Trump administration plans to cut over 80,000 employees from Veterans Affairs

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump does not care about veterans
Never has

Slash VA staffing then use decreased VA service as an excuse to privatize the VA

The VA is being privatized slowly because they could not handle the load caused by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. My son was in Afghanistan and my daughter was in Iraq. Both are covered by the VA but my daughter has health insurance through her employer.

I was recently given the opportunity to transfer my care to my local VA clinic from my Community Care (CC) PCP. I have appointments next week and a procedure at Vanderbilt in May under the CC, referred there by my VA doctor. My VA doctor only works part-time as he is on the staff at Vanderbilt also. The earliest they said I could see my VA clinic doctor was in late June. I see my VA specialist in Nashville next week also.

 

[Moonglow]

Yeah. Most people (you being the exception of course) will actually attempt to make themselves less of a target. We have already seen it in the world of DEI (see below).

If there are ways the people in the VA can make themselves more useful or productive, many of the more intelligent ones will be motivated to do so in the interest of job security.

Federal employees quietly edit job descriptions to protect roles from DOGE scrutiny | CNN Politics

Some federal employees are quietly changing the language of job descriptions and performance reviews in an effort to protect roles and critical government functions in the face of the so-called Department of Government Efficiency.

amp.cnn.com

Their job is already hard enough with ignorance gaining traction from MAGATs assuming they know from their chair of knowledge.(The terlit)

 

[Seymour Flops]

More stupidity from the right

You are firing people for no reason and convince yourself it is because they do very little.

Blame the victim

Getting rid of the deadweight is actually a side benefit. The main reason they were fired is that they were plants from the Biden administration with the mission to do what the deep state tried to do to Trump during his first term.

 

[JGalt]

Of COURSE cutting that many people from their workforce would af de cr services and increase wait times.

And here other kicker. When it was pointed out that many of the fired workers are veterans themselves, what did the Trump Admin say?

They probably shouldn’t have had jobs in the first place

This is what you people voted for??

You'd be surprised to hear that number of veterans in the VA’s workforce is only about 25%. I go there every year for a checkup and the majority of those I talk to are civilians.

Trump administration plans to cut 80,000 employees from Veterans Affairs, according to internal memo

 

[Lesh]

You'd be surprised to hear that number of veterans in the VA’s workforce is only about 25%. I go there every year for a checkup and the majority of those I talk to are civilians.

Trump administration plans to cut 80,000 employees from Veterans Affairs, according to internal memo

So you’re good with throwing 20,000 vets out on their asses and impacting the VA’s ability to service Vets who need care because why???

 

[JGalt]

So you’re good with throwing 20,000 vets out on their asses and impacting the VA’s ability to service Vets who need care because why???

What makes you think a quarter of those 80,000 slouches are all veterans? And if someone is a crappy employee, should they get special consideration just because they're a veteran?

I'm a veteran and I can tell you that I'd be fired too, if I wasn't doing my job correctly.

 

[Lesh]

What makes you think a quarter of those 80,000 slouches are all veterans? And if someone is a crappy employee, should they get special consideration just because they're a veteran?

I'm a veteran and I can tell you that I'd be fired too, if I wasn't doing my job correctly.

Mass firings have nothing to do with whether workers are doing there jobs.

It’s just cutring for the sake of cutting. There’s no way evaluations have been made on that short span of time.

And yes… many are Vets.

As noted… Vets make up 25% of the VA workforce.

And yes the WH has said “well maybe those Vets shouldn’t have jobs anyway” or words to that effect

 

[Mac-7]

That my dear, is constitutionally under Congress....our representation, not the musk-rat's or the President.

Why oh why, do you ignore our Constitution?

My suggestion is unconstitutional?

I dont think so

 

[Mac-7]

Mass firings have nothing to do with whether workers are doing there jobs.

There are too many employees and they need to go

 

[Lesh]

There are too many employees and they need to go

And you know this how? A careful study of the VA ?

When did you have the time? Where did you get the expertise?

 

[Lesh]

My suggestion is unconstitutional?

I dont think so

The executive branch doing away with agencies and programs created by Congress is unconstitutional.

And yes… gutting those agencies and programs to the point that they exist in name only is “doing away” with them

 

[Couchpotato]

The survivors of trump/musk downsizing are not going to work harder to make up for the missing workers

They will in fact do even less, or as little as possible short of getting fired, and blame any delay in services on the rif and elon musk

That's certainly possible. Part of this has to be the Government changing it's hiring and firing laws. It shouldn't take an act of Congress to get rid of a person from a Government job. Unfortunately the unions are likely far too powerful for that to happen.

 

[Lesh]

The survivors of trump/musk downsizing are not going to work harder to make up for the missing workers

They will in fact do even less, or as little as possible short of getting fired, and blame any delay in services on the rif and elon musk

You’re projecting.

That’s what YOU would do

 

[Lesh]

The VA is being privatized slowly because they could not handle the load caused by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. My son was in Afghanistan and my daughter was in Iraq. Both are covered by the VA but my daughter has health insurance through her employer.

I was recently given the opportunity to transfer my care to my local VA clinic from my Community Care (CC) PCP. I have appointments next week and a procedure at Vanderbilt in May under the CC, referred there by my VA doctor. My VA doctor only works part-time as he is on the staff at Vanderbilt also. The earliest they said I could see my VA clinic doctor was in late June. I see my VA specialist in Nashville next week also.

Which do you think costs more?

 

[Mac-7]

And you know this how? A careful study of the VA ?

When did you have the time? Where did you get the expertise?

Obviously none of us here have irrefutable knowledge about the VA

My lack of knowledge applies to you also

Trump was elected president and he and his team will decide that for all of us

 

[el midgetron]

Their job is already hard enough with ignorance gaining traction from MAGATs assuming they know from their chair of knowledge.(The terlit)

We need to redirect some of these cut positions into a new department. A department to address the public health crisis of TDS. Such a department could probably absorb 100 million workers and still not have the man power to address the scale of the issue.

 

[Mac-7]

The executive branch doing away with agencies and programs created by Congress is unconstitutional.

And yes… gutting those agencies and programs to the point that they exist in name only is “doing away” with them

The topic at the moment is the VA and trump is not abolishing it

Your complaint fails

 

[Mac-7]

That's certainly possible. Part of this has to be the Government changing it's hiring and firing laws. It shouldn't take an act of Congress to get rid of a person from a Government job. Unfortunately the unions are likely far too powerful for that to happen.

Its the unions and the civil service laws

enacted in the 19th Century but still the law

 

[Mac-7]

You’re projecting.

That’s what YOU would do

Thats what entitled GSers have always done since the French Revolution

Because of the nature of the bureaucratic beast, federal service will always be a wart on a free and rational society

The only remedy is to have as little as possible

 

[Lesh]

My suggestion is unconstitutional?

I dont think so

Congress has mandated who gets care by the VA

So yeah.. your suggestion is unconstitutional