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You are one of the very few people that I've discussed this subject with that thinks Roe V Wade was a good constitutional ruling... in fact its been years since I've heard anyone argue that point....It wasn't a new point. It was the same point.
Or it's evident how strongly activist these judges are.
It was a proper constitutional ruling. Even if you think otherwise.
Where we go is it is now states rights.
Trump's suggestion is irrelevant.
I don't need to. I am very familiar with the 9th amendment. Without it, it's likely we wouldn't have a bill of rights at all.An
And created law....ask any abortion activist.
You are one of the very few people that I've discussed this subject with that thinks Roe V Wade was a good constitutional ruling... in fact its been years since I've heard anyone argue that point....
Like I said you are thinking with emotion not legal facts and wisdom....
No problem. Have a good rest of your weekend.I'm not going to talk you out from your stubbornness because you have such an attachment to your outdated opinion....
I don't need to. I am very familiar with the 9th amendment
Oh fuck off with your 1984 gaslighting Newspeak bullshit.Or it's evident how strongly activist these judges are.
I am aware. You are not adding anything new to the debate. It's interesting that alito would completely disregard the 9th amendment in his ruling.“The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives,” wrote Justice Samuel Alito in the court's 6-3 decision.
constitution.findlaw.com
Thanks for taking the time to add nothing to the debate.Oh fuck off with your 1984 gaslighting Newspeak bullshit.
Exactly who are you calling "religious nuts?" The Bible observes that God knows us when we are first conceived, and it says so in both the Old and the New testaments. Aborting a baby, a man spilling his seeds, and other beliefs about activities resulting in a new life are there. People who believe the Bible is a key to acceptable behaviors are not "religious nuts." The very first Amendment the founders gave us is specifically with re to religious freedom.Agree. The religious nuts calling fetuses younger than 8 weeks late a "baby" have lost their marbles.
Religious nuts are a threat to the party.
You worship a false diety.Exactly who are you calling "religious nuts?" The Bible observes that God knows us when we are first conceived, and it says so in both the Old and the New testaments. Aborting a baby, a man spilling his seeds, and other beliefs about activities resulting in a new life are there. People who believe the Bible is a key to acceptable behaviors are not "religious nuts." The very first Amendment the founders gave us is specifically with re to religious freedom.
Everything that I've read says at 10 weeks nearly all fetuses have a hearbeat, so 10 seems like a reasonable limit.I think 8 weeks is the minimum.
Ten would be better... Two full cycles missed and a little
Everything that I've read says at 10 weeks nearly all fetuses have a heartbeat, so 10 seems like a reasonable limit.
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This is one issue where you won't make anyone happy. Both extremist positions on abortion are fraught with peril imo.Agree
And those who are out to ban the morning after pill have lost the plot IMO.
If you make a mistake and can attempt to fix in the next few days... That's the responsible thing to do.
What do they say? With a good compromise both parties are dissatisfied...This is one issue where you won't make anyone happy. Both extremist positions on abortion are fraught with peril imo.
That is irrelevant. Do you read anything about heartbeats in the 14th amendment, or does it say "born"?Everything that I've read says at 10 weeks nearly all fetuses have a hearbeat, so 10 seems like a reasonable limit.
There are lots of things that could never have been explicitly called out explicitly in a document written 250 years ago.That is irrelevant. Do you read anything about heartbeats in the 14th amendment, or does it say "born"?
Exactly. That's the genius of the 9th amendment.There are lots of things that could never have been explicitly called out explicitly in a document written 250 years ago.
Show me and Justice Alito where there is a constitutional guarantee to an abortion.I am aware. You are not adding anything new to the debate. It's interesting that alito would completely disregard the 9th amendment in his ruling.
I wonder if that means he will support overturning the right to marriage, travel and presumption of innocence.
Do you think the courts should pretend the 9th amendment doesn't exist and those should be overturned and left to the states because "the constitution does not confer a right.."
Here is what James Madison had to say...unless you think he was an activist?
"The Federalists contended that a bill of rights was unnecessary. They responded to those opposing ratification of the Constitution because of the lack of a declaration of fundamental rights by arguing that, inasmuch as it would be impossible to list all rights, it would be dangerous to list some and thereby lend support to the argument that government was unrestrained as to those rights not listed. 1 Madison adverted to this argument in presenting his proposed amendments to the House of Representatives."
"It has been objected also against a bill of rights, that, by enumerating particular exceptions to the grant of power, it would disparage those rights which were not placed in that enumeration; and it might follow by implication, that those rights which were not singled out, were intended to be assigned into the hands of the General Government, and were consequently insecure. This is one of the most plausible arguments I have ever heard against the admission of a bill of rights into this system; but, I conceive, that it may be guarded against. I have attempted it, as gentlemen may see by turning to the last clause of the fourth resolution."
The Ninth Amendment: Uneumerated Rights - FindLaw
The Bill of Rights famously protects things like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to bear arms. But many skip over the Ninth Amendment, which proposes that there may be other important rights not specifically listed in the Constitution.
So here we have a founding father essentially rejecting Alito's opinion. Interesting don't you say?
It was in the 9th amendment between the right to travel and presumption of innocence until activist judges struck down 50 years of precedent.Show me and Justice Alito where there is a constitutional guarantee to an abortion.
Activist judges created the problem.........Like RBG commented on the way it should have been accomplished, and Alito said....It was in the 9th amendment between the right to travel and presumption of innocence until activist judges struck down 50 years of precedent.
Round and round we go. Have you run out of arguments because we have been here before?Activist judges created the problem.........Like RBG commented on the way it should have been accomplished, and Alito said....
