Trump Administration Admits Defeat on COVID-19, Surrenders as Failures

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We can’t control it.
We aren’t even going to try.
You’ll have to live with it.
Have some hydroxychloroquine.
Up yours, cupcake. NO ONE can CONTROL a virus, ever WILL control a virus--- has anyone controlled the COLD virus, dipshit? Has anyone controlled the ordinary FLU virus, asshole? We live with the cold, we live with the flu, we live with all kinds of things because we HAVE TO, and the only way you are ever going to "beat" Covid-19 is to find an effective vaccine for it which we are already doing everything humanly possible for, or develop a herd immunity to it, which you can't do without gradual exposure to it.
You can't reason with facts when you deal with a Dumbocrat. All they see and hear is the DNC propaganda and they block out everything else.
 

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It was never not going to spread until herd immunity was reached.

Lockdowns are worthless, face diapers are worthless.

Grow the fuck up and learn to live with it.
Not going to learn to live with hundreds dead every day. You will comply with lawful orders to mask.
Right... because lunatic lefties tell us to? Who is going to enforce that when we say no? You and the BLM amifa beta boys? What will you say when 2020 ends & all cause deaths show the "pandemic" was in reality just a dempanic? :slap:
Easy.
  • Pass a public mask law with a minimum dollar amount - $50, $100...whatever
  • Every Law Enforcement agency must enforce
  • Tickets must have bodycam proof
  • Law Enforcement agency gets 100% of the revenue - this will encourage compliance by police
That can only be done at the state level according to SCOTUS rulings, dimwit.
Most state governors won't do it because it's bad for business and voters object.
 

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Translation:

HEY - IGNORE the Biden Corruption Scandal - LOOK OVER HERE...
Translation:
Yep, we and our supporters screwed the country on containment and control of the biggest, most infectious, deadliest pandemic in 100 years, so all we got is a last minute scandal about Biden's kid. Everybody likes scandal to divert attention, so vote for us and we will give you more. Good luck on the virus, as you will get no leadership from us. It is election year. Winning more important than people dying.
It was never going to not spread....H1N1 was just as deadly.

Get over it and grow up.
But a Democrat was in charge, so the U.S. won that battle.
A Democrat was in charge of the Vietnam War, a guy named Johnson, and we lost it.
A Democrat was in charge of the Korean War and all we got was a truce.
 

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Translation:

HEY - IGNORE the Biden Corruption Scandal - LOOK OVER HERE...
Translation:
Yep, we and our supporters screwed the country on containment and control of the biggest, most infectious, deadliest pandemic in 100 years, so all we got is a last minute scandal about Biden's kid. Everybody likes scandal to divert attention, so vote for us and we will give you more. Good luck on the virus, as you will get no leadership from us. It is election year. Winning more important than people dying.
What would you have done differently? The places where strict lockdowns took place had the most spread? Can you name one pro, college or HS athlete who has died from COVID anywhere in the world? Just one. Thank you.



College football player dies of COVID-19 complications 'Chad was beloved by all his teammates': Davidson County basketball player, 19, dies from COVID-19 complications
Puyallup High School graduate dies of COVID-19 complications

Eli Sevener played football and baseball and graduated in 2019.

Here are a few example of what you asked about. Why concentrate on young athletes? Middle aged and older Americans not worth your concern? Makes you sound like a trump supporter.
ALL three of the links say they died of COVID-19 COMPLICATIONS, which suggest an underlying health issue.

The CDC have showed that only 6% of all China Virus related deaths, was from the virus infection itself.
Yah, yah, yah, and most people that die because of regular flue actually die of pneumonia caused by getting the flu. People have conditions that they live with fine until something like this strikes. You cannot win this argument, unless you are going to just go ahead and exterminate every body with any type of medical conditions and then start adding up your pure count of Covid dead. Doubt you are going to change many death certificates.
You cannot win this argument at all...You are the one insisting that what clearly isn't working continue to be done.

You are, by definition, insane.
Take your meds and blow me.
Translation: "I am insane and have no argument".
Translation you made your little amateur diagnosis ( typical trumpian BS) and cannot prove it, so blow me, Clown.
Your hatred for Trump has blinded you. You are irrational like AOC.
Your love of Trump has blinded you. You are irrational as any cultist follower. Enjoy the Kool-Aide.
No “e” in Kool Aid and no my hatred of lying Democrats has me all in against them and their lies. My kids are still home because of their bullshit worry and teachers and politicians still getting paid fully for not doing their jobs. I ask Again, what would you have done differently than Trump? Democrats are liars with their fake Russia conspiracy bullshit and now blaming Trump for this instead of China.
I said it in an earlier post today. Not going to look it up. You do it.
Why not? It’s your post? Pretty rude. You going to put me on ignore too like the cowardly OP? Amazing how Democrats don’t want to debate but just want an echo chamber.
Hey Azog. It popped up in my alerts, something I post at 11:48 this morning, so I copied it. I just did not want to have to look it up and ain't on the payroll. Here ya go. :
I would have taken some of the same steps, but leveled with the American People, not just favored investment groups. I would have set the example of masking, distancing, and used the bully pulpit to attack those that tried to rally support for ignoring the science as health, we were taught in high school. Trump should have rallied his supporters to fight the virus, not health officials. I definitely would not have suggested various dumb assed treatments, such as internal cleansers, sunlight, or made assurance it would end when warm weather came. I would not have held spreader events against the recommendation of health experts. I would not have made fun of people for masking. I would not have nationalized PPE purchased and on the way to hospitals early in the epidemic, to turn over to selected wholesalers to be sold for higher profits. He was a bad leader in time of crises and that is all that counts. Anybody can play leader when the going is easy. When the chips are down is the only time that counts. Heck, he wasn't that great when times were supposed to be easy. Trump being trump is what got him impeached.
But initially the CDC and the surgeon general said masks were bad?
Initially, I think they were trying to make sure their first responders and hospital front line personnel were covered. They were masking in other countries at that time. Doctors are always masking to protect patients from infection and have worn masks to protect themselves (as possible) from the illnesses of patients. It is kind of elementary, old school, first line protection, especially with diseases that cause coughing. This isn't some new age, just discovered medical technique. Even if it is carried on breath without droplet projected by cough, it keeps it from going as far and some are indeed caught clinging to the fibers in the mask, including non-surgical masks. Any is better than none in my book.
No. They said wearing masks mean you touch your face too much and hence would spread the virus. They didn’t know if it was air-born and thought you d get it by touching your face if you recall. Fauci, Birx, WHO were all wrong but we are blaming Trump.
Hey, like I said, the masking thing is one of the elementary things learned in health and used for generations. It did not take a scientist with a Phd to tell me it was the right way to go this year. Even the little Asian woman coughing her way down the aisle of the plain I was on before I got sick was trying to cover her mouth (just not succeeding) and made me wish I had a mask at the time. Damn sure wished I had, had one 5 days later.
Again lockdowns dont work and masks for life is unrealistic.
What is it that bothers you about a mask. Are you claustrophobic? They do not bother me. Was in Lowes again yesterday in a narrow Hardware aisle for a screw-in hook. Immediate behind me was an old guy with a bad dry sounding cough and every time he breathed out it was a hard houghhhh s sound and visible shoulder slump. Suspect he is screwed, but he was masked and I was definitely glad I was masked. I swear Azog, if you ever worked, climbed, crawled, fired, loaded a tank, just did the normal things that sometime make up a day as a tanker for 8 or 10 hours, in full Military Operational Protective Posture 4, (which includes a gas mask, charcoal lined suit, hood, boots and rubber gloves to the elbows) a little cloth dbl or triple layer face mask would not seem like anything. Life ain't just a bowl of cherries, ya know, and it will get back to normal sooner or later.
Masks don’t bother me. What bothers me is hypocrisy. Leftists keep yelling to trust science and then they tell me that gender is a construct and ignore science and logical people like you still vote blue. Fucking insanity.
Jeez, the kinks came out with Lola in 1970 and this crap is still bugging the heck out of you? My daughter is 4 years older than you are. I am supposed to be the one stuck in his ways here. Just stay out of the wrong bars and if you are on the internet, don't go to that site. :auiqs.jpg:
Wrong. My kids plays sports and they are girls and now they are stuck playing vs trans girls. Why? Because society has gone mad. So now we only trust the science when it’s convenient? I see. All you people are so illogical.
Normal little girls playing against chicks with dicks is not fair. They really ought to have a league of their own, doubt if Tom Hanks would coach, but Madonna would probably be up to play.
Democrats are hypocrites. Want you to wear masks and social distance unless they are “peacefully protesting”. Want you to trust science unless it’s inconvenient for them. Great people..and you vote for them. Sadly.
I don't always vote for them, only when the republicans want to swing too far or do something to damage my stable position. I didn't take up peaceful protest for the year either. I will say, I saw a lot of masked people at times, at the sometimes peaceful protests. Wondered if they were more about hiding their identity, so they wouldn't lose their day job, as peaceful did not seem to last past sundown.
I understand what you are saying, but the fact is most of the democrats were not out there protesting peaceful or otherwise, just like most of the republicans were not out there in Boogaloo, Proud Boys, or random militia BDUs, ALICE gear and loaded for armageddon. If you listen to either of the echo chambers, that is just how it was presented as it suited their respective, un respectable narratives.
Science is not your enemy. At some level, you know this. It is just fashionable to dis science in the current political atmosphere. I had multiple Multiple MRIs two years ago and then my surgeon went into my leg and knee, harvesting parts to make other parts and put me back together. I have the DVD of the complete MRI series from two states on my solid state computer hard drive, that I view on my flat screen monitor. My older brother had triple bypass open heart surgery the year before that, to correct a problem that would have been a death when we were kids. I was born in 1954. This crap did not exist back then. It was science fiction. Now it is science fact.
You missed my point. Hypocrisy is the enemy. Are you even paying attention?

--- Trust science unless it comes to transgender issues
--- Wear masks unless you're protesting and burning shit but we will call it a myth
--- Don't use your majority to confirm a supreme court justice but we will to impeach the President


My issue is hypocrisy and you completely missed it with your diatribe. If we don't even listen to one another then what is the point?
Hypocrisy is one of the hall marks of politics on both sides, and at present as in the past both sides are guilty as I charge. I listen, but both sides over blow their case. Actual reality is somewhere in the middle, as it has always been.
I have never seen it this blatant and to me it screams that they believe that voters are stupid. I am smarter than they are. They will not get my vote and I will spread my message so many more vote RED.
I have heard this charge of hypocrisy on both sides since I was 12. If you think back, so have you. Don't over react and call it new or higher level. It is not.
Give me an example of such blatant hypocrisy from 2012. I'll wait.
 

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Did you hear the news? This pandemic is global! People in nations around the world are sick and dying, not just folks in New York.

Politics doesn't matter to a virus!
Well damn, but YOU said it's Donald Trump's fault?

How did the object of your insane hatred cause deaths in Athens or Istanbul?
 

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Lots more caskets in Killer Cuomo's state snowflake, and in the Democrat states with global leading mortality rates. You have to actually go and look the statistics for yourself lazy because the wacko press wont show them to you.
democrats NEEDED a high death count, so they seeded the nursing homes to kill the most vulnerable.

Yes, I am accusing Cuomo and Newsom of mass murder.
 

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Lots more caskets in Killer Cuomo's state snowflake, and in the Democrat states with global leading mortality rates. You have to actually go and look the statistics for yourself lazy because the wacko press wont show them to you.
democrats NEEDED a high death count, so they seeded the nursing homes to kill the most vulnerable.

Yes, I am accusing Cuomo and Newsom of mass murder.
But haven't you heard from Wackoland? It's North Dakota where they real danger is now with Covid, a real hotspot with its 461 deaths in 40,000 cases.
 

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New deaths have nothing to do with testing.
Thanks Farouk,

Deaths are WAY down, as cases are up. What does that do to your panic porn that "EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIE?"

How is your country faring?


Ohhh, not so well.

Maybe you should advise your own fucking government? I'm sure the Ayatollah will cherish your advice....
 

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Utah has 572 deaths. That's 41st in the country. They have 104,882 cases so yes their mortality rate is 5.4%. Very comparable to say a New Jersey with 16,412 deaths in 232,621 cases for a 7% mortality rate...just another 16,000 deaths and they will catch NJ! Seems someone else is talking out their pelosi....
You slipped a decimal. Utah has a .5% mortality - one half of one percent, not 5%
 

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It was never not going to spread until herd immunity was reached.

Lockdowns are worthless, face diapers are worthless.

Grow the fuck up and learn to live with it.
Screw you you ignorant asshole. Getting dressed for a funeral. My uncle. His ignorant ass kids were just like your stupid ass. Face diapers are worthless. The stupid fawks came to their parents house, no mask, Covid contagious, and now their Dad is DEAD. Meanwhile, my family follows strict Covid protocols, including masks, lockdowns, hand-washing, social distance. There have been exposures, protective measures were implemented, and WE ARE ALL STILL ALIVE. I can tell you what Covid-19 is, darwinism, plain and simple. A couple more years and Republicans will be a strong minority, most of the older ignorant fawks will be DEAD.
 

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/——-/ Earth to Libtards— Earth to Libtards—- there is no cure for a virus —— no vaccine is 100% effective or safe—— you’re causing more harm than good —— that is all.
Synthaholic would happily slaughter 90% of human life on earth to put his filthy party in power. The dims don't care how much harm they are causing.
 

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Utah has 572 deaths. That's 41st in the country. They have 104,882 cases so yes their mortality rate is 5.4%. Very comparable to say a New Jersey with 16,412 deaths in 232,621 cases for a 7% mortality rate...just another 16,000 deaths and they will catch NJ! Seems someone else is talking out their pelosi....
You slipped a decimal. Utah has a .5% mortality - one half of one percent, not 5%
Oooops you are absolutely right....wow that truly makes them a hotspot for Covid
 

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It was never not going to spread until herd immunity was reached.

Lockdowns are worthless, face diapers are worthless.

Grow the fuck up and learn to live with it.
Screw you you ignorant asshole. Getting dressed for a funeral. My uncle. His ignorant ass kids were just like your stupid ass. Face diapers are worthless. The stupid fawks came to their parents house, no mask, Covid contagious, and now their Dad is DEAD. Meanwhile, my family follows strict Covid protocols, including masks, lockdowns, hand-washing, social distance. There have been exposures, protective measures were implemented, and WE ARE ALL STILL ALIVE. I can tell you what Covid-19 is, darwinism, plain and simple. A couple more years and Republicans will be a strong minority, most of the older ignorant fawks will be DEAD.
Any older person has to take measures for any infectious disease not just Covid. Everyone knows this
 

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What is it that bothers you about a mask. Are you claustrophobic? They do not bother me. Was in Lowes again yesterday in a narrow Hardware aisle for a screw-in hook. Immediate behind me was an old guy with a bad dry sounding cough and every time he breathed out it was a hard houghhhh s sound and visible shoulder slump. Suspect he is screwed, but he was masked and I was definitely glad I was masked. I swear Azog, if you ever worked, climbed, crawled, fired, loaded a tank, just did the normal things that sometime make up a day as a tanker for 8 or 10 hours, in full Military Operational Protective Posture 4, (which includes a gas mask, charcoal lined suit, hood, boots and rubber gloves to the elbows) a little cloth dbl or triple layer face mask would not seem like anything. Life ain't just a bowl of cherries, ya know, and it will get back to normal sooner or later.
When you breath through a mask, you collect bacteria on the surface and it breads.

You're putting a germ factory on your face.

Don't wear them unless needed. As a social statement of compliance to our rulers, they are not a positive.
Change masks and buy a new on once in a while. Did you keep using the same condom repeatedly?
How can you basement hiders afford new masks when you aren't working?
I don't actually have a basement. Just got back from going out and leaving again in a few minutes. I broke out a new one just today. I planned ahead to make sure income streams would be in place. You should try it. It may not be too late. I don't work. It hasn't been necessary for years.
I wear a mask when I dry and grind peppers, not outside or at work.
I don't wear one outside or in the car, but do if going inside businesses or government offices. Businesses highly recommended and often required by the businesses. Government offices strictly required. I have no problem with that. Cannot say about work as it is no longer necessary and I have better things to do.
For peppers the mask works, for viruses not at all.
Democrat mask wearing states have the highest infection and death rates remember??
We have a much lower death rate than infection rate, ranked nationally and have had since the beginning, here in the deep red state of Tennessee. At least until lately. Yesterday were were #3 on new cases and #3 on newly dying from it, though overall killed after contracting the virus #21 in the nation. I will continue to mask and continue to not let masking, distancing and good hygiene bother me, today and after the election. Glad the election is near. As it may be deemed to give cover to those that might want to start taking care of themselves and looking out for those around them.
Yep more cases is not bad thing
#3 in daily death count, not too impressive. Rather it was like the 47 or more other states and territories including the Blue states. Oops. That was yesterdays, numbers. Today we are #1 on the daily death count, and #4 on new cases.
 

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We can’t control it.
We aren’t even going to try.
You’ll have to live with it.
Have some hydroxychloroquine.


In the long term, that's absolutely correct. The social distancing and closures were instituted to "flatten the curve", not eliminate the disease. Its silliness to think that viruses can be legislated out of existence. Of course, Mr. Biden is entering his 2nd childhood and is as silly as they come- thinking that calling the voters "chumps" is the way to get their votes.
 

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What is it that bothers you about a mask. Are you claustrophobic? They do not bother me. Was in Lowes again yesterday in a narrow Hardware aisle for a screw-in hook. Immediate behind me was an old guy with a bad dry sounding cough and every time he breathed out it was a hard houghhhh s sound and visible shoulder slump. Suspect he is screwed, but he was masked and I was definitely glad I was masked. I swear Azog, if you ever worked, climbed, crawled, fired, loaded a tank, just did the normal things that sometime make up a day as a tanker for 8 or 10 hours, in full Military Operational Protective Posture 4, (which includes a gas mask, charcoal lined suit, hood, boots and rubber gloves to the elbows) a little cloth dbl or triple layer face mask would not seem like anything. Life ain't just a bowl of cherries, ya know, and it will get back to normal sooner or later.
When you breath through a mask, you collect bacteria on the surface and it breads.

You're putting a germ factory on your face.

Don't wear them unless needed. As a social statement of compliance to our rulers, they are not a positive.
Change masks and buy a new on once in a while. Did you keep using the same condom repeatedly?
How can you basement hiders afford new masks when you aren't working?
I don't actually have a basement. Just got back from going out and leaving again in a few minutes. I broke out a new one just today. I planned ahead to make sure income streams would be in place. You should try it. It may not be too late. I don't work. It hasn't been necessary for years.
I wear a mask when I dry and grind peppers, not outside or at work.
I don't wear one outside or in the car, but do if going inside businesses or government offices. Businesses highly recommended and often required by the businesses. Government offices strictly required. I have no problem with that. Cannot say about work as it is no longer necessary and I have better things to do.
For peppers the mask works, for viruses not at all.
Democrat mask wearing states have the highest infection and death rates remember??
We have a much lower death rate than infection rate, ranked nationally and have had since the beginning, here in the deep red state of Tennessee. At least until lately. Yesterday were were #3 on new cases and #3 on newly dying from it, though overall killed after contracting the virus #21 in the nation. I will continue to mask and continue to not let masking, distancing and good hygiene bother me, today and after the election. Glad the election is near. As it may be deemed to give cover to those that might want to start taking care of themselves and looking out for those around them.
Yep more cases is not bad thing
#3 in daily death count, not too impressive. Rather it was like the 47 or more other states and territories including the Blue states. Oops. That was yesterdays, numbers. Today we are #1 on the daily death count, and #4 on new cases.
What, with 31? You guy test a lot as far as cases and have a 7% positive case result to tests....
 

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What is it that bothers you about a mask. Are you claustrophobic? They do not bother me. Was in Lowes again yesterday in a narrow Hardware aisle for a screw-in hook. Immediate behind me was an old guy with a bad dry sounding cough and every time he breathed out it was a hard houghhhh s sound and visible shoulder slump. Suspect he is screwed, but he was masked and I was definitely glad I was masked. I swear Azog, if you ever worked, climbed, crawled, fired, loaded a tank, just did the normal things that sometime make up a day as a tanker for 8 or 10 hours, in full Military Operational Protective Posture 4, (which includes a gas mask, charcoal lined suit, hood, boots and rubber gloves to the elbows) a little cloth dbl or triple layer face mask would not seem like anything. Life ain't just a bowl of cherries, ya know, and it will get back to normal sooner or later.
When you breath through a mask, you collect bacteria on the surface and it breads.

You're putting a germ factory on your face.

Don't wear them unless needed. As a social statement of compliance to our rulers, they are not a positive.
Change masks and buy a new on once in a while. Did you keep using the same condom repeatedly?
How can you basement hiders afford new masks when you aren't working?
I don't actually have a basement. Just got back from going out and leaving again in a few minutes. I broke out a new one just today. I planned ahead to make sure income streams would be in place. You should try it. It may not be too late. I don't work. It hasn't been necessary for years.
I wear a mask when I dry and grind peppers, not outside or at work.
I don't wear one outside or in the car, but do if going inside businesses or government offices. Businesses highly recommended and often required by the businesses. Government offices strictly required. I have no problem with that. Cannot say about work as it is no longer necessary and I have better things to do.
For peppers the mask works, for viruses not at all.
Democrat mask wearing states have the highest infection and death rates remember??
We have a much lower death rate than infection rate, ranked nationally and have had since the beginning, here in the deep red state of Tennessee. At least until lately. Yesterday were were #3 on new cases and #3 on newly dying from it, though overall killed after contracting the virus #21 in the nation. I will continue to mask and continue to not let masking, distancing and good hygiene bother me, today and after the election. Glad the election is near. As it may be deemed to give cover to those that might want to start taking care of themselves and looking out for those around them.
Yep more cases is not bad thing
#3 in daily death count, not too impressive. Rather it was like the 47 or more other states and territories including the Blue states. Oops. That was yesterdays, numbers. Today we are #1 on the daily death count, and #4 on new cases.
Today you have 32 deaths
 

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Again, they don't currently have the lowest mortality rates. You can ignore this all you want, but your avoidance is not going to alter reality...


And by "diaper," you mean this...?

Hey Farouk, was Hunter Biden wearing a mask when he was raping his 14 year old niece?
 

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