of the only truly free democracy remaining on the planet. It appears that Washington is so contaminated and spoiled that no one coming from its midst can be trusted to represent actual people living real lives in real time. The landscape has become so poisoned with discordant identity politics that individual citizens are regarded by a power structure aristocracy as lowly cattle that must not be allowed to stray from the herd.

Trump is dangerous because he encourages strays that pose a renegade threat to a managed herd of groupthink. There is no democracy in a herd, there is only the crack of the whip that drives it. Trump’s election was seen by the controlling architects as a stampede of insolence and ingratitude for the magnificence of ideological central planning. There is no room for divergent thought in a herd mentality, it must be punished with branding.

Our colleges and universities are engaged in holocaust methodology marking Caucasian citizens as damaged by birth and infectious carriers of disease that must be segregated and separated from the herd like history’s Jews. Washington is using crafted, incited racial hatred as a vehicle to drive the herd away from democracy and toward socialism.

The sellout of real democracy was nearly complete before Trump broke up the herd. The reaction of the herd drivers was swift and sure and if successful will be decisive. Democracy will submit to the whip and the herd will be led to slaughter while the band plays endless selections of political correctness.

If Trump loses democracy will just be a word in the dictionary. If Trump loses, democracy will be dead. Long live democracy.

"only I can save you" is pure democracy but it is not consistent with a republic

 

[bendog]

Democracy died with the republic when we became an empire long, long ago...

Britain was an empire and neither democracy nor their republic died. Imo what died was Jeffersonian/Jackson democracy. (both slaveholders btw) But the basic notion that an American "man" could just pull up roots and move west. He could never be forced to be "beholden" to the corporation that wanted to exploit Mexico, Cuba, Phillipines without ever giving the "natives" a vote.

But Ray's OP made a valid point (although he bought into the TrumpisJesus mindsuck) Is there a citizen politician? I'd say yes. Not a novice politician. Trump's personality defects should have disqualified him, and if he'd ever held public office before we'd have spared this assault of legit issues like immigration trade for policy not exclusive for the elites of both parties.

but Mayor Pete. Bloomberg would have been a better candidate earlier in his career. Both Bullock and Hickenlooper aren't careerists. All of whom are centrists. But the people moving the dems left are first time pols.

Reagan changed the gop, and he was not a careerists. But he did it from the inside. He converted the state parties to his econ message. Then he won the nomination. When people (me too) said he was too old. Trump may have changed the gop on how it views alliances, trade and immigration. His problem is that he can't do the job because unless we give all power to the potus, the potus is relatively weak because he doesn't actually have any legislative power