Tom Brady the G.O.A.T

This is one of those useless arguments.

Brady can't scramble the fastest (closer to the slowest).
He can't throw the furthest.
He hasn't rushed for the most touchdowns (not even on the list of QB's with the most) although #1 for passing TD's.

But through skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, being surrounded by quality players and coaching, he's managed to amass more NFL championships as a starting QB than anyone else will likely ever match.

As far as an "athlete" I'll take any steroid free Tour de France athlete over Tom Brady any day.
 
This is one of those useless arguments.

Brady can't scramble the fastest (closer to the slowest).
He can't throw the furthest.
He hasn't rushed for the most touchdowns (not even on the list of QB's with the most) although #1 for passing TD's.

But through skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, being surrounded by quality players and coaching, he's managed to amass more NFL championships as a starting QB than anyone else will likely ever match.

As far as an "athlete" I'll take any steroid free Tour de France athlete over Tom Brady any day.
I’ll take a decathlete over your biker.
 
This is one of those useless arguments.

Brady can't scramble the fastest (closer to the slowest).
He can't throw the furthest.
He hasn't rushed for the most touchdowns (not even on the list of QB's with the most) although #1 for passing TD's.

But through skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, being surrounded by quality players and coaching, he's managed to amass more NFL championships as a starting QB than anyone else will likely ever match.

As far as an "athlete" I'll take any steroid free Tour de France athlete over Tom Brady any day.
A drug free Tour de France rider? I didn't think there were any of those! :)
 
Good but not the Greatest
What do you judge "the greatest" by?
skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, number of titles
7 Super Bowl wins
10 Super Bowl Appearance -- means 10 Division Championships
5 Super Bowl MVP Awards
Yogi Berra won 10 championships. Is he the G.O.A.T.?
Yogi Berra played for the New York Yankees in a sport with no salary cap. Year in and year out the Yankees were loaded with stars because they had more money than anyone else to go out and get them. What Tom Brady has done in the NFL of today is amazing because the league is set up to create parity! You have the salary cap. You have a draft where the best teams pick last. You have a schedule where the best teams have harder schedules. You have free agency. Brady won Super Bowls with offensive rosters that were not filled with super stars yet he made players like Julian Edelman look like one!
 
Good but not the Greatest
What do you judge "the greatest" by?
skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, number of titles
7 Super Bowl wins
10 Super Bowl Appearance -- means 10 Division Championships
5 Super Bowl MVP Awards
Yogi Berra won 10 championships. Is he the G.O.A.T.?
Yogi Berra played for the New York Yankees in a sport with no salary cap. Year in and year out the Yankees were loaded with stars because they had more money than anyone else to go out and get them. What Tom Brady has done in the NFL of today is amazing because the league is set up to create parity! You have the salary cap. You have a draft where the best teams pick last. You have a schedule where the best teams have harder schedules. You have free agency. Brady won Super Bowls with offensive rosters that were not filled with super stars yet he made players like Julian Edelman look like one!
You need to credit his Brady’s GM’s for that.
 
At 43
Good but not the Greatest
What do you judge "the greatest" by?
skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, number of titles
7 Super Bowl wins
10 Super Bowl Appearance -- means 10 Division Championships
5 Super Bowl MVP Awards
Yogi Berra won 10 championships. Is he the G.O.A.T.?
Yogi Berra played for the New York Yankees in a sport with no salary cap. Year in and year out the Yankees were loaded with stars because they had more money than anyone else to go out and get them. What Tom Brady has done in the NFL of today is amazing because the league is set up to create parity! You have the salary cap. You have a draft where the best teams pick last. You have a schedule where the best teams have harder schedules. You have free agency. Brady won Super Bowls with offensive rosters that were not filled with super stars yet he made players like Julian Edelman look like one!
At 43 fucking years old, I've never seen anything like it. He looks like he is 32...lol...............Though he has lost a half step....43 is 120 in football...lol
 
Good but not the Greatest
What do you judge "the greatest" by?
skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, number of titles
7 Super Bowl wins
10 Super Bowl Appearance -- means 10 Division Championships
5 Super Bowl MVP Awards
Yogi Berra won 10 championships. Is he the G.O.A.T.?
Yogi Berra played for the New York Yankees in a sport with no salary cap. Year in and year out the Yankees were loaded with stars because they had more money than anyone else to go out and get them. What Tom Brady has done in the NFL of today is amazing because the league is set up to create parity! You have the salary cap. You have a draft where the best teams pick last. You have a schedule where the best teams have harder schedules. You have free agency. Brady won Super Bowls with offensive rosters that were not filled with super stars yet he made players like Julian Edelman look like one!
You need to credit his Brady’s GM’s for that.
Granted Brady was blessed to be in an organization that was well run but the fact is...his ability to adapt to different personnel gave the Patriots the ability to transition from one style of offense to one that functioned completely differently. Brady's ability to make others look good enabled the Patriots to take "cast offs" from other teams and have them become valuable contributors.
 
Good but not the Greatest
What do you judge "the greatest" by?
skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, number of titles
7 Super Bowl wins
10 Super Bowl Appearance -- means 10 Division Championships
5 Super Bowl MVP Awards
Yogi Berra won 10 championships. Is he the G.O.A.T.?
Yogi Berra played for the New York Yankees in a sport with no salary cap. Year in and year out the Yankees were loaded with stars because they had more money than anyone else to go out and get them. What Tom Brady has done in the NFL of today is amazing because the league is set up to create parity! You have the salary cap. You have a draft where the best teams pick last. You have a schedule where the best teams have harder schedules. You have free agency. Brady won Super Bowls with offensive rosters that were not filled with super stars yet he made players like Julian Edelman look like one!
You need to credit his Brady’s GM’s for that.
Granted Brady was blessed to be in an organization that was well run but the fact is...his ability to adapt to different personnel gave the Patriots the ability to transition from one style of offense to one that functioned completely differently. Brady's ability to make others look good enabled the Patriots to take "cast offs" from other teams and have them become valuable contributors.
Every offense was the same. Handoff and seven-on-seven.
 
The greatest athlete ever.
Even some of the greatests of all time don't compare to him.
A legend above all of them.

Tom Brady solidifies himself as one of the best athletes in history

He is the GOAT in football, definitely not the greatest athlete of all time. What other professional sport would he excel in?

I have no dog in this race, but who would you consider the greatest athlete of all time? Obviously, one who dominated in more than one professional sport, right?
I’d take an Olympic decathlon champion over any of them.
Nope; they are very good at MANY sports but NOT THE BEST IN any sport!!! That makes them a very good all rounder....still fabulous of course but the BEST is one who redefines their sport. Hence I say Don Bradman. Sorta a Babe Ruth ++ . I have ZERO idea about Brady but as he likes Trump over half the US already would say no without a second thought...or a first for that matter. Oh; and this is not a sports question; it's an EXCELLENCE question.

Greg
 
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Good but not the Greatest
What do you judge "the greatest" by?
skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, number of titles
7 Super Bowl wins
10 Super Bowl Appearance -- means 10 Division Championships
5 Super Bowl MVP Awards
Yogi Berra won 10 championships. Is he the G.O.A.T.?
Yogi Berra played for the New York Yankees in a sport with no salary cap. Year in and year out the Yankees were loaded with stars because they had more money than anyone else to go out and get them. What Tom Brady has done in the NFL of today is amazing because the league is set up to create parity! You have the salary cap. You have a draft where the best teams pick last. You have a schedule where the best teams have harder schedules. You have free agency. Brady won Super Bowls with offensive rosters that were not filled with super stars yet he made players like Julian Edelman look like one!
You need to credit his Brady’s GM’s for that.
Granted Brady was blessed to be in an organization that was well run but the fact is...his ability to adapt to different personnel gave the Patriots the ability to transition from one style of offense to one that functioned completely differently. Brady's ability to make others look good enabled the Patriots to take "cast offs" from other teams and have them become valuable contributors.
Every offense was the same. Handoff and seven-on-seven.

You obviously know nothing about football if you think every Patriots offense was the same.
 
Good but not the Greatest
What do you judge "the greatest" by?
skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, number of titles
7 Super Bowl wins
10 Super Bowl Appearance -- means 10 Division Championships
5 Super Bowl MVP Awards
Yogi Berra won 10 championships. Is he the G.O.A.T.?
Yogi Berra played for the New York Yankees in a sport with no salary cap. Year in and year out the Yankees were loaded with stars because they had more money than anyone else to go out and get them. What Tom Brady has done in the NFL of today is amazing because the league is set up to create parity! You have the salary cap. You have a draft where the best teams pick last. You have a schedule where the best teams have harder schedules. You have free agency. Brady won Super Bowls with offensive rosters that were not filled with super stars yet he made players like Julian Edelman look like one!
You need to credit his Brady’s GM’s for that.
Granted Brady was blessed to be in an organization that was well run but the fact is...his ability to adapt to different personnel gave the Patriots the ability to transition from one style of offense to one that functioned completely differently. Brady's ability to make others look good enabled the Patriots to take "cast offs" from other teams and have them become valuable contributors.
Every offense was the same. Handoff and seven-on-seven.

You obviously know nothing about football if you think every Patriots offense was the same.
#metoo. I had to look up who Brady was.......................................in the news about Superbowl but I knew stuff all of the back story. Can he really get all ten pins with a football??? Amazin'.

Greg
 
This is one of those useless arguments.

Brady can't scramble the fastest (closer to the slowest).
He can't throw the furthest.
He hasn't rushed for the most touchdowns (not even on the list of QB's with the most) although #1 for passing TD's.

But through skill, cunning, leadership, longevity, being surrounded by quality players and coaching, he's managed to amass more NFL championships as a starting QB than anyone else will likely ever match.

As far as an "athlete" I'll take any steroid free Tour de France athlete over Tom Brady any day.
A drug free Tour de France rider? I didn't think there were any of those! :)
Cadel Evans? The last "clean" winner maybe?? I dunno; are there any???

Greg
 

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