“Travis told police Arbery “squared up” like he was going to attack.” So he shot him in the chest.

[jc456]

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.
Which one is the aggressor?

There is no running, no proof of any criminal activity in this scenario just Person A who raises and points his firearm at Person B and Person B who responds to having the firearm pointed at him by rushing Person A and attempting to take his weapon.

Which one is the aggressor? And why?

you never watched the video either huh?

 

[colfax_m]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

BTW, did the black dude grab the gun? yes or no? still unwilling to take that leap huh? too fking funny. chicken shit ain't you?

Yes, he did. He grabbed the gun after McMichael shot him.

 

[Faun]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

Where is the proof that the person you're pointing your weapon at, Person B, is either violent or a criminal?

Well he’s running from a possible felony, and he running right at him with fist flying

No, you keep changing the parameters of the scenario. Again, the question was

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.
Which one is the aggressor?

There is no running, no proof of any criminal activity in this scenario just Person A who raises and points his firearm at Person B and Person B who responds to having the firearm pointed at him by rushing Person A and attempting to take his weapon.

Which one is the aggressor? And why?

You can’t take someone’s property away because you don’t like
It lol

Of course you can when they're threatening your life.

It’s protecting a life, which is he right,, it wouldn’t have happened if he didn’t trespass on a dwelling with an intention to steal

You have no evidence he intended to steal and since they never said they saw him on that property that day, yes, it would have happened anyway since all they saw was him running down their street.

Who cares they would have had the police investigate that’s why they asked him to stop while on the phone with the police

The law cares, that's who. You can't see someone doing nothing other than running down your street and then attempt to detain them at gunpoint for police.

It's why they're facing murder charges. It's why you're too ignorant to comprehend why.

Of course you can, they were just asking him to stop until the cops came,, if he did nothing wrong why Assault the hero?

Nope, it's not legal for private citizens to order someone to do something at gunpoint.

Like I said fine them lol

They will be fined ... in the form of prison time. Possibly the death penalty for Travis. Either by lethal injection or by putting him in gen pop.

 

[Faun]

As he comes at me flying with his fist I open fire to protect myself that is my right

Pause the video, take a snapshot of the frame from where you think you see AA flying at TM with flying fists BEFORE TM opened fire and shot AA in the chest. And post it

here’s TrumpO’s 538 poll numbersView attachment 350995

Why are you posting polling data? Lol the boy got what he deserved.

Now Travis will get what he deserves...

Why because of the color of his skin?

No, because he's a murderer.

It wasn’t pre-meditated there was no malice it was simple self-defense number maybe manslaughter

False. He committed a felony ( false imprisonment) which led to a homicide. That's murder 2nd degree.

Where did you see an attempted to arrest him? The father was in the truck on the phone with the cops, why wouldn’t he get out and take down the the boy?

They cut him off because they were trying to detain him.

Did the car grow hand cuffs?? Wow that’s a cool car

No, that was the purpose of brandishing a shotgun.

Don’t go in to dwellings your not allowed in and you won’t get a shot gun pointed at you

Oh, so if that negro hadn't gone into a neighborhood where he wasnt wanted, the rednecks wouldn't have had to have murdered him. It is his fault.

if the negro hadn't rushed the man with the gun he wouldn't have got shot. it is simple, watch the video.

By that token, had Travis not pulled out a gun, Arbery would not have been shot. Travis is responsible for that gun and what he did with it.

 

[Faun]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

BTW, did the black dude grab the gun? yes or no? still unwilling to take that leap huh? too fking funny. chicken shit ain't you?

Yeah, after he was shot.

 

[colfax_m]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?

Savage physical attack

Self defense against someone threatening someone else's life with a lethal weapon is often savage. It's self preservation.

No one told arbery to attack him he was just holding a gun asking him to stop, if he was going to shoot it would have happened at a distance

Couldn't happen at a distance because Bryan was behind Arbery and risked being shot.

Than he could have ran to a different angle,, and he didn’t

He didn't have time. It was only a matter of seconds when Arbery had reached his truck.

3 steps, a southerner with a shot gun would have nailed they boy East.. but there was NO INTENTION TO KILL . It was clear self defense

Travis forfeited his right to engage in lethal self-defense.

Why because he’s white?

No, because he provoked the attack.

Now stop being a racist.

Don’t be a criminal and you
Won’t get provoked

What did they see him commit?

Running from the dwelling he shouldn’t have been in

Can you provide the statute he violated?

God damned this board is over run with retards. Even if they had seem him trespassing , that's a MISDEMEANOR and Georgia law does NOT allow for citizen arrests for misdemeanors.

Where did you see an arrest attempt? They asked him to stop until the cops came.

If you walk into a bank holding a shotgun and said $1000, that’s not asking.

 

[jc456]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

they never showed any gun until they got out of the truck and stood in the street. the dude in the truck bed had a phone, not a gun. you should watch the video.

Nope. Dude in the bed had a 357 Magnum. Guy in the car has a shotgun, which as you admitted, was known to Arbery the second he got out of the truck holding it.

So Arbery was completely aware that he was being chased by armed men commanding him to lay on the ground.

nope, had a phone talking to the police, son watch the video.

 

[jc456]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

BTW, did the black dude grab the gun? yes or no? still unwilling to take that leap huh? too fking funny. chicken shit ain't you?

Yes, he did. He grabbed the gun after McMichael shot him.

or, he grabbed the gun that made it discharge. watch the video.

 

[colfax_m]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

they never showed any gun until they got out of the truck and stood in the street. the dude in the truck bed had a phone, not a gun. you should watch the video.

Nope. Dude in the bed had a 357 Magnum. Guy in the car has a shotgun, which as you admitted, was known to Arbery the second he got out of the truck holding it.

So Arbery was completely aware that he was being chased by armed men commanding him to lay on the ground.

nope, had a phone talking to the police, son watch the video.

Are you saying he lied to the police when he said he had a 357 magnum?

Either way, we both agree that Arbery was pursued by armed men and Arbery was aware of that.

So you don’t have any argument left.

 

[jc456]

Are you pointing it at a violent criminal until the police come? Person B

what violent crime did TM see AA commit that day?

Savage physical attack

Self defense against someone threatening someone else's life with a lethal weapon is often savage. It's self preservation.

No one told arbery to attack him he was just holding a gun asking him to stop, if he was going to shoot it would have happened at a distance

Couldn't happen at a distance because Bryan was behind Arbery and risked being shot.

Than he could have ran to a different angle,, and he didn’t

He didn't have time. It was only a matter of seconds when Arbery had reached his truck.

3 steps, a southerner with a shot gun would have nailed they boy East.. but there was NO INTENTION TO KILL . It was clear self defense

Travis forfeited his right to engage in lethal self-defense.

Why because he’s white?

No, because he provoked the attack.

Now stop being a racist.

Don’t be a criminal and you
Won’t get provoked

What did they see him commit?

Running from the dwelling he shouldn’t have been in

Can you provide the statute he violated?

God damned this board is over run with retards. Even if they had seem him trespassing , that's a MISDEMEANOR and Georgia law does NOT allow for citizen arrests for misdemeanors.

Where did you see an arrest attempt? They asked him to stop until the cops came.

If you walk into a bank holding a shotgun and said $1000, that’s not asking.

huh?

 

[colfax_m]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

BTW, did the black dude grab the gun? yes or no? still unwilling to take that leap huh? too fking funny. chicken shit ain't you?

Yes, he did. He grabbed the gun after McMichael shot him.

or, he grabbed the gun that made it discharge. watch the video.

That’s not in the video. The first shot is obscured by the car. You’re making things up now.

 

[jc456]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

they never showed any gun until they got out of the truck and stood in the street. the dude in the truck bed had a phone, not a gun. you should watch the video.

Nope. Dude in the bed had a 357 Magnum. Guy in the car has a shotgun, which as you admitted, was known to Arbery the second he got out of the truck holding it.

So Arbery was completely aware that he was being chased by armed men commanding him to lay on the ground.

nope, had a phone talking to the police, son watch the video.

Are you saying he lied to the police when he said he had a 357 magnum?

Either way, we both agree that Arbery was pursued by armed men and Arbery was aware of that.

So you don’t have any argument left.

I didn't say he didn't have a gun, it just wasn't in his hands.

 

[jc456]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

BTW, did the black dude grab the gun? yes or no? still unwilling to take that leap huh? too fking funny. chicken shit ain't you?

Yes, he did. He grabbed the gun after McMichael shot him.

or, he grabbed the gun that made it discharge. watch the video.

That’s not in the video. The first shot is obscured by the car. You’re making things up now.

which way was the black man running at the time of discharge? I can put him at the gun.

 

[jc456]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

they never showed any gun until they got out of the truck and stood in the street. the dude in the truck bed had a phone, not a gun. you should watch the video.

Nope. Dude in the bed had a 357 Magnum. Guy in the car has a shotgun, which as you admitted, was known to Arbery the second he got out of the truck holding it.

So Arbery was completely aware that he was being chased by armed men commanding him to lay on the ground.

nope, had a phone talking to the police, son watch the video.

Are you saying he lied to the police when he said he had a 357 magnum?

Either way, we both agree that Arbery was pursued by armed men and Arbery was aware of that.

So you don’t have any argument left.

the black dude didn't know of any gun until he ran toward the truck as it sat parked in the street with no one chasing him.

 

[colfax_m]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

they never showed any gun until they got out of the truck and stood in the street. the dude in the truck bed had a phone, not a gun. you should watch the video.

Nope. Dude in the bed had a 357 Magnum. Guy in the car has a shotgun, which as you admitted, was known to Arbery the second he got out of the truck holding it.

So Arbery was completely aware that he was being chased by armed men commanding him to lay on the ground.

nope, had a phone talking to the police, son watch the video.

Are you saying he lied to the police when he said he had a 357 magnum?

Either way, we both agree that Arbery was pursued by armed men and Arbery was aware of that.

So you don’t have any argument left.

I didn't say he didn't have a gun, it just wasn't in his hands.

You said the man in the bed didn’t have a gun. He did. You never specified it was in his hands or not. I believe it was on his hip in a holster. Could be wrong.

Either way, we both agree Arbery knew that the men pursuing him and commanding him to lie on the ground were armed.

So you don’t have an argument left.

 

[colfax_m]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

they never showed any gun until they got out of the truck and stood in the street. the dude in the truck bed had a phone, not a gun. you should watch the video.

Nope. Dude in the bed had a 357 Magnum. Guy in the car has a shotgun, which as you admitted, was known to Arbery the second he got out of the truck holding it.

So Arbery was completely aware that he was being chased by armed men commanding him to lay on the ground.

nope, had a phone talking to the police, son watch the video.

Are you saying he lied to the police when he said he had a 357 magnum?

Either way, we both agree that Arbery was pursued by armed men and Arbery was aware of that.

So you don’t have any argument left.

the black dude didn't know of any gun until he ran toward the truck as it sat parked in the street with no one chasing him.

Roddy was pursuing him from behind. McMichael got infront of him. McMichael has already been pursuing Arbery. They were not randomly stopped there. Arbery knee this. I don’t know why you think it’s relevant that Arbery didn’t know about the shotgun until McMichael got out.

 

[jc456]

You said the man in the bed didn’t have a gun. He did. You never specified it was in his hands or not. I believe it was on his hip in a holster. Could be wrong.

Either way, we both agree Arbery knew that the men pursuing him and commanding him to lie on the ground were armed.

So you don’t have an argument left.

not when the black man ran at the truck, he didn't. he had a phone. the gun was in the truck in the bed. he bent over and picked it up after the third shot went off. you should actually watch the video. Fk, how many times do I have to tell you that?

Guess why he eventually picked it up? it's simple.

 

[jc456]

Roddy was pursuing him from behind. McMichael got infront of him.

nope, never. you should watch the video.

 

[Faun]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

BTW, did the black dude grab the gun? yes or no? still unwilling to take that leap huh? too fking funny. chicken shit ain't you?

Yes, he did. He grabbed the gun after McMichael shot him.

or, he grabbed the gun that made it discharge. watch the video.

Travis says he shot him before Arbery grabbed the gun. Were you there? If not, who the **** are you to argue?

 

[Faun]

How are you defining "aggressor

The one that initiated the confrontation with the gun when AA attacked the man with it.

That's not a definition so let's try this.

Person A points a loaded firearm at Person B.
Person B responds by rushing Person A and attempting to take the firearm from him.

Who is the aggressor, Person A or Person B?

He rushed him when he was legally holding a gun,, good nite

It's not legal for private citizens to use lethal weapons to make people get on the ground.

And when did that happen?

As Arbery approached thd truck.

Did the gun grow arms and legs, and take him down? Lol

The arms and legs belonged to Travis McMichael, who brandished a firearm in a failed attempt to persuade Arbery to get down on the ground.

He was holding a gun asking the suspect to wait for cops.. OHHH NOOO THAT OFFENSIVE LOL

Again, that's false imprisonment.

You can't hold someone against their will so the cops can see if they are wanted or something.

when did they do that?

When they chased him down with their truck holding guns and telling him to stop and get on the ground.

they never showed any gun until they got out of the truck and stood in the street. the dude in the truck bed had a phone, not a gun. you should watch the video.

Nope. Dude in the bed had a 357 Magnum. Guy in the car has a shotgun, which as you admitted, was known to Arbery the second he got out of the truck holding it.

So Arbery was completely aware that he was being chased by armed men commanding him to lay on the ground.

nope, had a phone talking to the police, son watch the video.

Are you saying he lied to the police when he said he had a 357 magnum?

Either way, we both agree that Arbery was pursued by armed men and Arbery was aware of that.

So you don’t have any argument left.

I didn't say he didn't have a gun, it just wasn't in his hands.

It was after the first shot was fired.