Transgender diagnosis

[Conservative65]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

You should do some reading on the subject before asking such a stupid question!


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It's still a mental disorder whether you believe it or not.

You can believe whatever the **** you want. I think ignorance is a mental disorder

You can believe that someone can be the opposite gender if you want, and there are only 2 options, because they feel like it. It doesn't change that anyone doing so has a mental disorder that needs to be addressed nor enabled by encouraging them.

 

[miketx]

This is vitally important to you. Your concern for trans people is touching.

I see, so because I have a problem with people mutilating their genitals and being pumped full of unnatural hormones I have no compassion for thans people?

Thanks for that.

The thing is that you children out there now being pumped full of hormones and "transitioning". If adults like Herbert Garrison are doing it, that's one thing. An adult can make an adult decision and suffer the consequences. For children, its a different story entirely. They are supposed to be somewhat protected from their Stupidity.

You're showing your ignorance as usual. Children are not transitioned. They may me given hormones to delay puberty so then that can make an informed decision when they are old enough.

Wants to drug kids and turn them into faggots. you should be in prison.

So did Republicans. When was it an issue before? And yet, now it is. But, I have seen no guards posted up at the public bathrooms. Lol! Can we now say they are full of shit? Of course we can.

And what about the posted family bathrooms? What do the bigots do about boys who are in girls bodies or visa versa?

You delusional, there are no such things.

 

[Conservative65]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

You should do some reading on the subject before asking such a stupid question!


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I should do some reading?

Nice rebuttal.

It's all that you deserve. I would try to school you on the complexities of the transgender issue but I am not certified in special ed. I doubt that you have the intellectual capacity or the curiosity to benefit from anything more that I could post and strongly suspect that you are too invested in your willful ignorance to even read it if I did

A transgender is on the same level of mental illness as a schizophrenic.

Where did you get your degree in psychiatry , Dude?

If you need a psychiatrist to tell you that someone thinking they're the opposite of only 2 possible genders because they claim to be has a mental disorder, you have a mental disorder. The suicide rate for transgenders is about 41%. The hope is that it gets higher and the quicker the better.

 

[Ame®icano]

The mentally ill gets a "new vagina".



1:22 "you have the most beautiful vagina in the whole wide world"
2:18 "I am excited for Jazz to see her vagina"
5:28 "overnight my vagina suddenly changed"

Notice how many times they call it "vagina" when it isn't.
How do I get off this ride? Sickening. Disgusting.

It's actually a section of bowel. The male to female surgery uses the penis to form the vaginal canal. Jazz has been on hormones since he was 11. His penis never developed. Other tissue had to be used. They used a section of bowel. This tissue will produce mucosa which will have an odor, like bowels.

It was on the show. The whole discussion.

That is nasty!

What's even nastier is... Let's say Jazz meets "the guy" who goes down and eats his "most beautiful vagina in whole wide world". He would be eating a combination of inestinal lining mucus, blood, scabs, and literal shit that seeps down from "her" colon.

Jazz is sexless, or asexual. He has no sexual attraction to anyone. The hormones he took since he was 11 robbed him of the ability to experience sexual pleasure. I recall a couple of years ago, Jazz said he was feeling an attraction to girls. His hormones were adjusted and the feeling went away. So there will be no guy eating out the most beautiful vagina in the world. Nor woman and likely not even masturbation is available.

I don't know, since I don't watch the show, but I doubt there is a way to remove attraction to something by adjusting the hormones. Wouldn't the hormone adjustments be used on everyone, if that is possibility? Curing the gayness perhaps?

What I find funny is, how Jazz got his "vagina" was international news, then the endless pain and suffering afterwards leaves him basically alone. The LGBTQ "community" is there only when you feel happy, otherwise they couldn't care less about your mental problems (on which they're also stocked up themselves), and will probably push you to suicide to get you to stop ruining their image and to crocodile cry some more over a trans death afterwards.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Actually, I DO understand biology.

A Tranny may have his penis cut off, but he will never truly be a broad. He can't get knocked up, can't get pregnant and can't have an abortion. The really truth is that he is just a mutilated male, and will always be colloquially referred to as a "***" or "queer".

Your bigotry and ignorance will stay with you until you die, unfortunately. You have nothing intelligent or informative to debate. Take a hike.

ah, yes, Rules for Radicals, call them a name and hope they will run away.

You certainly failed the challenge to debate the science. Now move along sonny. There are sharper knives in the box than you.

Diversion, it is the way of a liberal, after they call you a name.

And being Liberal has zero to do with this thread. Meaning, you have nothing intelligent to debate. Say bye top all the folks. No one has any interest in your off topic bigotry.

Liberalism has everything to do with this thread. With Liberalism/Marxism, you first must destroy everything that is normal and moral, once that is done, then you can corrupt anyone into doing anything, as we keep seeing time again, with the NEW normal.
1st it was homosexuality, because 2 consenting adults just love each other...Immoral, unnatural.
2nd, it was bi-sexuality, because 3 consenting adults just love each other..immoral, unnatural and perverted as hell.
now we are seeing an increase in pedophilia from the left, because they want to corrupt the young and indoctrinate them to EVIL.

 

[miketx]

Your bigotry and ignorance will stay with you until you die, unfortunately. You have nothing intelligent or informative to debate. Take a hike.

ah, yes, Rules for Radicals, call them a name and hope they will run away.

You certainly failed the challenge to debate the science. Now move along sonny. There are sharper knives in the box than you.

Diversion, it is the way of a liberal, after they call you a name.

And being Liberal has zero to do with this thread. Meaning, you have nothing intelligent to debate. Say bye top all the folks. No one has any interest in your off topic bigotry.

Liberalism has everything to do with this thread. With Liberalism/Marxism, you first must destroy everything that is normal and moral, once that is done, then you can corrupt anyone into doing anything, as we keep seeing time again, with the NEW normal.
1st it was homosexuality, because 2 consenting adults just love each other...Immoral, unnatural.
2nd, it was bi-sexuality, because 3 consenting adults just love each other..immoral, unnatural and perverted as hell.
now we are seeing an increase in pedophilia from the left, because they want to corrupt the young and indoctrinate them to EVIL.

 

[Ame®icano]

Liberalism has everything to do with this thread. With Liberalism/Marxism, you first must destroy everything that is normal and moral, once that is done, then you can corrupt anyone into doing anything, as we keep seeing time again, with the NEW normal.
1st it was homosexuality, because 2 consenting adults just love each other...Immoral, unnatural.
2nd, it was bi-sexuality, because 3 consenting adults just love each other..immoral, unnatural and perverted as hell.
now we are seeing an increase in pedophilia from the left, because they want to corrupt the young and indoctrinate them to EVIL.

I agree with this.

Lefties are trying to push an agenda and everything that could possibly damage that agenda must be censored or ignored. You will come to find that most of the people who push the LGBT cause don't actually care about the "victims" themselves, but they rather hate cis people. It's the reason why they're pushing this degeneracy in the first place, to destabilize the system and the "normal" people living in it.

Left don't care about the poor, they just hate the rich.
Left don't care about ethnic minorities, they just hate the whites.

 

[beautress]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

Votto, some people are born with both female and male organs, think it's one in about 2000 live births though I really don't remember exactly, but there are a lot of people who are sexually confused for God only knows why, because most of us neither go there nor have been swept there, somehow. I'm guessing it could be a much more modern day problem with free information flowing from every outlet, but so far, we just don't know why a "normal" looking person makes a decision to change his or her gender.

I'm with the school of thought that it's chemical, whether by birth or a chemical change which has an onset at a later stage in life. We do not know or cannot accept what scientific knowledge is out there that points to the truth of this matter. Hitler's SS used murder to get rid of the problem. It's too bad they didn't try prayer.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

You should do some reading on the subject before asking such a stupid question!


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I think the assumption here is that scientists have more knowledge about science than I do because I'm not a scientist. That would be correct, but that does not mean that they will always be right about science and not me, does it.

Additionally, it was not long ago that scientists labeled this a disorder, so it is not just me saying this, it is science.

I assume you further postulate that any new teachings in science are superior to old ones, as if a change in thought or teaching is due only to increased understanding.

But historically we see this not to always be the case. Just look at the turn of the 20th century when science embraced eugenics. Hitler was the climax of this pursuit, and yes, it was all based upon new science. After Hitler, however, it fell out of favor.

Shocking, I know.

No, I am postulating that science trumps assumptions and speculation that was the norm before the scientific breakthroughs were made. People assumed that the earth was flat and 6,00 years old before science proved otherwise. However, there are those who still think that it's flat and 6,000 years old.

As far as the term "disorder" is concerned. It is in fact only terminology Call it what you want. The real issue here is ….is it "all in their heads" or is there a biological basis for it. Science is pointing to the later.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

still a mental disorder whether you believe it or not.

You have offered ZERO (that I have seen) unbiased, scientific, factual evidence to back up that claim.

And you saying it is in NO WAY makes it that way.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

The distinction between male and female is based on objective observable, provable, biological and morphological differences. It is obvious, on its face, that for someone to have all the morphological characteristics of one sex, and to claim to be the opposite sex, indicates a serious delusional mental defect. To claim otherwise is an extraordinary claim, and your side cannot even produce ordinary—much less extraordinary—proof to support it. No matter what bogus studies you cite, the fact remains that a “transgender” still has the genetic and biological markets of h'orsh'/it's true sex, and none of the “gender” that h'orsh'/it claims.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

You should do some reading on the subject before asking such a stupid question!


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I should do some reading?

Nice rebuttal.

It's all that you deserve. I would try to school you on the complexities of the transgender issue but I am not certified in special ed. I doubt that you have the intellectual capacity or the curiosity to benefit from anything more that I could post and strongly suspect that you are too invested in your willful ignorance to even read it if I did

A transgender is on the same level of mental illness as a schizophrenic.

Where did you get your degree in psychiatry , Dude?

If you need a psychiatrist to tell you that someone thinking they're the opposite of only 2 possible genders because they claim to be has a mental disorder, you have a mental disorder. The suicide rate for transgenders is about 41%. The hope is that it gets higher and the quicker the better.

Have you ever stopped to reflect on why you're so threatened by the existence of transsexuals nd so resistant to the science behind it? Yes they are self destructive at a higher rate than others BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU and the difficulties that they face in society.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Liberalism as a mental disorder has what to do with the Biological argument for Transgenders? You lost us from the beginning.

It certainly takes a severely-disordered mind to believe that a man is, or can become, a woman, or vice versa.

How many conservatives do you see promoting this belief?

 

[miketx]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

You should do some reading on the subject before asking such a stupid question!


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I think the assumption here is that scientists have more knowledge about science than I do because I'm not a scientist. That would be correct, but that does not mean that they will always be right about science and not me, does it.

Additionally, it was not long ago that scientists labeled this a disorder, so it is not just me saying this, it is science.

I assume you further postulate that any new teachings in science are superior to old ones, as if a change in thought or teaching is due only to increased understanding.

But historically we see this not to always be the case. Just look at the turn of the 20th century when science embraced eugenics. Hitler was the climax of this pursuit, and yes, it was all based upon new science. After Hitler, however, it fell out of favor.

Shocking, I know.

No, I am postulating that science trumps assumptions and speculation that was the norm before the scientific breakthroughs were made. People assumed that the earth was flat and 6,00 years old before science proved otherwise. However, there are those who still think that it's flat and 6,000 years old.

As far as the term "disorder" is concerned. It is in fact only terminology Call it what you want. The real issue here is ….is it "all in their heads" or is there a biological basis for it. Science is pointing to the later.

Science is nothing more than assumptions and speculation until they assume and speculate enough to reproduce what they are doing and prove it.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Have you ever stopped to reflect on why you're so threatened by the existence of transsexuals nd so resistant to the science behind it? Yes they are self destructive at a higher rate than others BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU and the difficulties that they face in society.

There is no science behind it.

Science is absolutely clear about the distinction between male and female.

All that you are demonstrating is what I have long been saying, that when a LIbEral speaks of “science”, that the word is rarely used to mean what sane people understand it to mean.

Trannies are self-destructive, not because of any way that they are externally-treated by society. They are self-destructive because their minds are defective; and will be no more or less defective no matter how anyone treats them.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Liberalism has everything to do with this thread. With Liberalism/Marxism, you first must destroy everything that is normal and moral, once that is done, then you can corrupt anyone into doing anything, as we keep seeing time again, with the NEW normal.
1st it was homosexuality, because 2 consenting adults just love each other...Immoral, unnatural.
2nd, it was bi-sexuality, because 3 consenting adults just love each other..immoral, unnatural and perverted as hell.
now we are seeing an increase in pedophilia from the left, because they want to corrupt the young and indoctrinate them to EVIL.

I agree with this.

Lefties are trying to push an agenda and everything that could possibly damage that agenda must be censored or ignored. You will come to find that most of the people who push the LGBT cause don't actually care about the "victims" themselves, but they rather hate cis people. It's the reason why they're pushing this degeneracy in the first place, to destabilize the system and the "normal" people living in it.

Left don't care about the poor, they just hate the rich.
Left don't care about ethnic minorities, they just hate the whites.

Left don't care about the poor, they just hate the rich.

You must not think that they hate the rich...They love the rich, when it is themselves that are rich, they just dont want to share any of it, with the rest of us. Look at Bernie(the socialist) Sanders, who owns three $600,000 houses , yet everyone else is supposed to be taxed into poverty...

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

You should do some reading on the subject before asking such a stupid question!


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I think the assumption here is that scientists have more knowledge about science than I do because I'm not a scientist. That would be correct, but that does not mean that they will always be right about science and not me, does it.

Additionally, it was not long ago that scientists labeled this a disorder, so it is not just me saying this, it is science.

I assume you further postulate that any new teachings in science are superior to old ones, as if a change in thought or teaching is due only to increased understanding.

But historically we see this not to always be the case. Just look at the turn of the 20th century when science embraced eugenics. Hitler was the climax of this pursuit, and yes, it was all based upon new science. After Hitler, however, it fell out of favor.

Shocking, I know.

No, I am postulating that science trumps assumptions and speculation that was the norm before the scientific breakthroughs were made. People assumed that the earth was flat and 6,00 years old before science proved otherwise. However, there are those who still think that it's flat and 6,000 years old.

As far as the term "disorder" is concerned. It is in fact only terminology Call it what you want. The real issue here is ….is it "all in their heads" or is there a biological basis for it. Science is pointing to the later.

Science is nothing more than assumptions and speculation until they assume and speculate enough to reproduce what they are doing and prove it.

Genetic testing is not based on assumptions

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Genetic testing is not based on assumptions

If you perform genetic testing on a “trans woman”, will the results indicate h'orsh'/it to be male or female?

 

[whitehall]

It's not physical and there is no evidence that it's genetic so what's left?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Genetic testing is not based on assumptions

If you perform genetic testing on a “trans woman”, will the results indicate h'orsh'/it to be male or female?

I am still waiting for someone to do a genetic material test on the Williams sisters(brothers) , but no one can get close to their DNA at the tennis courts. They keep their bottles and towels never throwing anything that they have into the crowd.

 

[miketx]

Is Being Transgender a Mental Disorder?

It used to be that being diagnosed as transgender was considered to be a mental illness, but not today.

Why?

If it is not a disorder then why the need to flood the body with foreign hormones and mutilate perfectly healthy genitals?

You should do some reading on the subject before asking such a stupid question!


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I think the assumption here is that scientists have more knowledge about science than I do because I'm not a scientist. That would be correct, but that does not mean that they will always be right about science and not me, does it.

Additionally, it was not long ago that scientists labeled this a disorder, so it is not just me saying this, it is science.

I assume you further postulate that any new teachings in science are superior to old ones, as if a change in thought or teaching is due only to increased understanding.

But historically we see this not to always be the case. Just look at the turn of the 20th century when science embraced eugenics. Hitler was the climax of this pursuit, and yes, it was all based upon new science. After Hitler, however, it fell out of favor.

Shocking, I know.

No, I am postulating that science trumps assumptions and speculation that was the norm before the scientific breakthroughs were made. People assumed that the earth was flat and 6,00 years old before science proved otherwise. However, there are those who still think that it's flat and 6,000 years old.

As far as the term "disorder" is concerned. It is in fact only terminology Call it what you want. The real issue here is ….is it "all in their heads" or is there a biological basis for it. Science is pointing to the later.

Science is nothing more than assumptions and speculation until they assume and speculate enough to reproduce what they are doing and prove it.

Genetic testing is not based on assumptions

Moron, the path that led up to it was.