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The answer to my question is he doesn’t understand trade, like most people who think tariffs will work.
As I’ve pointed out here numerous times, the trade deficit is a function of the capital deficit in this country, ie we don’t have enough savings to fund our spending. So we have to import capital. To fund this capital, we MUST run a trade deficit. And we’ve never saved less than we are now. It’s basic macroeconomics.
Thinking raising taxes on trade, ie tariffs, solves this problem misunderstands the nature of the problem.
BTW, I saw a graphic a few days ago estimating that China is now ~30% more expensive as a manufacturing economy than Mexico. That’s mostly due to the rise of labor costs in China.
BTW, I saw a graphic a few days ago estimating that China is now ~30% more expensive as a manufacturing economy than Mexico. That’s mostly due to the rise of labor costs in China.
Mostly due to transportation costs. The Achilles heel of China has always been logistics - it's the other side of the globe. Mexico is next door.
/---/ Trouble with South America is the countries are so corrupt, you'd have to pay off every public official to do business. Then, the countries might so Socialist and nationalize the business as they did in Venezuela. As much as I hate Commies, they are better than SA. Better yet, reform the tax, enviro, and labor laws so we can do the work in the USA.Bring the manufacturing from China to Central America. Fairly cheap labor and it would give them jobs so that they wouldn't be needing to come up here.View attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
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I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
Mexico is not China. The US focus is to get manufacturing out of China. While bringing it back home would be ideal, with the insane environmental regulations in America that isn't going to happen in most cases. Mexico is a vastly better alternative to China.
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Mostly this is driven by Mexico falling into recession due to the Wuhan virus and not buying consumer goods.
That used to be true but it’s not anymore.
Wages have gone way up in China, and a lot of low-end manufacturing is leaving China for lower cost regions such as Vietnam.
That’s what happened with the other ASEAN countries when manufacturing moved from places like Korea and Taiwan to China.
Well come to a urban area some timeI didn’t think you did, The building standards urban areas have bylaw Eliminates any type of manufacturing going to any urban area if you eliminate these ridiculous standards you would have tons of business is bidding to get into areas where they can get the product out to a Huge amount of people saving billions and millions from shipping from China and trucking.Cool what major urban city do you live in??Democrats run these areas own land refuse to allow this type of construction.. they want blacks to starve offWe have huge urban communities that would love to build these.. this is what urban areas are for we need manufacturing.. but because of fake global alarmist they kill off poor AmericansView attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
We do and we should. We have known this for decades. All we get is lip service. Wall Street isn't interested and Wall Street runs the country.
No one has refused to allow "this type of construction". Sheesh.
You are projecting.
I don't at the moment but I was born in Cleveland Ohio. Where I live is irrelevant though.
You are lying.
Well come to a urban area some timeI didn’t think you did, The building standards urban areas have bylaw Eliminates any type of manufacturing going to any urban area if you eliminate these ridiculous standards you would have tons of business is bidding to get into areas where they can get the product out to a Huge amount of people saving billions and millions from shipping from China and trucking.Cool what major urban city do you live in??Democrats run these areas own land refuse to allow this type of construction.. they want blacks to starve offWe have huge urban communities that would love to build these.. this is what urban areas are for we need manufacturing.. but because of fake global alarmist they kill off poor AmericansView attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
We do and we should. We have known this for decades. All we get is lip service. Wall Street isn't interested and Wall Street runs the country.
No one has refused to allow "this type of construction". Sheesh.
You are projecting.
I don't at the moment but I was born in Cleveland Ohio. Where I live is irrelevant though.
You are lying.
companies are looking for other suppliers (by other I mean other than CHINA)-----------and Mexico is the big winner in this. This means that mexican wages will go up and that they need workers---------so we shouldn't be taking in other immigrants from south of the border EXCePT that we have welfare which is the real reason why the illegals flood over here.View attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
Prove me wrong,, tell me the emission standards for a new building in an urban area like Boston.. than compare it to what A manufacturing plant without out put. I’ll waitWell come to a urban area some timeI didn’t think you did, The building standards urban areas have bylaw Eliminates any type of manufacturing going to any urban area if you eliminate these ridiculous standards you would have tons of business is bidding to get into areas where they can get the product out to a Huge amount of people saving billions and millions from shipping from China and trucking.Cool what major urban city do you live in??Democrats run these areas own land refuse to allow this type of construction.. they want blacks to starve offWe have huge urban communities that would love to build these.. this is what urban areas are for we need manufacturing.. but because of fake global alarmist they kill off poor AmericansView attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
We do and we should. We have known this for decades. All we get is lip service. Wall Street isn't interested and Wall Street runs the country.
No one has refused to allow "this type of construction". Sheesh.
You are projecting.
I don't at the moment but I was born in Cleveland Ohio. Where I live is irrelevant though.
You are lying.
I do all the time but that doesn't change the fact that you lied about the facts.
lol. Proof right wingers don't believe in free market Capitalism only their socialism on a national and international basis which y'all also don't want to pay for with real times of war tax rates. Tax cut economics is cognitive dissonance in economic action, right wingers. Only right wingers allege they are not really like that in socialism threads.We are in trade wars and democrats side with the enemy.. NEVER FORGET
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Prove me wrong,, tell me the emission standards for a new building in an urban area like Boston.. than compare it to what A manufacturing plant without out put. I’ll waitWell come to a urban area some timeI didn’t think you did, The building standards urban areas have bylaw Eliminates any type of manufacturing going to any urban area if you eliminate these ridiculous standards you would have tons of business is bidding to get into areas where they can get the product out to a Huge amount of people saving billions and millions from shipping from China and trucking.Cool what major urban city do you live in??Democrats run these areas own land refuse to allow this type of construction.. they want blacks to starve offWe have huge urban communities that would love to build these.. this is what urban areas are for we need manufacturing.. but because of fake global alarmist they kill off poor AmericansView attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
We do and we should. We have known this for decades. All we get is lip service. Wall Street isn't interested and Wall Street runs the country.
No one has refused to allow "this type of construction". Sheesh.
You are projecting.
I don't at the moment but I was born in Cleveland Ohio. Where I live is irrelevant though.
You are lying.
I do all the time but that doesn't change the fact that you lied about the facts.
Capitalism is between two agreeing people.. I don’t agree with Mexicans.. I’m Americanlol. Proof right wingers don't believe in free market Capitalism only their socialism on a national and international basis which y'all also don't want to pay for with real times of war tax rates. Tax cut economics is cognitive dissonance in economic action, right wingers. Only right wingers allege they are not really like that in socialism threads.We are in trade wars and democrats side with the enemy.. NEVER FORGET
I already told you you said it’s not true prove me wrong, at least try to win one argumentProve me wrong,, tell me the emission standards for a new building in an urban area like Boston.. than compare it to what A manufacturing plant without out put. I’ll waitWell come to a urban area some timeI didn’t think you did, The building standards urban areas have bylaw Eliminates any type of manufacturing going to any urban area if you eliminate these ridiculous standards you would have tons of business is bidding to get into areas where they can get the product out to a Huge amount of people saving billions and millions from shipping from China and trucking.Cool what major urban city do you live in??Democrats run these areas own land refuse to allow this type of construction.. they want blacks to starve offWe have huge urban communities that would love to build these.. this is what urban areas are for we need manufacturing.. but because of fake global alarmist they kill off poor AmericansView attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
We do and we should. We have known this for decades. All we get is lip service. Wall Street isn't interested and Wall Street runs the country.
No one has refused to allow "this type of construction". Sheesh.
You are projecting.
I don't at the moment but I was born in Cleveland Ohio. Where I live is irrelevant though.
You are lying.
I do all the time but that doesn't change the fact that you lied about the facts.
It was your claim, not mine. It's up to you to prove what you said. You can't.
I already told you you said it’s not true prove me wrong, at least try to win one argumentProve me wrong,, tell me the emission standards for a new building in an urban area like Boston.. than compare it to what A manufacturing plant without out put. I’ll waitWell come to a urban area some timeI didn’t think you did, The building standards urban areas have bylaw Eliminates any type of manufacturing going to any urban area if you eliminate these ridiculous standards you would have tons of business is bidding to get into areas where they can get the product out to a Huge amount of people saving billions and millions from shipping from China and trucking.Cool what major urban city do you live in??Democrats run these areas own land refuse to allow this type of construction.. they want blacks to starve offWe have huge urban communities that would love to build these.. this is what urban areas are for we need manufacturing.. but because of fake global alarmist they kill off poor AmericansView attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
We do and we should. We have known this for decades. All we get is lip service. Wall Street isn't interested and Wall Street runs the country.
No one has refused to allow "this type of construction". Sheesh.
You are projecting.
I don't at the moment but I was born in Cleveland Ohio. Where I live is irrelevant though.
You are lying.
I do all the time but that doesn't change the fact that you lied about the facts.
It was your claim, not mine. It's up to you to prove what you said. You can't.
Just facts. Who’s nextI already told you you said it’s not true prove me wrong, at least try to win one argumentProve me wrong,, tell me the emission standards for a new building in an urban area like Boston.. than compare it to what A manufacturing plant without out put. I’ll waitWell come to a urban area some timeI didn’t think you did, The building standards urban areas have bylaw Eliminates any type of manufacturing going to any urban area if you eliminate these ridiculous standards you would have tons of business is bidding to get into areas where they can get the product out to a Huge amount of people saving billions and millions from shipping from China and trucking.Cool what major urban city do you live in??Democrats run these areas own land refuse to allow this type of construction.. they want blacks to starve offWe have huge urban communities that would love to build these.. this is what urban areas are for we need manufacturing.. but because of fake global alarmist they kill off poor AmericansView attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
We do and we should. We have known this for decades. All we get is lip service. Wall Street isn't interested and Wall Street runs the country.
No one has refused to allow "this type of construction". Sheesh.
You are projecting.
I don't at the moment but I was born in Cleveland Ohio. Where I live is irrelevant though.
You are lying.
I do all the time but that doesn't change the fact that you lied about the facts.
It was your claim, not mine. It's up to you to prove what you said. You can't.
What you say is worth very little.
View attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
No job or field is safe from foreign competition. Third World nations are aiming to compete in higher end products, AND other first world nations, such a Europe, Japan, South Korea, are all just as aggressive in aiming to get the jobs for their citizens.
We need to be as aggressive in pursuit of our economic interests as the rest of the world is, or we will always be their bitch.
Germany doesn't allow a German company to leave the country and then sell their lower priced items in Germany.
View attachment 398655
US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
I've heard him put a lot of attention on the issue. Doesn't seem to have been enough. Maybe he needs to give up on negotiations and just put the tariff hammer down, hard.
You want him to enact more taxes on consumers?
I want him to protect American Manufacturing workers from having to compete on a level playing field with Third World labor making 3.50 an hour.
It's American manufacturers that are exploiting that labor to start with.
Maybe. I don't know or care about the ownership of the factories as much as I do the jobs.
We have ignored the value of jobs to our nation, in our trade policy for decades.
We need DECADES of pro-job policies to balance that out.
You can't do that without addressing the ownership but you say you don't care about that which in reality means you don't really care.
Sure you can.
Whether it is a Mexican company, or an International, or an American corporation, if they put the factory in Mexico, it does not have to have access to sell in America. At least not without a heavy tariff so AMERICAN MANUFACTURING WORKERS can compete.
A tax on consumers.
I was pretty clear that was my position before. My point is clear. Your talk of "ownership" did not address it, yet you acted as though it refuted it.
Are you trying to gaslight me?
Yes, you are clear you support a tax that largely hurts the lower and middle classes as opposed to addressing the companies themselves.
The consumers can easily avoid the tax by Buying American.
No they can't.
Why Americans don’t make televisions anymore
Even when you can find an exception they are "assembled" here using Chinese parts. Parts I would assume that would be taxed.
A refrigerator is a huge investment for your home, and it’s hard finding models that are made with U.S. parts and by the U.S. workforce.
Best Refrigerators Made in the USA: 2020 - All American Reviews
Again you are arguing to make things hard on consumers as opposed to addressing the companies.
You want to tell me how American labor is supposed to compete with a work force where the average wage is 3.50 an hour?
Where I retired from we did it all the time. We did it through innovation and offering the absolute best product around. Now the company did offer our product made in China but most end users rejected it because the quality was lousy.
No job or field is safe from foreign competition. Third World nations are aiming to compete in higher end products, AND other first world nations, such a Europe, Japan, South Korea, are all just as aggressive in aiming to get the jobs for their citizens.
We need to be as aggressive in pursuit of our economic interests as the rest of the world is, or we will always be their bitch.
Germany doesn't allow a German company to leave the country and then sell their lower priced items in Germany.
Ok. So you are arguing that that is what you want INSTEAD of tariffs? Cause you have not really said.
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US trade deficit with Mexico hits an all-time high – The Daily Shot
I thought Trump was going to fix this?
So did he go back on his word or does he not understand how international trade works?
You make some good points. China may be on “the other side of the globe” but the U.S. considers itself “global policeman,” and waste’s its wealth on wars and speculative money manipulation on Wall Street. The world’s largest markets are also soon going to be located in China and Asia and American producer goods are not only expensive but far inferior to Japanese, German and Korean products sold in China. The U.S. is screwing itself, blaming everybody, and wants to control the global reserve currency Which also forces other big trading countries to maintain a positive balance of payments. It’s called the Triffin Dilemna:Mostly due to transportation costs. The Achilles heel of China has always been logistics - it's the other side of the globe. Mexico is next door.BTW, I saw a graphic a few days ago estimating that China is now ~30% more expensive as a manufacturing economy than Mexico. That’s mostly due to the rise of labor costs in China.
