Yes. The man was obviously suffering from severe mental problems. My remark was in reference to the previous poster who pointed out that a senior researcher at the Pew Research Center was a Muslim, as if that was supposed to make all of their reports questionable.
I'm glad you brought that up because we were discussing the population of Muslims in the USA not Europe. We were also discussing how you arrived at the number of 3.3 million Muslims in America and that the man who provided the numbers for that particular research was in fact, a Muslim. Again the entire discussion was about Muslim immigration to America so why was this thread moved to the Europe forum?
No Idea about the move, but why do you think the Pew Research Center is not valid just because a Muslim works there. Is the Pew Research Center a terrorist organization too?
I question his honesty and question whether or not he was able to be neutral about his discovery (was he asked to lower the number by someone outside of Pew Research Center?). He claims his research finds 3.3 million Muslims in America total? I disagree with that number. It seems extremely low. Put a zero behind the 3 (30.3 million) and I believe he'd be a lot closer,
BULLDOG. I would suggest you do your own research and not rely on that singular source for the answer.
Bottom line the vetting process for Muslims immigrating to the United States (which is what we are talking about here) needs to be improved. What we have now simply is not working if you consider the case Political Chic presented in the OP. It's endangering the lives of Americans. I know you disagree with Trump's temporary ban on Muslims coming from certain countries (until they could figure out what is going on) but if he didn't do it and something happened - he'd never hear the end of it. Nor should he. He's the president and part of his job is to make sure this country is safe from unnecessary threats.
Who, outside of the Pew Research Center asked him to lower that number, and how did you find out about that? You'v made it clear that you disagree with his number, but you haven't given credible reason why. An offhand remark in 2004, and statements that the number could be as high as 7 times that much are supported by any facts and not credible. The first thing that you and that fool should figure out is that no terrorist attacks in the US from those countries have occurred. You are the victim of more right wing fake news, and you don't even care when it is shown to you.
Read it again,
BULLDOG. I asked a question. I didn't make a statement. I asked, Was he asked by someone outside of Pew Research to lower the number? A question is a question. Don't read into it what isn't there. On the matter of numbers, I mentioned Don Richardson's book and Ariana Fallaci's book, The rage and the pride. Both books were written many years ago. So how do numbers go down and not up when we are hearing about immigrants coming here - not leaving? I feel it is a valid question. Perhaps you could read their books. That is where I got my information from. Unless a journalist did a book review on their books I have no idea if they ever published their research.
I did look up some numbers from an article written in 2009. According to this news source the number of Muslims in the USA in 2009 was 6 million Muslims (and that too is far too low) yet Basheer Mohammad of Pew Research claims there were 3.3 million in 2015. Correct?
Look at this:
America's Muslims after 9/11
America's Muslims after 9/11
Last Updated: October 31, 2009 3:35 PM
The 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States have had a worldwide impact. The effect on the Islamic world has been especially complex because the terrorists were Muslims.
The United States has an estimated six million Muslims. More than half of them are Arabs. Muslims living in this country are more educated and tend to have higher incomes than average Americans. Unlike Muslim minorities in Europe, American Muslims are generally more assimilated into mainstream society.
When terrorists struck New York and Washington five years ago, U.S. Muslims were as shocked and horrified as other Americans. But in addition to coping with terror, many Muslims say they had to deal with the pain of being shunned by their fellow Americans.
"You would walk down the street and you could be physically attacked," says Nidal Ibrahim is Executive Director of the Arab-American Institute in Washington.
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So we see that no one argued the number was six million Muslims living in the USA in 2009. The Muslim interviewed, Nidal Ibrahim was an executive director of the Arab - American Institute. He didn't disagree with the number reported (6 million) for the story, did he?
So now six years later half the Muslims in America left? No. The Muslim immigration to America has continued and increased. It didn't decrease. You see my point? You can't say you've got 6 million Muslims in the USA verified in 2009 and claim there are 3.3 Million living here in 2015 (6 years later). As I said before something doesn't add up.
Thanks for asking. Goodnight.
