Those who want to ban all guns do not live in the real world

[Jarlaxle]

For any sort of dent in firearm crime or firearm homicide rates the number of firearms in circulation/private hands- specifically handguns and military style semi automatics- will have to be reduced. A buyback scheme seems to be the best road to achieve that.

WITHOUT LOOKING IT UP, what do you believe is the rate of gun violence now, compared to 25 years ago? Be honest.

 

[M14 Shooter]

WITHOUT LOOKING IT UP, what do you believe is the rate of gun violence now, compared to 25 years ago? Be honest.

I know I know I know I know

 

[Jarlaxle]

The cartels have set up machine shops on the border to make guns....

Or that...though I thought they just bought guns from crooked Mexican officials, because it was easier than making them?

 

[ElmerMudd]

The other developed nations allowed 12 million innocent mwn, women and children to be myrdered by the German socialists in just 6 years...

Our gun murder rate hasnt reached that number in 87 years ..... you like the efficiency of state conducted murder....

Do you think owning a gun, in today's world, will prevent a rogue government from coming to get you? What a dumbass.
While you are hunkered down with all your guns the government will use a plane or a drone and blow you to smithereens. They may come with a tank or other armored vehicle. They may blow you to hell with long range artillery from many miles away.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Describe, in detail, the training that makes you able to make such a sweeping diagnosis of millions of people you have not met. This should include but not be limited to the medical school you attended, the year you got your PhD in psychiatry, and the states where you are licensed to practice. Be specific.

The same simple criteria used today. Based on mental health or convicted of a felony. It works fine today. Do you know of anyone who wants to get a gun and should have a gun that is forbidden by a background check.
You are afraid of everything, you are a coward. That is why you own a gun. You are afraid the background check may not be fair. You are scared of other people so you have a gun. You are afraid of the government so you want a gun.
SPINELESS COWARD.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Why does insulting other people make you feel better about yourself?

They are not insults. I am telling them who they are without any fluff.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They are not insults. I

Why do you think lying makes you look better than the people you insult?

 

[ElmerMudd]

All you can do is attack me with personal insults. You can not challenge me on the Constitution or the law, you have no competency in that, you can only emote and cry . . .
All you have is your sad, leftist hate and perverse need to subjugate and control other people. Funniest thing is, you are not against guns or killing people at all; your happiness depends on making sure it is the "right" people kneeling at the trench

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You are not following the Constitution by crying for, just guns, small arms. The The intent of the 2nd amendment was lost long ago. As arms advanced and became more deadly, people and state militias were not allowed the same arms as the Federal Government.
If you are advocating for the true intent of the 2nd amendment, you should be asking for every arm the US military has.
Know the Constitution before you say you are protecting the Constitution.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Why do you think lying makes you look better than the people you insult?

No lies, the truth. It is not my fault the truth hurts. Some people cannot handle the truth.

 

[M14 Shooter]

You are not following the Constitution by crying for, just guns, small arms. The The intent of the 2nd amendment was lost long ago. As arms advanced and became more deadly, people and state militias were not allowed the same arms as the Federal Government.
If you are advocating for the true intent of the 2nd amendment, you should be asking for every arm the US military has.
Know the Constitution before you say you are protecting the Constitution.

Just so we're clear:
You believe I should be able to legally buy an M60 through the Sears catalog and have the mailman deliver it to my house.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No lies, the truth.

I don't care if you lie to me like this, but you should really avoid lying to yourself.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Democrats routinely run on the promise of more and more and more gun control.
Should we not take them seriously?

 

[ElmerMudd]

I don't care if you lie to me like this, but you should really avoid lying to yourself.

I know you are, what am I. The old grade school come back for a claim you cannot refute. Nice try.

 

[M14 Shooter]

This has absolutely nothing to do with my statement that Democrats routinely run on the promise of more and more and more gun control.
It also does nothing to answer the question if we should not take those promises seriously

You, of course, knew this when you posted it.
Given that - why should we take YOU seriously?

 

[M14 Shooter]

I know you are, what am I. The old grade school come back for a claim you cannot refute. Nice try.

You mean a claim you know you cannot support.
The fact you refuse to admit, or refuse to understand, you are insulting people in no way means you are not.

And so, I ask again:
Why does insulting other people make you feel better?

 

[ElmerMudd]

Just so we're clear:
You believe I should be able to legally buy an M60 through the Sears catalog and have the mailman deliver it to my house.

No I do not. But the Constitution intended for all individuals and state militias could obtain the same arms as the federal government and military. There was no M60, or machine gun or sears catalog at that time.
The main arms were musket loaders and cannons.
The true meaning of the 2nd amendment has been altered as arms became more deadly.
I am glad I am able to teach about the history of our country.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You mean a claim you know you cannot support.
The fact you refuse to admit, or refuse to understand, you are insulting people in no way means you are not.

And so, I ask again:
Why does insulting other people make you feel better?

I apologize. I get very impatient and frustrated with stupid, misguided people who are hurting the country I love.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No I do not. But the Constitution intended for all individuals and state militias could obtain the same arms as the federal government and military.

And thus, my question about the M60 machine gun.

There was no M60, or machine gun or sears catalog at that time.

Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment . We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997) , and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001) , the Second Amendment extends, prima facie,to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER (No. 07-290)
478 F. 3d 370, affirmed.

The true meaning of the 2nd amendment has been altered as arms became more deadly.

The "true meaning"... according to you.
With said "true meaning" meaning that my right to own and use an M60 machine gun shall not be infringed .
Thus
You DO believe I should be able to legally buy an M60 through the Sears catalog and have the mailman deliver it to my house.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I apologize. I get very impatient and frustrated with stupid, misguided people who are hurting the country I love.

Fact remains:
You know your response was meaningless, and you know you cannot provide one that is meaningful.

And you haven't yet asnwered:
Why does insulting people make you feel better?

 

[ElmerMudd]

Fact remains:
You know your response was meaningless, and you know you cannot provide one that is meaningful.

And you haven't yet asnwered:
Why does insulting people make you feel better?

I need to follow the advise of Mark Twain