Time to form a moderate party

[JakeStarkey]

Not at all. John, America rejected the far right reactionary portion of the Romney campaign. You guys scared the shit out of the rest of America. GOP must reach out meaningfully to women, minorities, and Hispanics.

What the GOP has to do is fight back against hyperbolic characterizations from a sycophantic press securely ensconced within the DNC's rectum.

In other words, you love living in Rush's rectum, got it.

Now to the point: as the women, Hispanic, and minority vote dwarfs that of the far right reactionaries, the point remains that based on numbers, the reactionaries have to adapt and compromise.

 

[bendog]

Not at all. John, America rejected the far right reactionary portion of the Romney campaign. You guys scared the shit out of the rest of America. GOP must reach out meaningfully to women, minorities, and Hispanics.

What the GOP has to do is fight back against hyperbolic characterizations from a sycophantic press securely ensconced within the DNC's rectum.

In other words, you love living in Rush's rectum, got it.

Now to the point: as the women, Hispanic, and minority vote dwarfs that of the far right reactionaries, the point remains that based on numbers, the reactionaries have to adapt and compromise.

I read that something like 2/3's of gopers support some path to citizenship. It's true Rushbo, Beck , coulter et al have hijacked the ideology, and we even have a gop rep from Fla named yahoo or something spouting birther stuff and complaining obamacare is racist for taxing tanning salons. And, you can't make up shit this crazy. And, Mitt still doesn't get what was racist in "self-deportation" or class hate in "47%," but he's just a tone deaf uber rich guy trying to pander to the nuts.

There's nothing crazy in not liking obamacare and even thinking we can cut more spending. The question for the gop may simply be how far the primary voters will push candidates to crazy. I don't think Hill is inevitable, but if the gop trots out another Herman Cain, she probably is.

 

[whitehall]

The term "political moderate" has two meanings. A moderate is a republican who caves into democrat demands. A moderate is also a politician who has no core values. He is motivated by money and power.

 

[bendog]

Reagan compromised, esp after the 82 election. He didn't like medicare, but he increased taxes for it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The term "political moderate" has two meanings. A moderate is a republican who caves into democrat demands. A moderate is also a politician who has no core values. He is motivated by money and power.

Correction: a moderate has core American values that escaped the meaninglessness of the far right reactionaries, who are motivated by money and power.

 

[kaz]

The term "political moderate" has two meanings. A moderate is a republican who caves into democrat demands. A moderate is also a politician who has no core values. He is motivated by money and power.

Correction: a moderate has core American values that escaped the meaninglessness of the far right reactionaries, who are motivated by money and power.

And leftists like you are motivated by greed, jealousy and laziness

 

[kaz]

It's true Rushbo, Beck , coulter et al have hijacked the ideology

Actually their position is to plug the hole in the boat before we start bailing. What a bunch of wackos....

 

[JakeStarkey]

Kaz has revealed a meaningless political and cultural life, as he avows RushSeanGlenn are the saviors of America.

 

[bendog]

The term "political moderate" has two meanings. A moderate is a republican who caves into democrat demands. A moderate is also a politician who has no core values. He is motivated by money and power.

Correction: a moderate has core American values that escaped the meaninglessness of the far right reactionaries, who are motivated by money and power.

I don't think there are any moderates. Christie seems to be a moderate to the RW nutters in that he actually thinks govt should send aid to natl disasters, even if we pay for it later by raising taxes, and it's ok to agree with a dem if you actually agree on an issue. This despite he cut spending and took out the public unions, and doesn't like obamacare.

W is in disfavor for his spending, but he couldn't have won the 12 nomination with his positions on immigration and education. That's right, he's too moderate on social issues for these guys.

 

[bendog]

yeah, kaz the whole birther thing has really improved the intellectual integrity of the gop's ideology.

 

[thanatos144]

yeah, kaz the whole birther thing has really improved the intellectual integrity of the gop's ideology.

You do know those were libertarians right?

 

[bendog]

yeah, kaz the whole birther thing has really improved the intellectual integrity of the gop's ideology.

You do know those were libertarians right?

I don't know that there are any actual libertarians in the gop. I certainly don't consider any of those pundints libertarian. They're SHYSTERS AND HUCKSTERS. Even William F. Buckley wouldn't wipe his arse with their trash.

There's libertarian bent to Paul and Ryan, but neither of those guys have actually made serious proposals. You just can't cover the uninsured or contain costs if you're gonna say the fed govt has to stay out of market based healthcare. I mean TOM COBURN AND BARRASSO of Wyo know that. It they aren't conservative enough for the gop, maybe they should just fold their teeny tiny tent for natl elections.

 

[thanatos144]

yeah, kaz the whole birther thing has really improved the intellectual integrity of the gop's ideology.

You do know those were libertarians right?

I don't know that there are any actual libertarians in the gop. I certainly don't consider any of those pundints libertarian. They're SHYSTERS AND HUCKSTERS. Even William F. Buckley wouldn't wipe his arse with their trash.

There's libertarian bent to Paul and Ryan, but neither of those guys have actually made serious proposals. You just can't cover the uninsured or contain costs if you're gonna say the fed govt has to stay out of market based healthcare. I mean TOM COBURN AND BARRASSO of Wyo know that. It they aren't conservative enough for the gop, maybe they should just fold their teeny tiny tent for natl elections.

Ron Paul is liberaltarian as they come....His son is as well.

 

[kaz]

yeah, kaz the whole birther thing has really improved the intellectual integrity of the gop's ideology.

Um...OK. Apply the rantings of a few wackos to the whole Republican party while the Democratic party socialist wackos are the mainstream of the Democratic party.

I'll pass on that stupid conversation.

 

[kaz]

You do know those were libertarians right?

I don't know that there are any actual libertarians in the gop. I certainly don't consider any of those pundints libertarian. They're SHYSTERS AND HUCKSTERS. Even William F. Buckley wouldn't wipe his arse with their trash.

There's libertarian bent to Paul and Ryan, but neither of those guys have actually made serious proposals. You just can't cover the uninsured or contain costs if you're gonna say the fed govt has to stay out of market based healthcare. I mean TOM COBURN AND BARRASSO of Wyo know that. It they aren't conservative enough for the gop, maybe they should just fold their teeny tiny tent for natl elections.

Ron Paul is liberaltarian as they come....His son is as well.

No, they aren't.

 

[bendog]

One cannot be a libertarian and be anti-choice.

 

[Flopper]

The term "political moderate" has two meanings. A moderate is a republican who caves into democrat demands. A moderate is also a politician who has no core values. He is motivated by money and power.

It also means a person who is not violent or subject to extremes. Only a fool would argue that America needs more violent extremest.

moderate - definition of moderate by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

 

[JohnL.Burke]

Not at all. John, America rejected the far right reactionary portion of the Romney campaign. You guys scared the shit out of the rest of America. GOP must reach out meaningfully to women, minorities, and Hispanics.

What the GOP has to do is fight back against hyperbolic characterizations from a sycophantic press securely ensconced within the DNC's rectum.

In other words, you love living in Rush's rectum, got it.

Now to the point: as the women, Hispanic, and minority vote dwarfs that of the far right reactionaries, the point remains that based on numbers, the reactionaries have to adapt and compromise.

For your information, Rush's rectum is fully furnished and comes with a swimming pool.
You also seem extremely reactionary when your first defense of a corrupt and biased press is to play the Rush card. Is this the part where I play the Soros card? I can play this game all day long but I have to go to work since Rush's rectum rent is very expensive.
I suppose we're simply going to disagree on which avenue the republican party should take. I believe the GOP should learn how to fight back in a more efficient and technologically modern way (stealing Obama's election playbook). You believe it is the evil fringe "extremists" that has dragged the GOP down.
Riddle me this Assman, from what I'm supposed to believe, the Tea Party types drag the republican party down but OWS (filled with anti-semitism, rape, drugs, violence, public defecation, vandalism and far left pious filled speeches on an evil America and Jew owned banks) doesn't cause a dent in the DNC's proud standing with the community.
For a republican nominee to win, he's going to have to micro target voters. Fight back against the notion that unemployment is good for the economy. Fight back against the stereotypes that people like you and the press always trot out when convenient. The republican candidate will also have to grow a pair (he our she) and not just go along to get along (the Romney,McCain,Dole tactics). A good message focused on fixing the economy while not letting the press define the republican candidate as modern day technology (such as micro targeting) is being engaged should be a good start.
p.s.
George Soros's rectum just called, he want's to know when your coming home for dinner.

 

[JakeStarkey]

JohnL, you are entitled to your delusions, but thinking Americans don't buy the right wing reactonaries' nonsense and threatening anymore. The GOP will not change for you, you will change for the GOP. And you are right: the OWS did not frighten the great mainstream of Americans because it was aimed at banking and such institutions as the TPM was aimed at humans.

 

[NightFox]

One cannot be a libertarian and be anti-choice.

That's certainly untrue if you're referring to abortion (i.e. "anti-choice"), the proposition of many (most?) "anti-choice" libertarians is that it's murder which violates the very fountainhead of all libertarian principles (the principle of non-aggression). Personally I don't happen to agree with them on that particular question but their position doesn't make them any less libertarian.