sakinago
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Yes and yes. The oceans absorbing it part is something our genius climate scientist just recently found out. But do you believe the biggest alarmist on co2 emissions are doing anything real about it?When an invasive species comes into a new environment, does it show any remorse, signs of hesitation, signs of putting itself in check? A better question is why have the term invasive species if nature is "perfect"? They do not care what damage they do to the environment. And before you blame humans for invasive species, it happens in nature, naturally all the time. Do beavers show any remorse for damning? What natural predator did the bison have before humans to keep them in check? And would there be any less cattle had there been no humans? Like I said bison were doing quite well. Wildabeast are dominating Africa. Do they care? Noooo, they're quite happy. They are too stupid to have any idea or concept of what they are doing in the realm of the environment, again "environment" a concept that they have no grasp of. Are they still somehow smarter than us now? Because they might have some unknown knowledge of running on four legs that we just can't grasp?Animals dont act in a manner that destroys their environment. if you have an example please explain. Youre claim that they do is not sufficient evidence. Yes nature is perfect. Of course all animals including humans emit CO2. You were citing the percentage of CO2 cattle emit as an example that animals harm their environment but neglecting to realize it was a direct result of human intervention, breeding, and clearing of forests. I think your mistaken. if those animals extincted each other their own extinction would swiftly follow. Nature has checks and balances.They do not act in a way to preserve their environment! They act in the opposite manner!! You have this Bambi view of nature where it's all perfect, and animals have these great intentions. THAT IS NOT REALITY. They only act in a way to survive and reproduce. The only reason I brought up cattle and their CO2 emissions is because that's been the only quantified animal on CO2 emissions, because they are the only taxable one. ALL AEROBIC ANIMAL ORGANISMS ARE EMITTING CO2. There is no study of wildabeast, lion, bison, elk, wolf, deer, etc emissions. If we weren't here they'd still be emitting. All the animals I listed would completely extinct any and all species around them in order to spread more.You could say flying requires a lower level of intelligence, a feat that birds couldnt train humans to do as a trick. I'm not implying animals have inherent anything. No one knows what they are thinking and no one can prove they are not thinking about keeping their environment clean. Of course they act in a way to preserve their environment. They dont do anything to mess it up. You keep bringing up cattle which I have already pointed out is a problem caused by humans not the animals. Left to their own devices they wouldnt cause that much Co2 emmisions. Human cause this by over breeding by force and manipulating nature.It requires what we consider a lower level of intelligence to drive a car, a feat that we couldn't even train animals to do as a trick. You also are implying that animals have some inherent knowledge to the evils of automobiles, and this is their reason for not driving a car. Also that they have some concept of being environmentally conscious, which is not based in reality. They react simply in a way to survive, not in a way to preserve their environment. If the cattle population is cause for 30% of carbon emissions (think about that), what are the carbon emissions from every other aerobic organism on the planet? What sort of damage is the out of control wildabeast, rodent, cat, or vulture populations doing? Do they have any concept of what they are doing?
And if you recognize that all animals do emit co2, then what percentage do the wild animals in the us emit over the domesticated? Is it more or less than cattle? Now apply that number to the entire animal animal population of the entire planet.
What proof do you have that animals act with intent to preserve the environment? You haven't mentioned your proof, just your assertions that nature is perfect. Yet 99% of the species that have ever existed are now extinct. A vast majority before us evil humans came into the picture. Humans, the only species ever with the ability to save the planet from some of the cataclysmic events that have decimated "perfect" nature in the past.
Co2 is not bad. Plant's require it, and the Ocean absorbs all of the excess...that is, before industrialization.