Those MLB Talks...???

[PoliticalChic]

I am really, really skeeeeeerrrrred that the two sides will not be able to solve this Gordian Knot on time to have a baseball season!!!

"What are the issues that are keeping the two sides apart? Ben Nicholson-Smith of Canada’s The Sports Network noted these topics on which the two sides could make compromise (and his entire article is worth your time):

• Added playoffs. MLB owners want 14 teams in the postseason. Players appear willing to go to 12.
• Advertising on uniforms
• Having a draft lottery under certain conditions
• A pool of money for pre-arb players. The parties seem to agree on this, but are far apart on the size of the pool.
• Service time manipulation. This one seems to be among the biggest concerns for players, but owners and players are far from an agreement on what sort of system would best combat this.
• Minimum salaries. Both sides seem to agree they should go up, but so far, owners have only offered a modest increase.
• Revenue sharing. The players’ biggest beef — and I find it legitimate — is that some small-market teams have received revenue-sharing funds from wealthier clubs and not spent it on payroll.
• The competitive balance tax (or “luxury tax” as it’s more commonly known). Owners have proposed a tiny increase in this level (from $210 million to $214 million), while players are looking for this to increase to $245 million. This is one of the single biggest things that keeps the sport’s revenue increases away from players. "
• A few thoughts on where MLB owners and the MLBPA stand going into weekend talks

 

[rightwinger]

Right now, players get tied up with low salaries during the most productive period of their career

By the time they get through their rookie contract and Arbitration years they are in their 30s and teams are calling them too old to invest serious free agent money

 

[PoliticalChic]

"MLB postpones spring training games until March 5 with more lockout talks scheduled for Monday"​

MLB postpones spring training games until March 5 with more lockout talks scheduled for Monday

Spring training games were supposed to begin Feb. 26

www.cbssports.com

 

[PoliticalChic]

No deal today......looks like games will be cancelled.

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MLB official tells MLBPA that league is willing to lose regular ...​

https://www.cbssports.com › mlb › news › mlb-official-...
— The league is reportedly ready to give up regular season games over key outstanding issues.

MLB Tells Union Games Will Be Lost Without a Deal Soon​

https://www.nytimes.com › Sports › Baseball
The league said it would begin canceling games if a collective bargaining agreement was not reached by Monday. The sides are negotiating ...



According to ESPN radio, the owners get paid by TV deals as long as they put on 142 games during the year.
Not a regular 162 games......


So the owners don't care about April games, which are the lowest attended.....and can give up 20 regular games and still get TV revenue.....

....so they don't have to deal with the players until it looks like more than 20 games will be lose.



Guess I'll be doing lost more reading......

 

[rightwinger]

Once they start writing off games you might as well write off the first 40 games.

Then you may get some serious negotiating

 

[Who_Me?]

Once they start writing off games you might as well write off the first 40 games.

Then you may get some serious negotiating

Baseball owners and players are on a pathway to irrelevance.

 

[toobfreak]

I am really, really skeeeeeerrrrred that the two sides will not be able to solve this Gordian Knot on time to have a baseball season!!!

I hope the entire baseball league collapses to duct and somehow, new openers are found who actually care about the fans, the players and the integrity of the game.

Maybe then I'll actually go see a game again.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Baseball owners and players are on a pathway to irrelevance.

I am really sick of their nonsense and just can not mustard up a care in the world anymore!

I mean Billionaire’s vs Millionaire’s crying about who should get what is telling me the Sport has come and gone and I just rather watch independent league baseball instead…

 

[PoliticalChic]

I hope the entire baseball league collapses to duct and somehow, new openers are found who actually care about the fans, the players and the integrity of the game.

Maybe then I'll actually go see a game again.

Can I have your seat?

 

[lg325]

Maybe something good will happen soon. College baseball is real competitive but Big Money is in that as well.

 

[PoliticalChic]

View attachment 609761Maybe something good will happen soon. College baseball is real competitive but Big Money is in that as well.

I don't care which side is richer.

I miss baseball.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It appears that the biggest sticking point is the CBT....the Luxury Tax, for those big market teams that can pay big bucks, to the detriment of the small market teams.

It is now at $210 million....teams that pay more are taxed and the money supposedly goes to allow small market teams to pay more for players.

How many are above the threshhold???


MLB Team Payroll Tracker

Rank	Team	2022 Total Payroll
1	New York Mets NYM	$235,599,999
2	Los Angeles Dodgers LAD	$214,458,333
3	New York Yankees NYY	$211,240,714
4	San Diego Padres SD	$184,497,618

Three teams are holding up the season.



Players want big increase in the threshhold......owners want tiny increases.

 

[PoliticalChic]

13 teams have less than $100 million payroll.

17	Milwaukee Brewers		26	$97,624,960	-	-	$3,041,668	-	$100,666,628
18	Chicago Cubs		28	$98,110,000	-	-	-	-	$98,110,000
19	Washington Nationals		27	$92,088,095	-	-	-	-	$92,088,095
20	Colorado Rockies		27	$85,258,333	-	$5,570,500	-	-	$90,828,833
21	Tampa Bay Rays		30	$70,421,213	-	$5,000,000	-	-	$75,421,213
22	Kansas City Royals		25	$72,925,000	-	-	-	-	$72,925,000
23	Oakland Athletics		27	$71,773,334	-	-	-	-	$71,773,334
24	Minnesota Twins		27	$71,742,857	-	-	-	-	$71,742,857
25	Seattle Mariners		27	$67,600,000	-	$3,750,000	-	-	$71,350,000
26	Arizona Diamondbacks		26	$66,610,000	-	-	-	-	$66,610,000
27	Miami Marlins		25	$55,700,000	-	-	-	-	$55,700,000
28	Pittsburgh Pirates		25	$21,450,000	-	$3,000,000	-	-	$34,450,000
29	Baltimore Orioles		26	$23,750,000	-	$17,000,000	-	-	$29,416,666
30	Cleveland Guardians		26	$29,050,000

 

[PoliticalChic]

 

[lg325]

 

[lg325]

 

[22lcidw]

Give people options for anything TV. Do not force TV stations on the consumer. Sports costs needs to be cut big time.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Give people options for anything TV. Do not force TV stations on the consumer. Sports costs needs to be cut big time.

I'll keep that in mind.......but I want my baseball!!!!!!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I am really, really skeeeeeerrrrred that the two sides will not be able to solve this Gordian Knot on time to have a baseball season!!!

"What are the issues that are keeping the two sides apart? Ben Nicholson-Smith of Canada’s The Sports Network noted these topics on which the two sides could make compromise (and his entire article is worth your time):

• Added playoffs. MLB owners want 14 teams in the postseason. Players appear willing to go to 12.
• Advertising on uniforms
• Having a draft lottery under certain conditions
• A pool of money for pre-arb players. The parties seem to agree on this, but are far apart on the size of the pool.
• Service time manipulation. This one seems to be among the biggest concerns for players, but owners and players are far from an agreement on what sort of system would best combat this.
• Minimum salaries. Both sides seem to agree they should go up, but so far, owners have only offered a modest increase.
• Revenue sharing. The players’ biggest beef — and I find it legitimate — is that some small-market teams have received revenue-sharing funds from wealthier clubs and not spent it on payroll.
• The competitive balance tax (or “luxury tax” as it’s more commonly known). Owners have proposed a tiny increase in this level (from $210 million to $214 million), while players are looking for this to increase to $245 million. This is one of the single biggest things that keeps the sport’s revenue increases away from players. "
• A few thoughts on where MLB owners and the MLBPA stand going into weekend talks

I much rather wish it was the NFL that was in danger of not having another season.

 

[lg325]

This old baseball stadium has to delay games because batters can’t see the ball Just an article about what happens in a good old fashioned baseball game. I would love to watch the game at this stadium. The game stopped due to the sunset