To take out Iran was always in the Plan.

Well, Rand Paul is engaging in outreach and diplomacy. He's not exactly a warhawk.

I think Trump is weary of war for many reasons. It could really hurt his re-election chances unless there is a legitimate, sound reason for such action.

That is WHY I am thinking IF he does start a war with them,he will wait until AFTER he is relected.He has kissed Israels ass ever since being elected so I just dont see him not starting one in his second term.thats too much to hope for having a president that doesnt start a war. Last one we had that didnt was carter.


If war is needed, and that's the word I prefer to use as it should be a last resort; the political impact in his second term would all come down to the magnitude. I think Trump is a dollars and cents guy. He cares about the economy and likes to see macro economic numbers improve, or jobs, etc. His focus on this, dealing with China and the southern border have placed him in an enviable position. The Dems would love to have him go to war as it probably hurts his 90% approval with GOP voters. From what I can tell, people are just really weary of the slightest indication of another Neo-Con government, which is one big reason Conservative/libertarian voters sided with him in the Primaries.

So, if a war was needed and let's say the UK or others help and it's a 1-2 week campaign to cripple Iranian military infrastructure, that is far different than another 15+ year Iraq. I really think he prefers communication and getting results vis a vis Iran walking away from their nuclear ambitions. These are the kinds of wins he prefers and it works out better for everyone.

He's not going to haphazardly go to war with Iran. His approach so far has lead him to so much success and they have a treasure chest for re-election, record numbers. Why? People know he isn't an itchy trigger, among other considerations.
 
And no wonder Iran wants nukes, the US doesn't attack nuclear countries.

says who?
Which nuclear power has the US attacked?

Hey derpass: We are the original Nuclear Power.

If not for Klaus Fuchs, no other countries would have them. If not for Billy Boy Clinton, China would still be playing with Estes rockets.

Wow….you seemed to have forgotten about the germans we imported to make those bombs and Fermi (who I think was Italian). All people you guys would be telling to “go back where they came from” had you been with us at the time.

they were not german by Nazi law. Enrico Fermi was married to a jewish
woman. The USA gave him a break. Einstein ALSO had a real problem
 
anyone out there----KNOW why Israel is interested in "TAKING IRAN OUT"----to the detriment of the rest of the world? Even Father Coughlin KNEW why jews did not like adolf hitler-------they seemed to believe that it is a good idea to go to war just to save a few hundred jews----but there are almost NO JEWS in Iran now

Thank you for admitting they started WWII.
 
Well, Rand Paul is engaging in outreach and diplomacy. He's not exactly a warhawk.

I think Trump is weary of war for many reasons. It could really hurt his re-election chances unless there is a legitimate, sound reason for such action.

That is WHY I am thinking IF he does start a war with them,he will wait until AFTER he is relected.He has kissed Israels ass ever since being elected so I just dont see him not starting one in his second term.thats too much to hope for having a president that doesnt start a war. Last one we had that didnt was carter.


If war is needed, and that's the word I prefer to use as it should be a last resort; the political impact in his second term would all come down to the magnitude. I think Trump is a dollars and cents guy. He cares about the economy and likes to see macro economic numbers improve, or jobs, etc. His focus on this, dealing with China and the southern border have placed him in an enviable position. The Dems would love to have him go to war as it probably hurts his 90% approval with GOP voters. From what I can tell, people are just really weary of the slightest indication of another Neo-Con government, which is one big reason Conservative/libertarian voters sided with him in the Primaries.

So, if a war was needed and let's say the UK or others help and it's a 1-2 week campaign to cripple Iranian military infrastructure, that is far different than another 15+ year Iraq. I really think he prefers communication and getting results vis a vis Iran walking away from their nuclear ambitions. These are the kinds of wins he prefers and it works out better for everyone.

He's not going to haphazardly go to war with Iran. His approach so far has lead him to so much success and they have a treasure chest for re-election, record numbers. Why? People know he isn't an itchy trigger, among other considerations.

Why do you suppose he put Bolton in and Pompeo. To do a coup on Iran, which will turn out bad. First we sanction them to death, then go in for the kill.
 
anyone out there----KNOW why Israel is interested in "TAKING IRAN OUT"----to the detriment of the rest of the world? Even Father Coughlin KNEW why jews did not like adolf hitler-------they seemed to believe that it is a good idea to go to war just to save a few hundred jews----but there are almost NO JEWS in Iran now

Thank you for admitting they started WWII.

oh gee----another father coughlin fan-------who is "they" in your sentence-----
Japanese bombers?------hired by jews? Can you tell me why Israel wants
the USA to go to war against IRAN?------or why father Charles Coughlin liked Adolf
Hitler so much ?
 
And no wonder Iran wants nukes, the US doesn't attack nuclear countries.

says who?
Which nuclear power has the US attacked?

Hey derpass: We are the original Nuclear Power.

If not for Klaus Fuchs, no other countries would have them. If not for Billy Boy Clinton, China would still be playing with Estes rockets.

Wow….you seemed to have forgotten about the germans we imported to make those bombs and Fermi (who I think was Italian). All people you guys would be telling to “go back where they came from” had you been with us at the time.

they were not german by Nazi law. Enrico Fermi was married to a jewish
woman. The USA gave him a break. Einstein ALSO had a real problem

Ok
 
says who?
Which nuclear power has the US attacked?

Hey derpass: We are the original Nuclear Power.

If not for Klaus Fuchs, no other countries would have them. If not for Billy Boy Clinton, China would still be playing with Estes rockets.

Wow….you seemed to have forgotten about the germans we imported to make those bombs and Fermi (who I think was Italian). All people you guys would be telling to “go back where they came from” had you been with us at the time.

they were not german by Nazi law. Enrico Fermi was married to a jewish
woman. The USA gave him a break. Einstein ALSO had a real problem

Ok

BTW-----trump said----"IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE......... did oppenheimer
complain when he said "NOW I AM BECOME DEATH.." ? ------seems a little
whiney to me. but he was born in NY
 
again ----penny------why does Israel WANT the USA to go to war AGAINST Iran----
and why did the jews want to destroy poor adolf?
 
How many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice for this nonsense about taking out Iran?


I guess Penilope cannot reason out as far as to wonder if all Iran has is peaceful energy production intentions (power utility-------- just how much electricity does Iran need, especially when they have unlimited power from oil, hydro, and solar?) that they deny inspectors access to the sensitive areas of their facilities while running their nation into ruin, revolt, death and starvation and risk war before budging one inch on concessions which would only affect their ability to make WEAPONS? :rolleyes:

tramp is running their nation in ruin by an economic war, same as the Jews did to Germany.

Except that the Jews didn't have a nation. And think for a moment. Hitler's decision to blame the Jews for everything led directly to the establishment of the first Jewish nation in 2000 years. Are the Jews harming Germany today? Answer honestly.
 
anyone out there----KNOW why Israel is interested in "TAKING IRAN OUT"----to the detriment of the rest of the world? Even Father Coughlin KNEW why jews did not like adolf hitler-------they seemed to believe that it is a good idea to go to war just to save a few hundred jews----but there are almost NO JEWS in Iran now

Thank you for admitting they started WWII.

They didn't, but hold onto that, it'll make you an amusing subject.
 
How many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice for this nonsense about taking out Iran?


I guess Penilope cannot reason out as far as to wonder if all Iran has is peaceful energy production intentions (power utility-------- just how much electricity does Iran need, especially when they have unlimited power from oil, hydro, and solar?) that they deny inspectors access to the sensitive areas of their facilities while running their nation into ruin, revolt, death and starvation and risk war before budging one inch on concessions which would only affect their ability to make WEAPONS? :rolleyes:

tramp is running their nation in ruin by an economic war, same as the Jews did to Germany.

Except that the Jews didn't have a nation. And think for a moment. Hitler's decision to blame the Jews for everything led directly to the establishment of the first Jewish nation in 2000 years. Are the Jews harming Germany today? Answer honestly.


worse than you can imagine--------do you have much of an imagination? If not----try to get your hands or eyeballs upon islamo Nazi literature. ------if you really have lots of patience-----go to a mosque which is frequented by SOUTH EAST
ASIAN muslims---------they gotta speak English there because no five people from that area speak the same south east asia dialect-----so they resort to English. -----AND LEARN IMAGINATIVE THINKING via the event called the KHUTBAH JUMAAT (every Friday-----like toward noon------more fanciful than any bedtime fairy tale you heard as a kid) then you will learn of the HORRORS jews are doing-----world wide--------or read penny's posts
 
How many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice for this nonsense about taking out Iran?


I guess Penilope cannot reason out as far as to wonder if all Iran has is peaceful energy production intentions (power utility-------- just how much electricity does Iran need, especially when they have unlimited power from oil, hydro, and solar?) that they deny inspectors access to the sensitive areas of their facilities while running their nation into ruin, revolt, death and starvation and risk war before budging one inch on concessions which would only affect their ability to make WEAPONS? :rolleyes:

tramp is running their nation in ruin by an economic war, same as the Jews did to Germany.

Except that the Jews didn't have a nation. And think for a moment. Hitler's decision to blame the Jews for everything led directly to the establishment of the first Jewish nation in 2000 years. Are the Jews harming Germany today? Answer honestly.

I'm talking about Iran.
 
How many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice for this nonsense about taking out Iran?


I guess Penilope cannot reason out as far as to wonder if all Iran has is peaceful energy production intentions (power utility-------- just how much electricity does Iran need, especially when they have unlimited power from oil, hydro, and solar?) that they deny inspectors access to the sensitive areas of their facilities while running their nation into ruin, revolt, death and starvation and risk war before budging one inch on concessions which would only affect their ability to make WEAPONS? :rolleyes:

tramp is running their nation in ruin by an economic war, same as the Jews did to Germany.

Except that the Jews didn't have a nation. And think for a moment. Hitler's decision to blame the Jews for everything led directly to the establishment of the first Jewish nation in 2000 years. Are the Jews harming Germany today? Answer honestly.

I'm talking about Iran.

You said, "same as the Jews did to Germany". That brought them into the discussion.
 
anyone out there----KNOW why Israel is interested in "TAKING IRAN OUT"----to the detriment of the rest of the world? Even Father Coughlin KNEW why jews did not like adolf hitler-------they seemed to believe that it is a good idea to go to war just to save a few hundred jews----but there are almost NO JEWS in Iran now

Because Iran's Koshers fled to Israel,
and
actually during the Holocaust, Iran accepted Kosher & Polish Catholic refugees.
 
How many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice for this nonsense about taking out Iran?


I guess Penilope cannot reason out as far as to wonder if all Iran has is peaceful energy production intentions (power utility-------- just how much electricity does Iran need, especially when they have unlimited power from oil, hydro, and solar?) that they deny inspectors access to the sensitive areas of their facilities while running their nation into ruin, revolt, death and starvation and risk war before budging one inch on concessions which would only affect their ability to make WEAPONS? :rolleyes:

tramp is running their nation in ruin by an economic war, same as the Jews did to Germany.

Except that the Jews didn't have a nation. And think for a moment. Hitler's decision to blame the Jews for everything led directly to the establishment of the first Jewish nation in 2000 years. Are the Jews harming Germany today? Answer honestly.

Germany's a vassal state at the mercy of the USA, a nation where people are circumcised, and proud of the Zion, and seek war with Iran because of the manipulations of the Kosher Synagogue of Satan.
 
How many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice for this nonsense about taking out Iran?


I guess Penilope cannot reason out as far as to wonder if all Iran has is peaceful energy production intentions (power utility-------- just how much electricity does Iran need, especially when they have unlimited power from oil, hydro, and solar?) that they deny inspectors access to the sensitive areas of their facilities while running their nation into ruin, revolt, death and starvation and risk war before budging one inch on concessions which would only affect their ability to make WEAPONS? :rolleyes:

tramp is running their nation in ruin by an economic war, same as the Jews did to Germany.

Except that the Jews didn't have a nation. And think for a moment. Hitler's decision to blame the Jews for everything led directly to the establishment of the first Jewish nation in 2000 years. Are the Jews harming Germany today? Answer honestly.

Germany's a vassal state at the mercy of the USA, a nation where people are circumcised, and proud of the Zion, and seek war with Iran because of the manipulations of the Kosher Synagogue of Satan.
Poland started WWII, so why do you hate Jews so much?
 
How many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice for this nonsense about taking out Iran?


I guess Penilope cannot reason out as far as to wonder if all Iran has is peaceful energy production intentions (power utility-------- just how much electricity does Iran need, especially when they have unlimited power from oil, hydro, and solar?) that they deny inspectors access to the sensitive areas of their facilities while running their nation into ruin, revolt, death and starvation and risk war before budging one inch on concessions which would only affect their ability to make WEAPONS? :rolleyes:

tramp is running their nation in ruin by an economic war, same as the Jews did to Germany.

Except that the Jews didn't have a nation. And think for a moment. Hitler's decision to blame the Jews for everything led directly to the establishment of the first Jewish nation in 2000 years. Are the Jews harming Germany today? Answer honestly.

Germany's a vassal state at the mercy of the USA, a nation where people are circumcised, and proud of the Zion, and seek war with Iran because of the manipulations of the Kosher Synagogue of Satan.
Poland started WWII, so why do you hate Jews so much?

Germ-Man Protestants started WW2,

Anglos & Saxons seem to cause almost all of the problems out of the White World.
Including
these wars in the Middle-East
including Iran.
Because most Whites in the USA are Anglo - Saxon filth.

No wonder why you're such violent maniacs, and thoughtless brutes always calling for more blood, this time for the blood of the Iranians.

Why
wouldn't I despise them?

Is there any reason to NOT despise them?

Salomon Morel the Kosher Commie butcher killed more Poles than 9/11 terrorists killed Americans.
Yet
the Kosher Capital said it was a conspiracy theory, and refused to apprehend Morel to justice for a trial.

So, if Americans can think of Osama the way we do, then Poles can think of Morel the same way.
 
How many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice for this nonsense about taking out Iran?


I guess Penilope cannot reason out as far as to wonder if all Iran has is peaceful energy production intentions (power utility-------- just how much electricity does Iran need, especially when they have unlimited power from oil, hydro, and solar?) that they deny inspectors access to the sensitive areas of their facilities while running their nation into ruin, revolt, death and starvation and risk war before budging one inch on concessions which would only affect their ability to make WEAPONS? :rolleyes:

tramp is running their nation in ruin by an economic war, same as the Jews did to Germany.

Except that the Jews didn't have a nation. And think for a moment. Hitler's decision to blame the Jews for everything led directly to the establishment of the first Jewish nation in 2000 years. Are the Jews harming Germany today? Answer honestly.

Germany's a vassal state at the mercy of the USA, a nation where people are circumcised, and proud of the Zion, and seek war with Iran because of the manipulations of the Kosher Synagogue of Satan.
Wow, that's imaginative. Completely bogus, but imaginative.
 

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