Tired Of Democrats Use Of "Fascist"

[lafayette]

I'm being told I lack an education by someone who can't spell education. And hell, why so hostile? Was I rude or disrespectful to you? Anyway, you talk in abstractions and vague statements. Please provide some specifics.

Fascist, authoritarian, strong arm all describe MAGA very well.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

OP, can you do the board a favor and post the definition of "fascist?"

Google is your friend

 

[lafayette]

MAGA is fascism, yes.

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian political ideology and movement characterized by several key features:

1. Authoritarianism: Centralized autocratic government led by a dictatorial leader1.
2. Ultranationalism: Extreme nationalism that often exalts the nation or race above the individual1.
3. Militarism: Emphasis on military strength and the use of force to achieve political goals1.
4. Suppression of Opposition: Forcible suppression of political opposition and dissent1.
5. Social Hierarchy: Belief in a natural social hierarchy and the subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race1.
6. Economic Control: Strong regimentation of society and the economy, often with the goal of achieving national self-sufficiency1.

Fascism emerged in early 20th-century Europe, with notable examples including Mussolini’s Italy and Hitler’s Germany1. It opposes democracy, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism1

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fascism doesn't have a motto. What's even your source on that? Nazism is an extreme form of fascism. In essence it's fascism with an added racial element. But again, both were militaristic, ultranationalist dictatorships.

He is quoting the author of Fascism, Mussolini himself.

How can you be posting yet know so little?

Aren't you embarrassed?



As the Duce leading the Italian people to the future, Benito Mussolini said that his dictatorial régime of government made Fascist Italy (1922–1943) the representative Totalitarian State: "Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." Likewise, in The Concept of the Political (1927), ...

Totalitarianism - Wikipedia​

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Totalitarianism





Amazing how badly government schooling let you down.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Man, you can't just go up saying that words mean whatever the hell you want them to mean.

Just between the two of us.....have you ever read a book????



So…you motto is ‘I ain’t much for fancy book-learnin’”

 

[PoliticalChic]

Wow! Talk about uneducated drivel. Seriously, where did you learn all this, on late night TV?

Get a job

When I think I've heard it all......seen the depth of their ignorance......I am still amazed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm being told I lack an education by someone who can't spell education. And hell, why so hostile? Was I rude or disrespectful to you? Anyway, you talk in abstractions and vague statements. Please provide some specifics.

I apologize, but I expect a higher level of understanding and knowledge than you seem to evince.




".....you talk in abstractions and vague statements. Please provide some specifics."


Is that what you found in my OP?


1. This quote from Saul Alinsky (late communist), mentor of Democrat lights like Hillary and Obama, in "Rules for Radicals" relates so well to the democrat party today, "accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt."?

Thus, the recent constant use of "fascists" for the other side.


2. Not only is the use of the term 'fascist' the complete oppostite of the truth, but it is appropriate to address it in the light of tomorrow's anniversary:
October 30th, 1922 Benito Mussolini becomes Premier of Italy




From David Ramsey Steele's essay on Fascism and Mussolini:


3. .".. achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
(Socialists.....would that be the current Democrats or current Republicans?)


4. Mussolini's election to the Executive was part of the capture of control of the Socialist Party by the hard-line Marxist left, ....The shift in Socialist Party control was greeted with delight by Lenin and other revolutionaries throughout the world. From 1912 to 1914, Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.

5. Mussolini and a group of adherents launched the Fascist movement (6) in 1919. Apart from its ardent nationalism and pro-war foreign policy, the Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures...."

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele​

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.
www.la-articles.org.uk

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

He is quoting the author of Fascism, Mussolini himself.

How can you be posting yet know so little?

Aren't you embarrassed?



As the Duce leading the Italian people to the future, Benito Mussolini said that his dictatorial régime of government made Fascist Italy (1922–1943) the representative Totalitarian State: "Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." Likewise, in The Concept of the Political (1927), ...

Totalitarianism - Wikipedia​

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Totalitarianism





Amazing how badly government schooling let you down.

Cool campaign slogan, but nothing he actually said is limited to fascism. Everything he listed is also found in communist countries.

Just between the two of us.....have you ever read a book????



So…you motto is ‘I ain’t much for fancy book-learnin’”

"So you motto is..." Jesus H. Christ, grammar, spelling, you just got it all down pat. Lay off the lead paint chips and glue.

 

[Vrenn]

Not necessarily correct. In fact, not at all correct.

THIS is the motto of Fascism, “Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

Everything else you mentioned is anecdotal. And Hitler was a National Socialist NOT a Fascist, although he did copy a lot of is beliefs from Mussolini who was, in actuality a 'Fascist'.

Adolf was such a socialist that he sent his bully boys (SS) out to arrest and liquidate the Socialist Party members. Hitler was a Fascist who just used a socialist government to seize control. After he had complete control, he input Mussolini's brand of Government. You are still trying to rewrite history to cover up your Orange Cheeto Gawd.

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

I apologize, but I expect a higher level of understanding and knowledge than you seem to evince.




".....you talk in abstractions and vague statements. Please provide some specifics."


Is that what you found in my OP?


1. This quote from Saul Alinsky (late communist), mentor of Democrat lights like Hillary and Obama, in "Rules for Radicals" relates so well to the democrat party today, "accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt."?

Thus, the recent constant use of "fascists" for the other side.


2. Not only is the use of the term 'fascist' the complete oppostite of the truth, but it is appropriate to address it in the light of tomorrow's anniversary:
October 30th, 1922 Benito Mussolini becomes Premier of Italy




From David Ramsey Steele's essay on Fascism and Mussolini:


3. .".. achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
(Socialists.....would that be the current Democrats or current Republicans?)


4. Mussolini's election to the Executive was part of the capture of control of the Socialist Party by the hard-line Marxist left, ....The shift in Socialist Party control was greeted with delight by Lenin and other revolutionaries throughout the world. From 1912 to 1914, Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.

5. Mussolini and a group of adherents launched the Fascist movement (6) in 1919. Apart from its ardent nationalism and pro-war foreign policy, the Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures...."

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele​

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.
www.la-articles.org.uk

Alinsky's tactic isn't limited to fascists, though. Furthermore, it is not to mean that an accusation of fascism is itself evidence of fascism. Finally, while the article correctly points out that Mussolini (and in fact other fascist movements) had his roots in socialist movements, Hitler himself noted that socialism was a movement that was at the time popular, and easy to piggy-back off of.

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

Adolf was such a socialist that he sent his bully boys (SS) out to arrest and liquidate the Socialist Party members. Hitler was a Fascist who just used a socialist government to seize control. After he had complete control, he input Mussolini's brand of Government. You are still trying to rewrite history to cover up your Orange Cheeto Gawd.

Well, to be fair, the Sino-Soviet split, Yugo-Soviet split, are evidence that even socialists don't get along.

 

[PoliticalChic]

OP, can you do the board a favor and post the definition of "fascist?"

Thank you for asking.


"More broadly, fascism may be defined as any totalitarian regime which does not aim at the nationalization of industry but preserves at least nominal private property.

When the Soviet Union and People's China had a falling out in the 1960s, they each promptly discovered that the other fraternal socialist country was not merely capitalist but "fascist."

At the most vulgar level, "fascist" is a handy swear-word for such hated figures as Rush Limbaugh or John Ashcroft who, whatever their faults, are as remote from historical Fascism as anyone in public life today. "
DR Steele.
(As the Left/Democrats have attempted to do with the American Right.




You see the term "totalitarian." Google defines it, and it clearly reflects the anti-Free Speech, excessive regulation and taxation, and arrest of poltical opponents by the Democrats.


" Totalitarian.......relating to a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state.
"a totalitarian regime"




From the Jacobins of the French Revolution, to the Bolsheviks, Maoists, Nazis, Antifa, and the current Democrats........Totalitarians and Fascists.

 

[Vrenn]

I apologize, but I expect a higher level of understanding and knowledge than you seem to evince.




".....you talk in abstractions and vague statements. Please provide some specifics."


Is that what you found in my OP?


1. This quote from Saul Alinsky (late communist), mentor of Democrat lights like Hillary and Obama, in "Rules for Radicals" relates so well to the democrat party today, "accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt."?

Thus, the recent constant use of "fascists" for the other side.


2. Not only is the use of the term 'fascist' the complete oppostite of the truth, but it is appropriate to address it in the light of tomorrow's anniversary:
October 30th, 1922 Benito Mussolini becomes Premier of Italy




From David Ramsey Steele's essay on Fascism and Mussolini:


3. .".. achieving fame as an agitator among the Italian migratory laborers, he was referred to by a local Italian-language newspaper as "the great duce [leader] of the Italian socialists."
(Socialists.....would that be the current Democrats or current Republicans?)


4. Mussolini's election to the Executive was part of the capture of control of the Socialist Party by the hard-line Marxist left, ....The shift in Socialist Party control was greeted with delight by Lenin and other revolutionaries throughout the world. From 1912 to 1914, Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.

5. Mussolini and a group of adherents launched the Fascist movement (6) in 1919. Apart from its ardent nationalism and pro-war foreign policy, the Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures...."

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele

The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele​

THE LIBERTARIAN ALLIANCE is an independent, non-party group, brought together by a shared desire to work for a free society. The Libertarian Alliance is pledged to fight statism in all its forms, and to engage in long range propaganda for the Libertarian alternative.
www.la-articles.org.uk

You are still trying to rewrite history. I can bet that you watched "The Birth of a Nation" from beginning to end and actually believe that it's truthful.

 

[Edgetho]

When I think I've heard it all......seen the depth of their ignorance......I am still amazed.

It's one thing to be ignorant. I am ignorant about most of life's mysteries. I still don't understand the Female of the species. I don't understand FTL (faster than light) Travel and I am ignorant of many more things. Many.

The difference is -- I know it. "Stupid" is when you're ignorant on a subject and not only enter a conversation about the subject, but gleefully argue your ignorance of the subject.

I don't understand people like that but that is one 'ignorance' I am happy for.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Google is your friend

I am afraid that it has been co-opted by the very folks we are addressing.

I find it regularly slants information to the Left.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I am afraid that it has been co-opted by the very folks we are addressing.

I find it regularly slants information to the Left.

If he wants a definition the American far left is a good example

 

[PoliticalChic]

Cool campaign slogan, but nothing he actually said is limited to fascism. Everything he listed is also found in communist countries.

"So you motto is..." Jesus H. Christ, grammar, spelling, you just got it all down pat. Lay off the lead paint chips and glue.

“The Doctrine of Fascism” (1932) by Benito Mussolini​

San Jose State University
https://sjsu.edu › faculty › wooda › Readings › The-...


PDF

by B Mussolini · Cited by 38 — Thus understood,. Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist State — a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values — interprets, develops, and potentates the ...
10 pages





If you ask nicely, I'm certain that some nice adult will help you get a library card.

 

[ZestolPastilevsky]

“The Doctrine of Fascism” (1932) by Benito Mussolini​

San Jose State University
https://sjsu.edu › faculty › wooda › Readings › The-...


PDF

by B Mussolini · Cited by 38 — Thus understood,. Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist State — a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values — interprets, develops, and potentates the ...
10 pages





If you ask nicely, I'm certain that some nice adult will help you get a library card.

France under Louis XIV was arguably totalitarian. Was Louis a fascist?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Adolf was such a socialist that he sent his bully boys (SS) out to arrest and liquidate the Socialist Party members. Hitler was a Fascist who just used a socialist government to seize control. After he had complete control, he input Mussolini's brand of Government. You are still trying to rewrite history to cover up your Orange Cheeto Gawd.

• Contrary to the term itself, Kamala has stated that illegal aliens are not criminals
• She has stated that she wishes to decriminalize illegally crossing the border, similar to the way Democrats have decriminalized shoplifting.
• She has argued against, not the death penalty, just the death penalty for cop killers
• She favors defunding the police
• She authored a fund to bail out domestic terrorists, called the Minnesota Freedom Fund.
• Joining Communist Bernie Sanders in “Medicare For All,” in which she argues for all private health insurance. BTW, some 220 million Americans have private health insurance, 65% of the population
• Kamala plans to include all the illegals in the Medicare plan
• Eliminate and ban all fracking which produces 64% of the total crude oil produced in the United States in 2023.
• She supported a law which bans arrests for shoplifting under $950.
• She supports indicting Israel for war crimes against Hamas
• Believes in banning internal combustion engines, allowing only electric vehicles.
• As Attn’y General, her office supported Prop 57 that put rapists and murders back on the street after serving a fraction of their sentence
• Supported a state law that keeps parents from knowing about the indoctrination of their children toward gender transition
• When the nation was wracked by Democrat-fueled George Floyd riots Kamala said the riots should not stop:

“As a U.S. senator from California from 2017 to 2021, she had a more leftist voting record even than socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders, Vermont independent.” Harris had a more leftist voting record in Senate than Sanders

Kamala wrote “Trump supports a national abortion ban.” Of course that is a lie. Kamala Harris na Instagramie : "Donald Trump supports a national abortion ban. President @JoeBiden and I will do everything in our power to stop him and restore women's reproductive freedom."

Kamala was the deciding vote on the $1.9T American Rescue Plan that caused this inflation. Now prices are up nearly 30%.
Or this?
Under Trump gasoline was about $1.80 a gallon….but you voted against that

Under Trump we were energy independent….but you voted against that.

Under Trump 80% of illegal alien were kept in Mexico….but you voted against that.

Under Trump inflation was 1.4%….but you voted against that.

Under Trump crime was far lower, as were homicides….but you voted against that.

Under Trump Iran was kept in a box….but you voted against that.

Under Trump America had an airbase near both China and Iran….but you voted against that.

Under Trump our President wasn’t on China’s payroll….but you voted against that.

Under Trump cartels weren’t free to operate….but you voted against that.

Under Trump government didn’t favor racism, CRT, gender mutilation….but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have confiscatory tax policy….but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have a government working with big tech to end free speech….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, Putin didn’t invade Ukraine….but you voted against that

Under Trump, the savages of Hamas didn’t dare to slaughter concert goers….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, peace in the Middle East….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, three peace treaties between Israel and their Arab neighbors…..but you voted against that.

Under Trump, securing our borders and not waiving in murderous MS13 gang members…..but you voted against that

Under Trump we avoided some 100,000 fatal drug overdoses…but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have lawfare, a legal system corrupted to use fake charges against political enemies….but you voted for Lawfare.

Under Trump, his side didn’t try to imprison or assassinate opponents.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Alinsky's tactic isn't limited to fascists, though. Furthermore, it is not to mean that an accusation of fascism is itself evidence of fascism. Finally, while the article correctly points out that Mussolini (and in fact other fascist movements) had his roots in socialist movements, Hitler himself noted that socialism was a movement that was at the time popular, and easy to piggy-back off of.

You accused me of "".....you talk in abstractions and vague statements. Please provide some specifics."


Seems you lied, and would like to change the subject.


Apology?