oh...thanks for refreshing my memory. IIRC, the premise that Frank was making was that liberals were like zombies, never veering from left wing rhetoric....I challenged Frank to tell us all where he disagreed with the right wing rhetoric...YOU came to Frank's defends.... Never asking HIM to itemize...issue by issue, to prove his ridiculous assertion....but you DEMANDED that of me.....
My wife and I are in the midst of a major landscaping project at our home, so I really didn't have an opportunity to respond...so allow me to do so now..**** off. I've REPEATEDLY expressed my differences with the hard left...in fact, I just did so in THIS thread.
You've been around this board, so has Frank....we all know the issues, we all know the stances....to sit here and plead ignorance is just more of the deflection and dishonesty that I've come to expect from the hard core idealogues.
Your Signature says a lot about the cracks in your foundation. Before Labor, and Capital, there is the concept of Private Property, and the Value you give both, the Person who owns it, and the property itself. That is more the True foundation, for Rich and Poor. One cannot know right and wrong, and not value that. Just a thought.
oh...so what you are saying is that people with property own those without? Sounds VERY. much like an aristocracy.....something that we, as a fledgling country fought against some 230 years ago.
Look... let's look at this in a LOGICAL, instead of ideological, manner.
The wealthy are cleaning up....right? Personal taxation is at an alltime low in recent memory....Right? So, we've established that the wealthy are doing better than perhaps they ever have in our history.... we have, underneath that, the professional level....let's for the sake of argument use small business owners, doctors, lawyers....even down to Physician's Assistants, Nurse Practitioners, Physical Therapists, etc...I am sure that there are more, but the medical field is what I'm most familiar with.
Then underneath that, we have another level...the semi-professional...let's throw most government employees in that level....sure.... there are some that go up to the previous level, or down to the next....but general government employees, Teachers, tradesmen.
the last of the working levels is the non-professional level this is where a HUGE part of our country resides. This is the level that has been decimated by the actions at the very top. Forcing many of them to drop down to the lowest level...or NEXT to the lowest level in our society....the dependent level.
The dependent level is where, whether from no fault of their own...or because they choose to be....are reliant upon government assistance for their survival. It's a tight rope that these people are living on. Get a shitty job and pay for everything...including child care out of pocket, or live off of welfare and be able to stay at home with the kids and look/work towards a family sustaining job? Yes, I know... there is a sublevel here...one that is chronic in nature and will never get off of the teat unless forced to.
The lowest level is the Criminal level...those who rely on government AND make a pretty good living committing illegal activities....THOSE are the guys that Conservatives equate with everyone who takes assistance.
Now.... the reason I went through all of that, is because in order to make the economy strong again is that we need to put money in the hands of the non-professionals. That is where most of the country resides, and they can't do it anymore. They are living from paycheck to paycheck, robbing Peter to pay Paul, their credit is at the straining point and they can't carry the economy on their shoulders anymore. The professionals and Semi-professionals are too few in number and lack the money/power to make a dent.
So, it's kind of up to the people who have really kicked ass since "trickle down" became mainstream to bolster our domestic economy. The more money people have in their pockets...the more they will spend. The more they spend, the greater the demand, the greater the demand, the more produced, the more produced, the more sold, the more sold, the more profit.....
But do they invest in this country and it's people? No...they invest outside this country....for slave labor rates and the promise of a tax haven account.
Look, I don't care what happens in November, as long as Wal-Mart type jobs become more and more commonplace as the norm, the worse our country....and by default, the global economy, is going to do.