Tricked Into Voting For Anti-Americans

[PoliticalChic]

Communism has won. Vote Democrat, and you support Karl Marx over George Washington.
How did this happen?
Shortest answer? Misdirection.

Hard to fathom, but through control of the school system and the media, and a constant repetition, the Left has been able to have the less astute focus on grievances rather than the loss of freedom.




1. Let's get to specifics.
For purposes of accuracy, this thread will use 'Communists' and 'Liberals' interchangeably.

Here's why:
The goals and aims of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are indistinguishable.



"Communist Party USA Chairman Vows Cooperation With Democratic Party
The chairman of the National Committee of the Communist Party USA has penned a 2,023-word manifesto making the critical point that American Communists are eager to work with the Democratic Party to advance the modern communist agenda and achieve communist goals.

Communist Party chairman John Bachtell published his essay last week at People’s World, a “daily news website of, for and by the 99% and the direct descendant of the Daily Worker.”
Communist Party USA Work With Democrats The Daily Caller

As this premise is undeniable with respect to facts and logic, I fully expect those who have been tricked- 'misdirected'- into accepting the aims and doctrines of communists, I fully expect ire and chagrin to be their only avenue of response.





2. Lest any imagine that any Leftist category is not covered by the above précis ...

"The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.


a. The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!”
Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century”




So.....Communists....the actual Marxists, Bolsheviks, sociopaths.....found allies from the start... "The progressive left, and the liberal left"
And they built on this.

More to come.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You've already lost this argument 20 times. Give up. Quit making a fool of yourself.

 

[JakeStarkey]

 

[Mac1958]

 

[NYcarbineer]

Communism has won. Vote Democrat, and you support Karl Marx over George Washington.
How did this happen?
Shortest answer? Misdirection.

Hard to fathom, but through control of the school system and the media, and a constant repetition, the Left has been able to have the less astute focus on grievances rather than the loss of freedom.




1. Let's get to specifics.
For purposes of accuracy, this thread will use 'Communists' and 'Liberals' interchangeably.

Here's why:
The goals and aims of the Communist Party and the Democrat Party are indistinguishable.



"Communist Party USA Chairman Vows Cooperation With Democratic Party
The chairman of the National Committee of the Communist Party USA has penned a 2,023-word manifesto making the critical point that American Communists are eager to work with the Democratic Party to advance the modern communist agenda and achieve communist goals.

Communist Party chairman John Bachtell published his essay last week at People’s World, a “daily news website of, for and by the 99% and the direct descendant of the Daily Worker.”
Communist Party USA Work With Democrats The Daily Caller

As this premise is undeniable with respect to facts and logic, I fully expect those who have been tricked- 'misdirected'- into accepting the aims and doctrines of communists, I fully expect ire and chagrin to be their only avenue of response.





2. Lest any imagine that any Leftist category is not covered by the above précis ...

"The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.


a. The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!”
Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century”




So.....Communists....the actual Marxists, Bolsheviks, sociopaths.....found allies from the start... "The progressive left, and the liberal left"
And they built on this.

More to come.

You're voting for a serial adulterer, a rapist, a con artist, and a trafficker in undocumented slave labor.

Pretending that Hillary Clinton is a Communist is a weak deflection from your own reprehensibility.

 

[Seawytch]

Great satire!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Low energy PolticalChic doesn't seem to have her past fanaticism turned up to 11 anymore.

I think this horse is almost broken.

 

[Sunni Man]

Progressivism is just Commie lite. ........

 

[Pilate]

Yeah well, your very very clever first amendment allows people the right to undermine your country and system of governance. Clever founding fathers!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now...about that 'misdirection' of the easily led...


3. Part of the communist victory is in convincing the mass of voters that there are vast differences between themselves, Liberals, and Progressives, and communism.

There may be this: the hardcore supervised and participated in the slaughter of over 100 million men, women and children...and....possibly, American dupes might not have gone along with the entire program....

.....on the other hand, they voted for a President who put innocent American citizens in concentration camps.....and still worship him.


a. Need I remind that Communist John Dewey stole the name 'Liberal" and applied it to 'Socialist'
So...historically, if you cling to 'Liberalism,' you're supporting 'Socialism.'

Dewey, who corrupted the entire educational system, forcing children into Left wing lock step.....was a hero to the Bolsheviks.
Communists, socialists, and Liberals and Progressives.....all four work in opposition to America's founding principles: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


As a central doctrine, no Leftist view accepts individualism: it is collectivism, and lock-step acceptance for all.



4. Progressives saw WWI as an opportunity to change America and enforce collectivization. “In 1917, as Woodrow Wilson prepared to take the United States into the European war, the leading collectivist intellectuals of the day, John Dewey and Herbert Croly of The New Republic, beat the drums for American participation. …Dewey wrote that .... they should exploit the opportunities war bestowed for collectivizing America. Croly was pithier: “The American nation needs the tonic of a serious moral adventure.” http://fff.org/freedom/fd0203c.asp


a.“Once the war is on, the conviction spreads that individual thought is helpless, that the only way one can count is as a cog in the great wheel. There is no good holding back. We are told to dry our unnoticed and ineffective tears and plunge into the great work.” From a Randolph Bourne essay published in June 1917, “The War and the Intellectuals.”

65 million were tricked into voting as 'cogs in the great wheel' of Obamunism.


b.Dewey reveled in the thought that the war might force Americans to “give up much of our economic freedom…we shall have to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.” http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-op-goldberg20jan20,1,3087455.column




The birthright of an American is freedom of thought, freedom of conscience, private property....in short, individualism.

It is promised in the first amendment.

Communists have actually managed to convince huge numbers that these are unnecessary.



How they did so....we'll get to that.

 

[Tom Horn]

You've already lost this argument 20 times. Give up. Quit making a fool of yourself.

She's ground you out like a cigarette butt every time you've confronted her so who's the fool, fool?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Islamism and jihadism are progressive Muslim movements, because they wish to create a theocracy, fusion of state and mosque.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Great satire!

I was about to ask if you'd read the book that I quoted by Dr. Paul Kengor......this:

"The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.

The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!”
Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century”



Then I remembered that Liberals don't read books.

"Liberals don't read books – they don't read anything … That's why they're liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."
Coulter

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC, just know I will be there for you when they come to get you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. So....we find that Communists, Liberals, Socialists, and Progressives find it essential to beat 'individualism' out of the American psyche.



Compare that to the following:

"We can see that all elements of the socialist ideal--the abolition of private property, family, hierarchies; the hostility toward religion--could be regarded as a manifestation of one basic principle: the suppression of individuality.... All this is inspired by one principle--the destruction of individuality or, at least, its suppression to the point where it would cease to be a social force. "
Igor Shafarevich
The Socialist Phenomenon The Socialist Phenomenon by Igor Shafarevich




It's a package deal.....vote for communists, Liberals, socialists, Progressives....in short, Democrats....and you vote for "the abolition of private property, family, hierarchies; the hostility toward religion--could be regarded as a manifestation of one basic principle: the suppression of individuality."




Now, ask yourself how you've been tricked into this abyss.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. So confident of their victory, the KGB actually admitted the agenda:


"The ultimate objective of the new policy and of the activity of such an instrument of this policy as the Novosti Press Agency is not to learn more secrets about the adversary, and not even to teach the masses in the West in the spirit of Marxist-Leninist ideology, but to slowly replace the free-market capitalist society, with its individual freedoms in economic and socio-political spheres of life-- with a carbon copy of the “most progressive” system, and eventually merge into one world-wide system ruled by a benevolent bureaucracy which they call Socialism (or Communism, as the final and supreme stage of this “progress.”)

To effect this gradual change, it is much easier and less painful (and less noticeable for the populace) to change the perceptions of reality, attitudes, patterns of behavior and to create wide-spread demands and expectations, leading ultimately to the acceptance of totalitarianism. Thus the media is the main target of manipulation by the KGB-controlled “independent, non-government, non-political, public organization” known as the Novosti Press Agency."
Yuri Bezmenov's (aka Tomas Schuman) World Thought Police.
Useless Dissident: World Thought Police: Part One



Again??

"....replace the free-market capitalist society, with its individual freedoms....merge into one world-wide system ruled by a benevolent bureaucracy which they call Socialism (or Communism, as the final and supreme stage of this “progress.”)....change the perceptions of reality, attitudes, patterns of behavior ...leading ultimately to the acceptance of totalitarianism. "

Soooo....you were fooled into voting for this?
Pretty smart, huh?




Yuri Bezmenov worked as a "journalist" for Novosti Press Agency, which was a disinformation and propaganda agency controlled by the Soviet non-military intelligence agency (commonly known as the KGB).

 

[NYcarbineer]

6. So confident of their victory, the KGB actually admitted the agenda:


"The ultimate objective of the new policy and of the activity of such an instrument of this policy as the Novosti Press Agency is not to learn more secrets about the adversary, and not even to teach the masses in the West in the spirit of Marxist-Leninist ideology, but to slowly replace the free-market capitalist society, with its individual freedoms in economic and socio-political spheres of life-- with a carbon copy of the “most progressive” system, and eventually merge into one world-wide system ruled by a benevolent bureaucracy which they call Socialism (or Communism, as the final and supreme stage of this “progress.”)

To effect this gradual change, it is much easier and less painful (and less noticeable for the populace) to change the perceptions of reality, attitudes, patterns of behavior and to create wide-spread demands and expectations, leading ultimately to the acceptance of totalitarianism. Thus the media is the main target of manipulation by the KGB-controlled “independent, non-government, non-political, public organization” known as the Novosti Press Agency."
Yuri Bezmenov's (aka Tomas Schuman) World Thought Police.
Useless Dissident: World Thought Police: Part One



Again??

"....replace the free-market capitalist society, with its individual freedoms....merge into one world-wide system ruled by a benevolent bureaucracy which they call Socialism (or Communism, as the final and supreme stage of this “progress.”)....change the perceptions of reality, attitudes, patterns of behavior ...leading ultimately to the acceptance of totalitarianism. "

Soooo....you were fooled into voting for this?
Pretty smart, huh?




Yuri Bezmenov worked as a "journalist" for Novosti Press Agency, which was a disinformation and propaganda agency controlled by the Soviet non-military intelligence agency (commonly known as the KGB).

How can she possibly think this is an intelligent argument? How deep in the weeds do you have to be to start thinking the above makes sense?

 

[BlindBoo]

Turning tricks?

Communism and liberalism are two different political ideologies. Communism cannot be termed liberalism and liberalism cannot be termed as communism as the two have distinct features that separate them.

Liberalism is an ideology that believes in individual freedom. Liberalism is a political ideology that thinks that an individual is free from all interferences and restrictions. On the other hand, communism does not give any emphasis to individual freedom. Communism is a political ideology that stands for equality of all. Communism pertains to the welfare of the society or community. It stands for a stateless or class less society.



Read more: Difference Between Communism and Liberalism | Difference Between Difference Between Communism and Liberalism

 

[PoliticalChic]

Turning tricks?

Communism and liberalism are two different political ideologies. Communism cannot be termed liberalism and liberalism cannot be termed as communism as the two have distinct features that separate them.

Liberalism is an ideology that believes in individual freedom. Liberalism is a political ideology that thinks that an individual is free from all interferences and restrictions. On the other hand, communism does not give any emphasis to individual freedom. Communism is a political ideology that stands for equality of all. Communism pertains to the welfare of the society or community. It stands for a stateless or class less society.



Read more: Difference Between Communism and Liberalism | Difference Between Difference Between Communism and Liberalism

"Communism and liberalism are two different political ideologies."

Not hardly.


Double dog dare you to take the quiz:

Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Turning tricks?

Communism and liberalism are two different political ideologies. Communism cannot be termed liberalism and liberalism cannot be termed as communism as the two have distinct features that separate them.

Liberalism is an ideology that believes in individual freedom. Liberalism is a political ideology that thinks that an individual is free from all interferences and restrictions. On the other hand, communism does not give any emphasis to individual freedom. Communism is a political ideology that stands for equality of all. Communism pertains to the welfare of the society or community. It stands for a stateless or class less society.



Read more: Difference Between Communism and Liberalism | Difference Between Difference Between Communism and Liberalism

"Communism and liberalism are two different political ideologies."

Not hardly.


Double dog dare you to take the quiz:

Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Conservatives want to defend religious freedom? lol, tell that to Muslim-Americans.