Time to attack iran

[Kevin_Kennedy]

this is where you look extremely foolish, and i am talking about a new sector of the foolishness scale.

kevin kennedy does not attack or insult or anything of the kind. he stays extremely calm, i personally think he is a robot, since he denied being a zen master, sorry kevin .

You think by repeating the same line in post after post is not trolling? Most forums would have banned his ass for doing that...and ignoring all posts directed at him.

Sorry, but if you think baiting and trolling is being "calm," you must spend too much time at shitty forums that are not moderated well.

you said attacking. this is basically your main MO. you state something, get called on it, get all defensive and hurl insults. if you skip this part, like you do with me now (why actually?) you switch the topic, in this case from "attacking" to "trolling". i cannot remember. did kevin really just repeat the same question or statement, AND you tried to answer it?

because if that was the case, i could understand your frustration. there are several posters on this board who do this, repeating the same shit all over again, ignoring the answers, and repeating the shit in other threads, too. and then claim, "why is it that no one answers my awesome question. that means I win!!1!"

sorry got carried away in the last part, could almsot be characterized as a switch.

ETA: kevin got this!! too late again, i should type faster and think less, merge with the crowd and stuff

http://www.usmessageboard.com/iran/81655-no-evidence-iran-seeking-nuclear-weapons.html

There's the link to the thread in question where I supposedly just repeated the same thing over and over. You may review it yourself if you like. I will say that I did have to keep repeating the fact because it was never addressed.

 

[L.K.Eder]

You think by repeating the same line in post after post is not trolling? Most forums would have banned his ass for doing that...and ignoring all posts directed at him.

Sorry, but if you think baiting and trolling is being "calm," you must spend too much time at shitty forums that are not moderated well.

you said attacking. this is basically your main MO. you state something, get called on it, get all defensive and hurl insults. if you skip this part, like you do with me now (why actually?) you switch the topic, in this case from "attacking" to "trolling". i cannot remember. did kevin really just repeat the same question or statement, AND you tried to answer it?

because if that was the case, i could understand your frustration. there are several posters on this board who do this, repeating the same shit all over again, ignoring the answers, and repeating the shit in other threads, too. and then claim, "why is it that no one answers my awesome question. that means I win!!1!"

sorry got carried away in the last part, could almsot be characterized as a switch.

ETA: kevin got this!! too late again, i should type faster and think less, merge with the crowd and stuff

http://www.usmessageboard.com/iran/81655-no-evidence-iran-seeking-nuclear-weapons.html

There's the link to the thread in question where I supposedly just repeated the same thing over and over. You may review it yourself if you like. I will say that I did have to keep repeating the fact because it was never addressed.

ah yes, now i remember. i am in some kind of a "new relationship" with rhodescholar since i got his attention by posting something he agreed with. and i wanted to be correct in my accusations.

that was a fun thread. i was your sock puppet, .

the interesting thing is, you are technically right, there is no evidence, but rhodescholar was also right, there could be no evidence because they did not let them search everywhere, haha. this makes it even funnier.

 

[del]

I've attacked somebody? Did you have any evidence of that?

Good strawman, where did i accuse you of that? Or are you so full of shit you need to lie to try to bait me into insulting you?

you're killing me, cap'n.


are you familiar with the concept of "irony"?

 

[L.K.Eder]

I've attacked somebody? Did you have any evidence of that?

Good strawman, where did i accuse you of that? Or are you so full of shit you need to lie to try to bait me into insulting you?

you're killing me, cap'n.


are you familiar with the concept of "irony"?

he is not, and you are not helping, but i can't blame you, it is low hanging fruit.

 

[goldcatt]

Good strawman, where did i accuse you of that? Or are you so full of shit you need to lie to try to bait me into insulting you?

you're killing me, cap'n.


are you familiar with the concept of "irony"?

he is not, and you are not helping, but i can't blame you, it is low hanging fruit.

That it is.

 

[rhodescholar]

ah yes, now i remember. i am in some kind of a "new relationship" with rhodescholar since i got his attention by posting something he agreed with. and i wanted to be correct in my accusations.

As i said, I will be civil to those who are in kind.

You are one of those odd posters, who make total sense in one post, and go off the deep end in another. And I am not kindly to you simply because "I agreed with you", it was because you posted something that you backed up with facts and thoughtfulness.

the interesting thing is, you are technically right, there is no evidence, but rhodescholar was also right, there could be no evidence because they did not let them search everywhere, haha. this makes it even funnier.

THAT is all I was trying to get across, that one poster is spouting something absurd, like "there is no evidence," when it was obvious even to a child that of course there would be no evidence if those tasked with searching for it were blocked. This is not a deep concept, but the other poster refused to accept this obvious point, and continued to spout nonsense no matter who directed a question/response to them. That is trolling, plain and simple...

Not sure why you found it funny, but at least you have the character to recognize the absurdity of it...

 

[L.K.Eder]

ah yes, now i remember. i am in some kind of a "new relationship" with rhodescholar since i got his attention by posting something he agreed with. and i wanted to be correct in my accusations.

As i said, I will be civil to those who are in kind.

You are one of those odd posters, who make total sense in one post, and go off the deep end in another. And I am not kindly to you simply because "I agreed with you", it was because you posted something that you backed up with facts and thoughtfulness.

the interesting thing is, you are technically right, there is no evidence, but rhodescholar was also right, there could be no evidence because they did not let them search everywhere, haha. this makes it even funnier.

THAT is all I was trying to get across, that one poster is spouting something absurd, like "there is no evidence," when it was obvious even to a child that of course there would be no evidence if those tasked with searching for it were blocked. This is not a deep concept, but the other poster refused to accept this obvious point, and continued to spout nonsense no matter who directed a question/response to them. That is trolling, plain and simple...

Not sure why you found it funny, but at least you have the character to recognize the absurdity of it...

the funny part is that your ineptitude at social interaction keeps you from having decent conversations. whenever i was challenged or challenged you i posted sources that supported my opinions. you on the other hand just evaded by posting hastily found sources which did not support your opinions, deflected, back-paddled, insulted and claimed victory.

not much of a show of maturity while calling me some equivalent of a female teenage social parasite sock puppet with no knowledge, right?

 

[rhodescholar]

the funny part is that your ineptitude at social interaction keeps you from having decent conversations. whenever i was challenged or challenged you i posted sources that supported my opinions. you on the other hand just evaded by posting hastily found sources which did not support your opinions, deflected, back-paddled, insulted and claimed victory.

not much of a show of maturity while calling me some equivalent of a female teenage social parasite sock puppet with no knowledge, right?

Why are you giving me shit for allegedly not responding to your posts, but you think it was funny that KK did the same?

 

[L.K.Eder]

the funny part is that your ineptitude at social interaction keeps you from having decent conversations. whenever i was challenged or challenged you i posted sources that supported my opinions. you on the other hand just evaded by posting hastily found sources which did not support your opinions, deflected, back-paddled, insulted and claimed victory.

not much of a show of maturity while calling me some equivalent of a female teenage social parasite sock puppet with no knowledge, right?

Why are you giving me shit for allegedly not responding to your posts, but you think it was funny that KK did the same?

huh?

i was just giving you "shit" for declaring you will no longer interact with me on the other thread while having a civil conversation with me here. but where did i give you shit for not responding to your posts?

our first encounter was about the number of palestinians among the basij.

 

[rhodescholar]

i was just giving you "shit" for declaring you will no longer interact with me on the other thread while having a civil conversation with me here. but where did i give you shit for not responding to your posts?

I reserve the right to respond at my discretion. If I think someone has written something intelligent, I'll respond... but the fact remains that you attacked me for evasion, yet KK did far worse, and you found it funny...

 

[L.K.Eder]

i was just giving you "shit" for declaring you will no longer interact with me on the other thread while having a civil conversation with me here. but where did i give you shit for not responding to your posts?

I reserve the right to respond at my discretion. If I think someone has written something intelligent, I'll respond... but the fact remains that you attacked me for evasion, yet KK did far worse, and you found it funny...

in the bolded part you excuse past and announced future evasions. this has nothing to do with Kevin Kennedy. I judged you by the interaction you had with me on one of the first encounters, where you could not back up your claim about the palestinians among the basij, evaded, presented bad sources, and claimed victory even in other threads. you never manned up and admitted your agenda-driven exaggeration.

now you actually take me kind of seriously, so i am a little bit surprised.

 

[rhodescholar]

in the bolded part you excuse past and announced future evasions. this has nothing to do with Kevin Kennedy. I judged you by the interaction you had with me on one of the first encounters, where you could not back up your claim about the palestinians among the basij, evaded, presented bad sources, and claimed victory even in other threads. you never manned up and admitted your agenda-driven exaggeration.

now you actually take me kind of seriously, so i am a little bit surprised.

Now i remember the conversation, the fact remained that you chose to not accept what was in the jerusalem post, a very mainstream newspaper, and that's your choice.

The fact that YOU decided not to accept it does not diminish me at all. I recall you demanding sources, and I joked that that article happened to appear moments after. That does not sound like an evasion to me, as i presented what most would accept as a MSM news article, but you didn't. So then you attacked me for posting it, perhaps out of anger that I did have evidence to back up my claim, but if you want to call the J-post a "bad source", well then I do not know what to tell you.

And given that I spend far more time in iranian web sites, it was from them that i learned that there was lebanese and pals amongst the basij... it wasn't something that i just felt like making up. You want to challenge people who would run circles around me or anyone else here who thinks they know shit about iran, go here:

Iran Defense Forum - Powered by vBulletin

You can join, but do NOT fuck around there, they will ban your ass VERY quick. These are almost all native born iranians, and do not take kindly to outsiders who do not know what they are talking about, or try to pretend the current regime is legit, etc.

I'd recommend doing a search on the forum first, and looking around and learning, before trying to post...

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Edit:

I just did a search there, and found this thread to save you a bit of time:

http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=49496&highlight=lebanese+basij

These people all have family in iran, and know what they are talking about. Now if you go in and start dicking around, saying they're full of it, you will be bounced in a heartbeat....as i said, read alot of it first...

 

[L.K.Eder]

in the bolded part you excuse past and announced future evasions. this has nothing to do with Kevin Kennedy. I judged you by the interaction you had with me on one of the first encounters, where you could not back up your claim about the palestinians among the basij, evaded, presented bad sources, and claimed victory even in other threads. you never manned up and admitted your agenda-driven exaggeration.

now you actually take me kind of seriously, so i am a little bit surprised.

Now i remember the conversation, the fact remained that you chose to not accept what was in the jerusalem post, a very mainstream newspaper, and that's your choice.

The fact that YOU decided not to accept it does not diminish me at all. I recall you demanding sources, and I joked that that article happened to appear moments after. That does not sound like an evasion to me, as i presented what most would accept as a MSM news article, but you didn't. So then you attacked me for posting it, perhaps out of anger that I did have evidence to back up my claim, but if you want to call the J-post a "bad source", well then I do not know what to tell you.

And given that I spend far more time in iranian web sites, it was from them that i learned that there was lebanese and pals amongst the basij... it wasn't something that i just felt like making up. You want to challenge people who would run circles around me or anyone else here who thinks they know shit about iran, go here:

Iran Defense Forum - Powered by vBulletin

You can join, but do NOT fuck around there, they will ban your ass VERY quick. These are almost all native born iranians, and do not take kindly to outsiders who do not know what they are talking about, or try to pretend the current regime is legit, etc.

I'd recommend doing a search on the forum first, and looking around and learning, before trying to post...

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Edit:

I just did a search there, and found this thread to save you a bit of time:

Could this be true..Basij = Hezbollah? - Iran Defense Forum

These people all have family in iran, and know what they are talking about. Now if you go in and start dicking around, saying they're full of it, you will be bounced in a heartbeat....as i said, read alot of it first...

your J-Post "source" was not valid, because it only reported someone telling about some alleged arabic speaking thugs. still did not make it "primarily" palestinian, in this exercise i just wanted you to retract this exaggeration.

interesting, i just skimmed the thread. they said the same i was saying. l o l. no support for your exaggeration that the basij were made up primarily of palestinians. they cited the german source, you know. about 5000 Lebanese, allegedly. some hearsay that some thugs were speaking arabic, i did never contest that possibilty.

i won't join there, why would i, i am still not sure what i am doing here on USMB, but if i would join, i would survey the scene, test the water, and certainly wouldn't behave like a dick. i would reserve that for later.

 

[rhodescholar]

your J-Post "source" was not valid, because it only reported someone telling about some alleged arabic speaking thugs.

Now you are sounding like KK...if iran blocked/arrested most/all journalists, and basically shut the web down, what kind of sourcing would you expect?

These people have family there, and would know better than anyone... alot of these people were VERY supportive of the regime until this election, so it is not as if they were zionist plotters or something like that... it was when their family members started getting attacked did they say the regime was not legitimate anymore...

 

[L.K.Eder]

your J-Post "source" was not valid, because it only reported someone telling about some alleged arabic speaking thugs.

Now you are sounding like KK...if iran blocked/arrested most/all journalists, and basically shut the web down, what kind of sourcing would you expect?

These people have family there, and would know better than anyone... alot of these people were VERY supportive of the regime until this election, so it is not as if they were zionist plotters or something like that... it was when their family members started getting attacked did they say the regime was not legitimate anymore...

yeah that is kind of a catch-22.

but still the probability of the basij being primarily made up of palestinians who do the dirty muscle work is slim, and if you state something like that, you've shouldered the burden of proof, your decision, not mine.

you could have back tracked right there, and i would have left you alone.

it is actually understandable for iranians to try to blame outside forces for this atrocities, it is hard to swallow that your friends get beaten and killed maybe by guys from your same neigborhood. better to blame palestinians or lebanese thugs. there may be some outsiders, but most basij are iranians, that is a fact.

 

[rhodescholar]

yeah that is kind of a catch-22.

but still the probability of the basij being primarily made up of palestinians who do the dirty muscle work is slim, and if you state something like that, you've shouldered the burden of proof, your decision, not mine.

you could have back tracked right there, and i would have left you alone.

it is actually understandable for iranians to try to blame outside forces for this atrocities, it is hard to swallow that your friends get beaten and killed maybe by guys from your same neigborhood. better to blame palestinians or lebanese thugs. there may be some outsiders, but most basij are iranians, that is a fact.

Lets be honest here... if i had said MANY were arabs, would you have not focused on me for days.... Something tells me I am not so sure...

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Hey Rhoad Kill you don't play the victim very well it is all very seamly. You are just a REICH WING douchebag. You threatened to sick the moderators on me and I told you to go fuck yourself. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Poor poor sad pathetic little Rhoad Kill we should all weep for how poorly you have been treated.

 

[Nik]

in the bolded part you excuse past and announced future evasions. this has nothing to do with Kevin Kennedy. I judged you by the interaction you had with me on one of the first encounters, where you could not back up your claim about the palestinians among the basij, evaded, presented bad sources, and claimed victory even in other threads. you never manned up and admitted your agenda-driven exaggeration.

now you actually take me kind of seriously, so i am a little bit surprised.

Now i remember the conversation, the fact remained that you chose to not accept what was in the jerusalem post, a very mainstream newspaper, and that's your choice.

The fact that YOU decided not to accept it does not diminish me at all. I recall you demanding sources, and I joked that that article happened to appear moments after. That does not sound like an evasion to me, as i presented what most would accept as a MSM news article, but you didn't. So then you attacked me for posting it, perhaps out of anger that I did have evidence to back up my claim, but if you want to call the J-post a "bad source", well then I do not know what to tell you.

And given that I spend far more time in iranian web sites, it was from them that i learned that there was lebanese and pals amongst the basij... it wasn't something that i just felt like making up. You want to challenge people who would run circles around me or anyone else here who thinks they know shit about iran, go here:

Iran Defense Forum - Powered by vBulletin

You can join, but do NOT fuck around there, they will ban your ass VERY quick. These are almost all native born iranians, and do not take kindly to outsiders who do not know what they are talking about, or try to pretend the current regime is legit, etc.

I'd recommend doing a search on the forum first, and looking around and learning, before trying to post...

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Edit:

I just did a search there, and found this thread to save you a bit of time:

Could this be true..Basij = Hezbollah? - Iran Defense Forum

These people all have family in iran, and know what they are talking about. Now if you go in and start dicking around, saying they're full of it, you will be bounced in a heartbeat....as i said, read alot of it first...

Actually I recall you saying that the majority, or a large portion of the Basij were made up of Palestinians. In defense of this proposition you posted a Jerusalem post article that cited a few individuals saying they saw some Palestinian Basij. Funny that this story still hasn't come out, weeks later.

 

[Nik]

in the bolded part you excuse past and announced future evasions. this has nothing to do with Kevin Kennedy. I judged you by the interaction you had with me on one of the first encounters, where you could not back up your claim about the palestinians among the basij, evaded, presented bad sources, and claimed victory even in other threads. you never manned up and admitted your agenda-driven exaggeration.

now you actually take me kind of seriously, so i am a little bit surprised.

Now i remember the conversation, the fact remained that you chose to not accept what was in the jerusalem post, a very mainstream newspaper, and that's your choice.

The fact that YOU decided not to accept it does not diminish me at all. I recall you demanding sources, and I joked that that article happened to appear moments after. That does not sound like an evasion to me, as i presented what most would accept as a MSM news article, but you didn't. So then you attacked me for posting it, perhaps out of anger that I did have evidence to back up my claim, but if you want to call the J-post a "bad source", well then I do not know what to tell you.

And given that I spend far more time in iranian web sites, it was from them that i learned that there was lebanese and pals amongst the basij... it wasn't something that i just felt like making up. You want to challenge people who would run circles around me or anyone else here who thinks they know shit about iran, go here:

Iran Defense Forum - Powered by vBulletin

You can join, but do NOT fuck around there, they will ban your ass VERY quick. These are almost all native born iranians, and do not take kindly to outsiders who do not know what they are talking about, or try to pretend the current regime is legit, etc.

I'd recommend doing a search on the forum first, and looking around and learning, before trying to post...

------

Edit:

I just did a search there, and found this thread to save you a bit of time:

Could this be true..Basij = Hezbollah? - Iran Defense Forum

These people all have family in iran, and know what they are talking about. Now if you go in and start dicking around, saying they're full of it, you will be bounced in a heartbeat....as i said, read alot of it first...

your J-Post "source" was not valid, because it only reported someone telling about some alleged arabic speaking thugs. still did not make it "primarily" palestinian, in this exercise i just wanted you to retract this exaggeration.

interesting, i just skimmed the thread. they said the same i was saying. l o l. no support for your exaggeration that the basij were made up primarily of palestinians. they cited the german source, you know. about 5000 Lebanese, allegedly. some hearsay that some thugs were speaking arabic, i did never contest that possibilty.

i won't join there, why would i, i am still not sure what i am doing here on USMB, but if i would join, i would survey the scene, test the water, and certainly wouldn't behave like a dick. i would reserve that for later.

Seconded. Some choice quotes from the thread that Rhoades posted in support of the proposition that there are many Palestinian Basij in Iran.

Election or no election. Same people that are spreading these claims against Hezb'Allah are the same people who always opposed Hezb'Allah.

And while it's really laughable, its not as laughable as the claim they are Palestinians. Because somehow, ahmadinejad, who can not help Palestinians get out of Gaza to get medical treatment, was able to organize and get out a group of Palestinians to help him beat down rioters.

IMO they are Iraqi refugees, there are half a million of so alone in Tehran I heard, this is highly possible.

What a BS, first of all Basij are Iranian citizens and they have 90,000 active members (why need 5,000 extra). Secondly the only reason you are saying this is that you are confusing Anser-e-Hezbollah with Hezbollah because of the name though they have nothing to do with each other. Thirdly, Hezbollah is a Lebanese group, not Palestinian. Fourth, Hezbollah has ~1,000 fighters and during the war with Israel they had mobilised a total of ~3,000 men, how the hell are they gonna send 5,000 to Iran? Fifth, Hezbollah are insurgents, that's where they are trained for, not anti-rioting. Sixth, those Basijis and Ansaris which have been heared speaking Arabic, are Iraqi Shi'as who fled Iraq during Saddam for Iran and they are Iranian citizens now, they were not imported for anti-rioting.