Tornado Warning? WTF?

[Old Rocks]

It was not worth a topic, MORON.

Oh wow there was a tornado!!

First thing before starting a topic on it = is it UNUSUAL?

DATA says NO...

MORON.

Don't waste topics on bullshit.... meaning your "right" to start a topic here should be removed.

We get two or three tornados here in Oregon every year. Yet I have never seen one in Oregon. So for him to see one personally was unusual. Your ignorant belligerence is quite amusing, as you lose on accuracy to nearly everyone on the board.

 

[Foxfyre]

Dream on, Fofyre. While You focus on the Sun's Brightness, You ignore real observations of how the Earth and Sun relationship has changed the climates on Earth which has very little to do with sun spots, driving cars and burning fuel.

Dream on? You obviously didn't read anything I posted. And ignored that I tried to drag the thread back on topic. But do have a lovely day.

 

[Old Rocks]

LOL, go read the abstract.

Meanwhile after 14 years of this statistical exercise you posted there is still no change in the DECLINE of extinction rate.

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There’s no sign of the fabled “Sixth Wave Of Extinctions”.

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Now where did you get that shit chart? According to the Smithsonian;

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2. Extinction Over Time

For years, paleontologists did not know what to make of this fossil from the ancient shark Helicoprion that lived 290 million years ago. It was proposed to be a weapon at the tip of the nose, an unusual dorsal fin, or a defensive tail adornment. Research revealed that it is actually a spiral of teeth (tooth whorl) that was used like a buzzsaw to grab and chop food. Smithsonian photo 2007-15308-helicoprion-shark by Chip Clark.

Extinction of Plants and Animals​

Extinction is the death of all members of a species of plants, animals, or other organisms. One of the most dramatic examples of a modern extinction is the passenger pigeon. Until the early 1800s, billions of passenger pigeons darkened the skies of the United States in spectacular migratory flocks. Easy to trap or shoot, passenger pigeons became a popular, cheap food. Commercial hunters killed them in vast numbers, eventually decimating the population. The last passenger pigeon, named Martha, died in the Cincinnati Zoological Garden in 1914, and was donated to the Smithsonian Institution.

Extinct Species List​

The passenger pigeon is one of many hundreds of extinctions that have been caused by human activities in the past few centuries, such as:

• 1690 Dodo bird – extinct from predation by introduced pigs and cats
• 1768 Stellar’s sea cow – extinct from hunting for fur and oil
• 1870 Labrador duck – extinct from human competition for mussels and other shellfish
• 1900 Rocky mountain locust – extinct from habitat conversion to farmland
• 1936 Thylacine (Tasmanian tiger or wolf) – extinct from hunting, habitat loss, and competition with dogs
• 1952 Deepwater cisco fish – extinct from competition and predation by introduced fishes
• 1962 Hawaii chaff flower – extinct from habitat conversion to military installations
• 1989 Golden toad – extinct from climate change or other impacts
• 2004 St. Helena olive tree – extinct from logging and plantations

Extinction Rates​

Recent studies estimate about eight million species on Earth, of which at least 15,000 are threatened with extinction. It’s hard to pinpoint the exact extinction rate because many endangered species have not been identified or studied yet. A number of scientists grapple with improving methods for estimating extinction rates.

Regardless, scientists agree that today’s extinction rate is hundreds, or even thousands, of times higher than the natural baseline rate. Judging from the fossil record, the baseline extinction rate is about one species per every one million species per year. Scientists are racing to catalogue the biodiversity on Earth, working against the clock as extinctions continue to occur.

Extinction Over Time

Learn about the 5 mass extinctions, and see a list of some extinct species. Explore how we can prevent extinctions, or possibly reverse them.

www.naturalhistory.si.edu

 

[Old Rocks]

I was born into and have lived in "Tornado Alley" most of my life. Here in Albuquerque though, tornadoes are very rare and the twisters that occur once in a blue moon are always small and do relatively minimal damage.

In 1998, a twister came down right in the middle of Cimarron NM in New Mexico's high country--elevation roughly 6500 ft--where tornados are extremely rare, virtually unheard of. That one was strong enough to demolish the bank and post office.

Though about 75% of all tornadoes occur in the USA, I've read they technically can form anywhere in the world except in the polar regions where it is too cold and weather patterns too stable for them to form.

I guess it was your turn.

The worst tornado in Oregon's history hit Long Creek, Oregon at an altitude of 3750 ft. However, it started near the summit of Cyclone Mountain, and left a scar that was visible even in 1972;

Deadly Long Creek tornado was worst in state history

Happy New Year! At the time of this writing, it’s just a few days before Anno Domini 2025 is scheduled to inflict itself upon us. This time of year, many writers make a regular practice of looking back upon the past year and writing about it. I suspect this practice got started with Penny...

www.mckenzieriverreflectionsnewspaper.com

 

[Sunsettommy]

Now where did you get that shit chart? According to the Smithsonian;

1. s
2. Extinction Over Time

For years, paleontologists did not know what to make of this fossil from the ancient shark Helicoprion that lived 290 million years ago. It was proposed to be a weapon at the tip of the nose, an unusual dorsal fin, or a defensive tail adornment. Research revealed that it is actually a spiral of teeth (tooth whorl) that was used like a buzzsaw to grab and chop food. Smithsonian photo 2007-15308-helicoprion-shark by Chip Clark.

Extinction of Plants and Animals​

Extinction is the death of all members of a species of plants, animals, or other organisms. One of the most dramatic examples of a modern extinction is the passenger pigeon. Until the early 1800s, billions of passenger pigeons darkened the skies of the United States in spectacular migratory flocks. Easy to trap or shoot, passenger pigeons became a popular, cheap food. Commercial hunters killed them in vast numbers, eventually decimating the population. The last passenger pigeon, named Martha, died in the Cincinnati Zoological Garden in 1914, and was donated to the Smithsonian Institution.

Extinct Species List​

The passenger pigeon is one of many hundreds of extinctions that have been caused by human activities in the past few centuries, such as:

• 1690 Dodo bird – extinct from predation by introduced pigs and cats
• 1768 Stellar’s sea cow – extinct from hunting for fur and oil
• 1870 Labrador duck – extinct from human competition for mussels and other shellfish
• 1900 Rocky mountain locust – extinct from habitat conversion to farmland
• 1936 Thylacine (Tasmanian tiger or wolf) – extinct from hunting, habitat loss, and competition with dogs
• 1952 Deepwater cisco fish – extinct from competition and predation by introduced fishes
• 1962 Hawaii chaff flower – extinct from habitat conversion to military installations
• 1989 Golden toad – extinct from climate change or other impacts
• 2004 St. Helena olive tree – extinct from logging and plantations

Extinction Rates​

Recent studies estimate about eight million species on Earth, of which at least 15,000 are threatened with extinction. It’s hard to pinpoint the exact extinction rate because many endangered species have not been identified or studied yet. A number of scientists grapple with improving methods for estimating extinction rates.

Regardless, scientists agree that today’s extinction rate is hundreds, or even thousands, of times higher than the natural baseline rate. Judging from the fossil record, the baseline extinction rate is about one species per every one million species per year. Scientists are racing to catalogue the biodiversity on Earth, working against the clock as extinctions continue to occur.

Extinction Over Time

Learn about the 5 mass extinctions, and see a list of some extinct species. Explore how we can prevent extinctions, or possibly reverse them.

www.naturalhistory.si.edu

Bla bla bla, my chart was only back to 1870 you blind dolt which you didn't rebut it at all, you run to a timeline that is millions of years long thus your trend of dishonest replies continues.

The source is well labelled on the chart and internationally recognized showing there is a DECLINING rate starting from 1870 a 139 year trend of decline.

 

[Old Rocks]

Bla bla bla, my chart was only back to 1870 you blind dolt which you didn't rebut it at all, you run to a timeline that is millions of years long thus your trend of dishonest replies continues.

The source is well labelled on the chart and internationally recognized showing there is a DECLINING rate starting from 1870 a 139 year trend of decline.

Just cannot refrain from lying, eh? From the Smithsonian article;

Extinction Rates​

Recent studies estimate about eight million species on Earth, of which at least 15,000 are threatened with extinction. It’s hard to pinpoint the exact extinction rate because many endangered species have not been identified or studied yet. A number of scientists grapple with improving methods for estimating extinction rates.

Regardless, scientists agree that today’s extinction rate is hundreds, or even thousands, of times higher than the natural baseline rate. Judging from the fossil record, the baseline extinction rate is about one species per every one million species per year. Scientists are racing to catalogue the biodiversity on Earth, working against the clock as extinctions continue to occur.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Just cannot refrain from lying, eh? From the Smithsonian article;

Extinction Rates​

Recent studies estimate about eight million species on Earth, of which at least 15,000 are threatened with extinction. It’s hard to pinpoint the exact extinction rate because many endangered species have not been identified or studied yet. A number of scientists grapple with improving methods for estimating extinction rates.

Regardless, scientists agree that today’s extinction rate is hundreds, or even thousands, of times higher than the natural baseline rate. Judging from the fossil record, the baseline extinction rate is about one species per every one million species per year. Scientists are racing to catalogue the biodiversity on Earth, working against the clock as extinctions continue to occur.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

It is clear you never seen the Redlist website LINK which shows a long list of concerns in it.

What is The IUCN Red List?​

Established in 1964, The International Union for Conservation of Nature’s Red List of Threatened Species has evolved to become the world’s most comprehensive information source on the global conservation status of animal, fungi and plant species.

The IUCN Red List is a critical indicator of the health of the world’s biodiversity. Far more than a list of species and their status, it is a powerful tool to inform and catalyze action for biodiversity conservation and policy change, critical to protecting the natural resources we need to survive. It provides information about range, population size, habitat and ecology, use and/or trade, threats, and conservation actions that will help inform necessary conservation decisions.

Learn more about The IUCN Red List

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You make this unsupported claim because you are an idiot!

Just cannot refrain from lying, eh? From the Smithsonian article;

I never disputed the Smithsonian source what I pointed out which YOU deliberately ignore is the time scale and the declining rate of extinction since 1870 which you have completely ignored which I showed in a chart based on the extinction rate data.

I wonder if you are being paid to be this stupid?

 

[Old Rocks]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

It is clear you never seen the Redlist website LINK which shows a long list of concerns in it.

What is The IUCN Red List?​

Established in 1964, The International Union for Conservation of Nature’s Red List of Threatened Species has evolved to become the world’s most comprehensive information source on the global conservation status of animal, fungi and plant species.

The IUCN Red List is a critical indicator of the health of the world’s biodiversity. Far more than a list of species and their status, it is a powerful tool to inform and catalyze action for biodiversity conservation and policy change, critical to protecting the natural resources we need to survive. It provides information about range, population size, habitat and ecology, use and/or trade, threats, and conservation actions that will help inform necessary conservation decisions.

Learn more about The IUCN Red List

Well yes, one would expect you to dislike an organization that actively collects accurate data.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Well yes, one would expect you to dislike an organization that actively collects accurate data.

Wow are you brain damaged, I USED that source to show a DECLINE in the extinction rate since 1870.

You on drugs or is it drinking whiskey as you now going all over the place.

 

[Foxfyre]

The worst tornado in Oregon's history hit Long Creek, Oregon at an altitude of 3750 ft. However, it started near the summit of Cyclone Mountain, and left a scar that was visible even in 1972;

Deadly Long Creek tornado was worst in state history

Happy New Year! At the time of this writing, it’s just a few days before Anno Domini 2025 is scheduled to inflict itself upon us. This time of year, many writers make a regular practice of looking back upon the past year and writing about it. I suspect this practice got started with Penny...

www.mckenzieriverreflectionsnewspaper.com

While claiming no particular expertise, one of my personal interests has been climate, weather and phenomenon associated with both as well as other aspects of science that we still have much to learn about.

One thing I have learned is that there can be fascinating anomalies, especially in tornadoes. I have accepted that the USA has most of the world's tornadoes because of our unique location on the planet that produces conditions that produce tornadoes far more than happens anyplace else on Earth.

I also believe that we aren't having more/larger tornadoes, hurricanes, and other severe weather phenomena than has occurred over the long history of our planet. It just seems more severe because we have so many more people living on Planet Earth and in locations here in the USA that was not the case 100 years ago when there were only 2 billion people on Earth. There are now 8 billion so of course there are more people inhabiting area where severe weather phenomenon occurs plus we have technology to detect and evaluate the storms. That technology didn't exist 100 years ago.

And places like Massachusetts aren't having more, bigger, more destructive tornadoes than they ever have and tornadoes are still relatively rare and mostly less destructive than what you normally expect say in 'Tornado Alley.'

So yes, a tornado warning in Massachusetts is news where in say West Texas in the spring time it is just what happens with a lot of summer thunderstorms.

 

[NotYankee]

While claiming no particular expertise, one of my personal interests has been climate, weather and phenomenon associated with both as well as other aspects of science that we still have much to learn about.

One thing I have learned is that there can be fascinating anomalies, especially in tornadoes. I have accepted that the USA has most of the world's tornadoes because of our unique location on the planet that produces conditions that produce tornadoes far more than happens anyplace else on Earth.

I also believe that we aren't have more/larger tornadoes, hurricanes, and other severe weather phenomena than has occurred over the long history of our planet. It just seems more severe because we have so many more people living on Planet Earth and in locations here in the USA that was not the case 100 years ago when there were only 2 billion people on Earth. There are now 8 billion so of course there are more people inhabiting area where severe weather phenomenon occurs.

And places like Massachusetts aren't having more, bigger, more destructive tornadoes than they ever have and tornadoes are still relatively rare and mostly less destructive than what you normally expect say in 'Tornado Alley.'

So yes, a tornado warning in Massachusetts is news where in say West Texas in the spring time it is just what happens with a lot of summer thunderstorms.

Sounds good to me.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

In Hampshire county, MA? You don't see that every day.

Meh - we get them here from March-August, probably 7-8 warnings a year, 20 plus tornado watches a year.
Tornado warnings use to be rarer, because they were not called "warnings" unless it was confirmed by sight. Today most "warnings" are radar indicated, to which most never touch the ground.
And that is a problem. Around here, people don't take warnings or the tornado sirens seriously at all. Because they overdue the warnings. In the past, warnings meant get your ass in the basement.

 

[Unkotare]

Meh - we get them here from March-August, probably 7-8 warnings a year, 20 plus tornado watches a year.
Tornado warnings use to be rarer, because they were not called "warnings" unless it was confirmed by sight. Today most "warnings" are radar indicated, to which most never touch the ground.
And that is a problem. Around here, people don't take warnings or the tornado sirens seriously at all. Because they overdue the warnings. In the past, warnings meant get your ass in the basement.

Could be the sort of thing that happened with that flooding in Texas.

 

[EMH]

So a tornado warning this time of year in Massachusetts is worth a mention.

LOL!!!

It rained, why don't you start a topic that yesterday's rain is proof CO2 causes warming...

 

[EMH]

We get two or three tornados here in Oregon every year. Yet I have never seen one in Oregon. So for him to see one personally was unusual. Your ignorant belligerence is quite amusing, as you lose on accuracy to nearly everyone on the board.

You are desperate of anything that might be stretched into a sign of climate change, because you don't have anything real...

 

[Foxfyre]

LOL!!!

It rained, why don't you start a topic that yesterday's rain is proof CO2 causes warming...

Why don't you comment on the thread topic instead of posting something this stupid that I nor the OP has argued or even suggested.

One thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

 

[EMH]

Why don't you comment on the thread topic instead of posting something this stupid that I nor the OP has argued or even suggested.

One thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

I did.

I documented and linked the history of tornados in Mass. That proves this "topic" should never have been posted. Instead, the poster who started it should have demonstrated an IQ over 5 by looking up that history. But that poster has an IQ under 5...

and that's the level of IQ required to believe in CO2 FRAUD...

 

[Unkotare]

LOL!!!

It rained, why don't you start a topic that yesterday's rain is proof CO2 causes warming...

Come on, everyone knows da jooos causes rain...

 

[Unkotare]

... Instead, the poster who started it should have .... looking up that history. ...

Or by living in MA for over 50 years. Oh wait, I have done that.

 

[Unkotare]

You are desperate of anything that might be stretched into a sign of climate change, because you don't have anything real...

Are da joooos real? Are they still hiding under your bed?