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The liberal spirit of collectivism is the same thing Hitler used to gain consensus against the Jewish people. The Ends then justified the means, any means to rid itself of these people they deemed unfit or a problem in their grand scheme of global control. And just like many collectivists before him they came to violent ends. Stalin, Marx, Mao, all of these individuals murdered millions of people before the people took them out at great cost.
Marx never had political power, and Stalin and Mao died peacefully in their beds.
As for Hitler, Hitler was just the end result of a major religion who said, "The Jews Killed our God-Man".
Yes, Stalin died peacefully, but 60 to 80 million of his subjects died horribly in the gulags. Mao likewise died peacefully, however 100 to 150 million of his subjects were murdered to appease his blood lust. Hitler was, like the previous two, an atheist. You atheists try and disown him, but the evidence is very clear as to what he was. He used religion as a tool, nothing more.
Why do you have to derail threads?
Why do you blame everything on atheists?
Its not that simple.
I never said it was. However the post I made is relevant to the OP. The collectivist governments that have killed the most people (which is part of the OP) were run by atheists. Further the OFFICIAL position of the socialist regime of the Soviet Union was there is no religion allowed. Stat and the rest of the progs don't like the nexus, but the nexus exists. As of now DT is trying the hardest to derail the thread, aided and abetted by the rest of you clown faces.
No.
In your usual stupidity, you tried your hardest to prove that Adolph Hitler was an atheist, in a lame attempt to attach him, Mao and Stalin to "progs" as you, douchebag, call them. That was a massive fail.
Hitler was in no way an atheist. He was born a Catholic. His mother was a staunch Catholic. His father was more of a skeptic. Throughout his short and unimpressive military career and then his career as a dictator, he referred quite often to "god". He never left the Catholic Church, he was not excommunicated before his suicide, and he is the one who signed the Konkordiat with the Vatican in the 1930s. I bet that you have absolutely no idea in the world what the Konkordiat was.
It is of course possible that deep within his soul, he hated Christianity and all religions, but neither you nor I can prove it. Neither can passing commentary from a couple of those in his inner circle. Unless you possess a magical ability to travel back in time and get inside his head, then you lost this argument a long, long, long time ago. You are just plain old too stupid to realize when your car has already hit the wall, going at 60 mph.
Personally, I would hope that he was an atheist, because of the horrible genocides committed at his hand, especially of my fellow Jews. And I am pretty sure that the Roman Catholic Church would like to say that he was not a Catholic. But he was. And no amount of bleating like a goat on your part is going to change this.
Claims have been made that the RCC flat out excommunicated all Nazis at once, in the early thirties:
Archives Show Church Excommunicated Nazis ZENIT - The World Seen From Rome
But the documents themselves have never been made public. You will find them nowhere. Fascinating...
On the contrary, in 2011, the Standard.at (an Austrian newspaper) asked why to this day Hitler was never excommunicated, because it can also be done post-mortum:
Adof Hitler - Ehrenb rger und Katholik - Debatten - derStandard.at Meinung
"Aus dem Taufbuch der Stadtpfarre Braunau entnehmen wir, dass Adolf Hitler kurz nach seiner Geburt am 20. April 1889 in der Stadtpfarrkirche von Braunau getauft wurde. Er wurde dadurch ein Vollmitglied der römisch-katholischen Kirche. Sicher kann nach römisch-katholischer Lehre die Taufe nicht rückgängig gemacht werden, es ist so ähnlich wie im Islam. Die Zugehörigkeit durch eine muslimische Mutter bleibt auch in alle Ewigkeiten bestehen und kann niemals gelöscht werden.
Aber trotz des unauslöschlichen Charakters der Taufe besteht die Möglichkeit, aus der Kirche auszutreten oder vom Vatikan ausgeschlossen, exkommuniziert zu werden. Die Liste der Exkommunizierten durch den Vatikan ist lang, ich nenne ein paar Beispiele: Fidel Castro, alle katholischen Anhänger des Kommunismus, alle Freimaurer, die Gründer der Altkatholischen Kirche, u.a. der Theologieprofessor Ignaz Döllinger, Kaiser Napoleon I, bis hin zum englischen König Heinrich VIII.
Adolf Hitler ist selbst nie aus der Kirche ausgetreten, und er wurde auch nicht exkommuniziert. Der Vatikan war in der Nazi-Zeit unter Papst Pius XII sehr Deutschland-freundlich, und Adolf Hitler war Konkordatspartner des Vatikan, einer der ersten Verträge, die Adolf Hitler eingegangen ist."
The three bolded texts:
"From the Baptismal records of the church in Branau, we can (take out) see that AH was baptized shortly after his birth on 20 April 1889, in the church of Braunau.
The list of those excommunicated is long, I will name some examples: Fidel Castro, all Catholics who follow communism, all Free-Masons, the founders of the Alt-Catholic Church, theology professor Ignaz Dölling, Napoleon, all the way back to King Henry VIII.
AH never left the Church and he was not excommunicated."
He died a Catholic. End of story.
But in typical fascist westwallian fashion, instead of recognizing the horrors he committed, you disgusting fascist-loving fuckface, you use YOUR theory over his confession or lack thereof to bash people of a political persuasion whom you don't like. This makes you every bit as disgusting as AH himself was. Color me totally surprised.