This is why Trump had every right to fire Atkinson.

[OKTexas]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

 

[AntonToo]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

so consumed is Trump by scandals, so intent on destroying his real and/or imagined enemies, that governing and solving the corona crisis has become an afterthought.

its an American tragedy, my friends!

Soros and the DNC will destroy America

 

[OKTexas]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

You stupid little commie, I just proved the ICIG didn't have the authority to accept or act on the complaint. How about you get off your lazy commie ass and address my post instead of deflecting.

.

 

[AntonToo]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

You stupid little commie, I just proved the ICIG didn't have the authority to accept or act on the complaint. How about you get off your lazy commie ass and address my post instead of deflecting.
.

You didn't prove shit. The whole premise of what you are arguing is straight up incoherent nonsense.

Wistleblower complaint was true (GAO ruled the millitary aid hold illegal!) and urgent. IG would be breaking the law and betraying his oath of office to block it from Congress.

 

[OKTexas]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

You stupid little commie, I just proved the ICIG didn't have the authority to accept or act on the complaint. How about you get off your lazy commie ass and address my post instead of deflecting.
.

You didn't prove shit. The whole premise of what you are arguing is straight up incoherent nonsense.

Wistleblower complaint was true (GAO ruled the millitary aid hold illegal!) and urgent. IG would be breaking the law and betraying his oath of office to block it from Congress.

Still being a stupid commie. There was no whistleblower complaint, the ICIG had no authority to accept it or act on it as the DOJ determined. The complaint was not concerning matters that fell within the authority or responsibility of the DNI and didn't concern an intelligence activity, AS THE FUCKING LAW REQUIRES. And to be totally on topic, that's why the ICIG deserved to be fired. He went fucking rogue, got it? You can rationalize it in any commie way you wish, but if the same had happened to your dear leader, you'd be making the same argument I am. Nah, you're not smart enough to research the laws and regs the way I did.

.

 

[Sunsettommy]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

The funds were released WITHIN the time frame of the budget year, Ukaine got all the money, even got additional military hardware for free, you are have been snookered badly by the media.

BOTH Ukrainian leaders past and present have stated publicly, that they were never pressured on anything, never told they had to do quid pro quo.

Give it up, you look

 

[OKTexas]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

The funds were released WITHIN the time frame of the budget year, Ukaine got all the money, even got additional military hardware for free, you are have been snookered badly by the media.

BOTH Ukrainian leaders past and present have stated publicly, that they were never pressured on anything, never told they had to do quid pro quo.

Give it up, you look

These commies think the ends justifies the means, they don't give a shit that everything was done illegally. They almost got their desired outcome, and they'll never admit they are wrong.

.

 

[Care4all]

The funds were released WITHIN the time frame of the budget year,

Nope! They did not receive all of the military aide, within the timeframe of the budget year.

 

[Care4all]

These commies think the ends justifies the means, they don't give a shit that everything was done illegally. They almost got their desired outcome, and they'll never admit they are wrong.

Tex, no legal team of the President made your argument.

The president and executive branch is not exempt from our oversight done by our, we the people's representative's.

The president is not King, we fought a Revolution, in order to make certain of that....

The president is NOT above the Law, and never has been.

He can't stop our oversight of him, legally.

The phone call was not the only piece to the WBlowers complaint, the congressionally passed military aid for the Ukraine was illegally being withheld, for a political purpose or any purpose, was against the law.... without notifying congress and getting their permission, as written, in the law, regarding military aid.

The WB complaint, all parts, once investigated, were proven true.

 

[Coyote]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

The funds were released WITHIN the time frame of the budget year, Ukaine got all the money, even got additional military hardware for free, you are have been snookered badly by the media.

BOTH Ukrainian leaders past and present have stated publicly, that they were never pressured on anything, never told they had to do quid pro quo.

Give it up, you look

Like ANY Ukraine leader, badly needing US military aid is going to say anything negative about tbe president. Get real.

 

[Coyote]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

The funds were released WITHIN the time frame of the budget year, Ukaine got all the money, even got additional military hardware for free, you are have been snookered badly by the media.

BOTH Ukrainian leaders past and present have stated publicly, that they were never pressured on anything, never told they had to do quid pro quo.

Give it up, you look

These commies think the ends justifies the means, they don't give a shit that everything was done illegally. They almost got their desired outcome, and they'll never admit they are wrong.

.

You mean your desired outcome of a lawless and unaccountable Chief Executive was almost thwarted?

 

[Coyote]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Two points:

Intelligence and National Security and Foreign Affairs are intertwined. There are no convenient hard borders of “responsibility”. Nothing you posted actually outlines the responsibilities or limits there of, of the DNI, a broad position.

Your point about ”not a difference in policy”...is irrelevant. The complaint was not about policy. There was no “policy” being played out. In fact, it was contravening our long standing policy of supporting Ukraine against Russia while also addressing corruption (remember, prior to the Congressional release of the aid, the military intelligence had cleared Ukraine for aid, finding Ukraine had made substantial steps in addressing corruption). Wha the whistle blower reported was not a policy difference but a call AND a series of actions to hide that call, which looked like extortion for personal gain. It was appropriate to report it.

 

[OKTexas]

These commies think the ends justifies the means, they don't give a shit that everything was done illegally. They almost got their desired outcome, and they'll never admit they are wrong.

Tex, no legal team of the President made your argument.

The president and executive branch is not exempt from our oversight done by our, we the people's representative's.

The president is not King, we fought a Revolution, in order to make certain of that....

The president is NOT above the Law, and never has been.

He can't stop our oversight of him, legally.

The phone call was not the only piece to the WBlowers complaint, the congressionally passed military aid for the Ukraine was illegally being withheld, for a political purpose or any purpose, was against the law.... without notifying congress and getting their permission, as written, in the law, regarding military aid.

The WB complaint, all parts, once investigated, were proven true.

Wow, more commie deflection, who would have thunk. LMAO This thread is about the ICIG and whether or not he should have been fired. I've proved he took a complaint that he shouldn't have taken or acted on and you commies just can't admit it. All you can do is say the ends justify the means.

None of the crap you spewed fall within the responsibility or authority of the DNI as required by law for actions of the ICIG. The fact is he deserved to be fired for violating the law that created his position because nothing in the so called whistle blower complaint had a damn thing to do with an intelligence activity. Even Vidman admitted it was nothing but a disagreement with policy. Now all you need to do is admit I've proved my point and STFU.

.

 

[OKTexas]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

The funds were released WITHIN the time frame of the budget year, Ukaine got all the money, even got additional military hardware for free, you are have been snookered badly by the media.

BOTH Ukrainian leaders past and present have stated publicly, that they were never pressured on anything, never told they had to do quid pro quo.

Give it up, you look

These commies think the ends justifies the means, they don't give a shit that everything was done illegally. They almost got their desired outcome, and they'll never admit they are wrong.

.

You mean your desired outcome of a lawless and unaccountable Chief Executive was almost thwarted?

The only lawless thing in this situation was the actions of the ICIG. Deal with it commie.

.

 

[OKTexas]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Two points:

Intelligence and National Security and Foreign Affairs are intertwined. There are no convenient hard borders of “responsibility”. Nothing you posted actually outlines the responsibilities or limits there of, of the DNI, a broad position.

Your point about ”not a difference in policy”...is irrelevant. The complaint was not about policy. There was no “policy” being played out. In fact, it was contravening our long standing policy of supporting Ukraine against Russia while also addressing corruption (remember, prior to the Congressional release of the aid, the military intelligence had cleared Ukraine for aid, finding Ukraine had made substantial steps in addressing corruption). Wha the whistle blower reported was not a policy difference but a call AND a series of actions to hide that call, which looked like extortion for personal gain. It was appropriate to report it.

Oh bullshit, no agency had certified the new Ukraine admin, the new parliament hadn't even been seated at the time of the call. And a presidential diplomatic phone call does not fall within the authority or responsibility of the DNI and it's damn sure not an intelligence activity. You can try to read into the responsibilities of the DNI all you want, that doesn't alter the fact that the ICIG got way outside his lane and deserved to be fired. I proved it and all you need to do is admit it and STFU.

.

 

[Coyote]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Two points:

Intelligence and National Security and Foreign Affairs are intertwined. There are no convenient hard borders of “responsibility”. Nothing you posted actually outlines the responsibilities or limits there of, of the DNI, a broad position.

Your point about ”not a difference in policy”...is irrelevant. The complaint was not about policy. There was no “policy” being played out. In fact, it was contravening our long standing policy of supporting Ukraine against Russia while also addressing corruption (remember, prior to the Congressional release of the aid, the military intelligence had cleared Ukraine for aid, finding Ukraine had made substantial steps in addressing corruption). Wha the whistle blower reported was not a policy difference but a call AND a series of actions to hide that call, which looked like extortion for personal gain. It was appropriate to report it.

Oh bullshit, no agency had certified the new Ukraine admin, the new parliament hadn't even been seated at the time of the call. And a presidential diplomatic phone call does not fall within the authority or responsibility of the DNI and it's damn sure not an intelligence activity. You can try to read into the responsibilities of the DNI all you want, that doesn't alter the fact that the ICIG got way outside his lane and deserved to be fired. I proved it and all you need to do is admit it and STFU.

.

The only thing you are showing us is you are a bit ignorant on how things really work.

For example...."a simple diplomatic phone call"

Who listens to the call?
Traditionally, officials from the US national security council (NSC) brief the president before a call with a foreign leader. Then the briefers sit in the Oval Office with the president while he speaks on the phone with the foreign leader. "At least two members of the NSC are usually present," according to USA Today.

There will also be officials sitting in a secure room in another part of the White House, listening to the president's call and taking notes. Their notes are known as a "memorandum of telephone conversation", and like many things in Washington it has an abbreviation: "memcon".

The president's calls with foreign leaders are also transcribed by computers. Afterwards, as former White House officials explain, the human note takers compare their impressions with an electronic version of the call. The notes from the officials and from the computerised transcriptions are combined into one document. This transcript may not be perfect, but it is done as carefully as time and resources allow.

 

[AntonToo]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

You stupid little commie, I just proved the ICIG didn't have the authority to accept or act on the complaint. How about you get off your lazy commie ass and address my post instead of deflecting.
.

You didn't prove shit. The whole premise of what you are arguing is straight up incoherent nonsense.

Wistleblower complaint was true (GAO ruled the millitary aid hold illegal!) and urgent. IG would be breaking the law and betraying his oath of office to block it from Congress.

Still being a stupid commie. There was no whistleblower complaint, the ICIG had no authority to accept it or act on it as the DOJ determined. .

Lets go over this again -

Was it true? yes it was. President had no legal authority to hold up the congressionaly aproved millitary aid without a proper reason (which to this day was never given). Wistleblower complaint credibly reported that the administration is trying to leverage the millitary aid to extort Ukrainian government for political favors for Trump.

Was it urgent? Yes it was, this aid had a time sensitive implications for our national security interests in Ukraine.

This was an important complaint for Congress to recivieve and just because you do not happen to like that it implicated Trump administration does not make it illegitimate.

 

[OKTexas]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

.

Two points:

Intelligence and National Security and Foreign Affairs are intertwined. There are no convenient hard borders of “responsibility”. Nothing you posted actually outlines the responsibilities or limits there of, of the DNI, a broad position.

Your point about ”not a difference in policy”...is irrelevant. The complaint was not about policy. There was no “policy” being played out. In fact, it was contravening our long standing policy of supporting Ukraine against Russia while also addressing corruption (remember, prior to the Congressional release of the aid, the military intelligence had cleared Ukraine for aid, finding Ukraine had made substantial steps in addressing corruption). Wha the whistle blower reported was not a policy difference but a call AND a series of actions to hide that call, which looked like extortion for personal gain. It was appropriate to report it.

Oh bullshit, no agency had certified the new Ukraine admin, the new parliament hadn't even been seated at the time of the call. And a presidential diplomatic phone call does not fall within the authority or responsibility of the DNI and it's damn sure not an intelligence activity. You can try to read into the responsibilities of the DNI all you want, that doesn't alter the fact that the ICIG got way outside his lane and deserved to be fired. I proved it and all you need to do is admit it and STFU.

.

The only thing you are showing us is you are a bit ignorant on how things really work.

For example...."a simple diplomatic phone call"

Who listens to the call?
Traditionally, officials from the US national security council (NSC) brief the president before a call with a foreign leader. Then the briefers sit in the Oval Office with the president while he speaks on the phone with the foreign leader. "At least two members of the NSC are usually present," according to USA Today.

There will also be officials sitting in a secure room in another part of the White House, listening to the president's call and taking notes. Their notes are known as a "memorandum of telephone conversation", and like many things in Washington it has an abbreviation: "memcon".

The president's calls with foreign leaders are also transcribed by computers. Afterwards, as former White House officials explain, the human note takers compare their impressions with an electronic version of the call. The notes from the officials and from the computerised transcriptions are combined into one document. This transcript may not be perfect, but it is done as carefully as time and resources allow.

More deflection. This thread isn't about the phone call, it's to determine if the ICIG did his job according to the law and rules, he didn't, and deserved to be fired. Why are you commies trying to complicate it?

.

 

[OKTexas]

The thing is, he did not mishandle the whistle blower case.

You sure about that?

Here is what he did that shows he tried hard to advance a bogus whistleblower claim, he changed the rules AFTER he got the report, to keep it viable since the rules makes clear the Whistleblower has to be an actual witness, but Atkinson waived that pesky rule to allow second/third hand claims be allowed for a contrived/useless whistleblower claim.

ICIG Michael Atkinson Attempts Four-Page Justification for Changing “Urgent Concern” Whistle-blower Guidelines…

Posted on September 30, 2019 by sundance

Excerpt:

Methinks Mr. Atkinson doth protest too much. Prior to the current “whistle-blower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept Urgent Concern whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge. However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 to accept a CIA complaint against President Donald Trump.

Today the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, Michael Atkinson, presented a four-page justification explaining why the IC changed the Urgent Concern rules to allow the CIA to target President Trump with anonymous complaints based on hearsay:

bolding mine

His 4 page bullshit in the LINK

=====

Read the rest of the link to see WHY they changed the rules, it involved Schiff, Burr and the turd Atkinson.

I remember this clearly from last year, he changed the rule to promote a hearsay whistleblower claim.

======

More about this turd Atkinson:

Dirty Business – ICIG Atkinson Receives Ethics Complaint Against CIA ‘Whistleblower’, Goes to Schiff Basement for Talks…

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort

Chad Pergram noted that Intelligence Community Inspector General (IGIC) Michael Atkinson was spotted today going into HPSCI Chairman Schiffs’ basement bunker for discussions with the impeachment inquisitors.

WHAT EXACTLY is BULL SHIT ABOUT IT? I read the 4 page report, there was no bullshit in it??

Can you point out what was bullshit to you? Or are you just parroting fake news from right wing bloggers that you call news?

Atkinson, simply followed THE LAW that stated he SHALL turn over all designated urgent whistle blower complaints to congress within 10 days, and that pissed trump off.... and that is why he fired the man he hired..... and trump does not hire Democrats, so you KNOW Atkinson is a Republican.

Perhaps you can quote the law that gave Atkinson the authority to accept a complaint concerning a presidential diplomatic phone call. But I doubt it, since it doesn't exist. Read the limitations in the ICIG law. He's restricted to matters falling with the authority and responsibility of the DNI.

.

And the DNI director testified the whistleblower complaint fell within those guidelines.

The end.

So quote the guidelines. COWARD!

.

You made the claim. Quote it.

The statute authorizes the ICIG to “receive and investigate ... complaints or information from any person concerning the existence of an activity within the authorities and responsibilities of the Director of National Intelligence constituting a violation of laws, rules or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority, or a substantial and specific danger to the public health and safety.”

Unpacking the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Complaint

Last week saw an important development in the continuing erosion of governmental checks and balances. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff subpoenaed Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Joseph Maguire and wrote a blistering letter accusing Maguire of violating the law by...

www.lawfareblog.com

Defines a matter of "urgent concern" for purposes of this Act as: (1) a serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information; (2) a false statement to the Congress, or willful withholding from the Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the administration or operation of an intelligence activity; or (3) an action constituting reprisal in response to an employee's reporting of an urgent concern.

H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

Summary of H.R.3829 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998

www.congress.gov

Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA) of 1998 provides a secure means for employees to report to Congress allegations regarding classified information. The ICWPA is a statute that provides a process by which employees, or contractor employees, of IC elements can report matters of "urgent concern" to the intelligence committees of Congress.

An "urgent concern" is defined as:

• A serious or flagrant problem, abuse, violation of law or executive order, or deficiency relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity involving classified information, but does not include differences of opinion concerning public policy matters.
• A false statement to Congress, or a willful withholding from Congress, on an issue of material fact relating to the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity.

WHISTLEBLOWING OUTREACH PROCESS TO SUBMIT

Now show how a presidential diplomatic phone call falls within the authority or responsibility of the DNI, or involves the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity. Here's a clue commie, you must first prove the DNI has responsibility or authority over anything his boss does.

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Government Accountability Office straight up deemed administration's hold on FUNDS for Ukraine millitary aid to be illegal.

How the hell could you now argue that it wasn't apropriate for Congress to recieve a credible complaint about it?

Of course it was appropriate and of course IG did the right thing. DUH.

You stupid little commie, I just proved the ICIG didn't have the authority to accept or act on the complaint. How about you get off your lazy commie ass and address my post instead of deflecting.
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You didn't prove shit. The whole premise of what you are arguing is straight up incoherent nonsense.

Wistleblower complaint was true (GAO ruled the millitary aid hold illegal!) and urgent. IG would be breaking the law and betraying his oath of office to block it from Congress.

Still being a stupid commie. There was no whistleblower complaint, the ICIG had no authority to accept it or act on it as the DOJ determined. .

Lets go over this again -

Was it true? yes it was. President had no legal authority to hold up the congressionaly aproved millitary aid without a proper reason (which to this day was never given). Wistleblower complaint credibly reported that the administration is trying to leverage the millitary aid to extort Ukrainian government for political favors for Trump.

Was it urgent? Yes it was, this aid had a time sensitive implications for our national security interests in Ukraine.

This was an important complaint for Congress to recivieve and just because you do not happen to like that it implicated Trump administration does not make it illegitimate.

See post 79.

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