This is Hamas

[theHawk]

Did it ever occur to you, you might be radicalized if you’ve been bombed for years, starved, and your entire family including your babies have been ruthlessly murdered.

Same thing applies to Israelis constantly attacked by terrorism from Palestinians.

 

[Roudy]

Yeah in the Land of the Free and home of the First Amendment.

First amendment doesn’t give you a right to support organizations classified as terrorist by the U.S. State Department, such as Hamas. It los doesn’t give you the right to threaten and attack Jews, dipshit. You must think you’re living in some Muslim controlled oppressive shithole like Gaza.

 

[gipper]

Same thing applies to Israelis constantly attacked by terrorism from Palestinians.

Lol. You don’t even know who the oppressors and the oppressed are in this conflict. Your knowledge of the history is cloudy by Zionist propaganda you’ve accepted your entire life. You somehow think it’s evenly divided.

Who had their land stolen?
Who was killed in large numbers?
Who was forced to live in squalid conditions?
Who has no rights in Israel?

 

[gipper]

Wow. You are really struggling with comprehension today, aren’t you?

Of course, I don’t deny the Holocaust. Neither do I deny the violence perpetrated on Jews by Arabs and Muslims long before Israel’s self-determination and independence.

You can’t claim that the cause of Arab and Muslim violence against the Jews was Jewish national sovereignty and independence when violence was being committed before those things existed.

But you do deny the violence Israelis have perpetrated on the Arabs.

Was that you screaming, DEATH TO THE ARABS!!!!

 

[Roudy]

Lol. You don’t even know who the oppressors and the oppressed are in this conflict. Your knowledge of the history is cloudy by Zionist propaganda you’ve accepted your entire life. You somehow think it’s evenly divided.

Who had their land stolen?
Who was killed in large numbers?
Who was forced to live in squalid conditions?
Who has no rights in Israel?

Wow, it’s funny how you pretend to know what you’re talking about, yet know jack shit about the history of the region and the people.

1- Who had their land stolen? There was never a Palestine or Palestinian people. The land was controlled by the Ottomans for 600 years. There was never a Palestine or Palestinian people during this time, in fact the Ottomans, who were Muslims themselves, invited the Jews to come resettle back to what they considered Jewish ancestral. lands

2- Who was killed in large numbers? Since the state of Israel has reestablished, the surrounding Arab Muslims have been trying to destroy it.

3- Who was forced to live in squalid conditions? The Palestinians are basically refugees from the wars upon Israel that Arabs themselves started, which they refused to take back. In fact when Jordan and Egypt controlled the West Bank and Gaza from 1948 to 1967, there was never a mention of a Palestinian people. In fact they themselves laughed at such a concept.
2- Who has no rights in Israel? There are about two million Arab Muslims living in Israel with the same exact rights as other Israelis. They serve as judges, politicians and mayors. Minorities have zero rights and have been ethnically cleansed from all lands controlled by Muslims.

You are a blind, illiterate fool on the Hamas payroll.

 

[Roudy]

There is no such a thing as a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist.

 

[Shusha]

But you do deny the violence Israelis have perpetrated on the Arabs.

I certainly do not deny Israel's defensive wars, all started by Arabs and therefore Arab responsibility.

Was that you screaming, DEATH TO THE ARABS!!!!

Clearly not.

 

[Shusha]

Who had their land stolen?

No one had their land stolen. The two claims to the land are both claims of self-determination, a concept which became popular post WWI.

Who was killed in large numbers?

The numbers, while tragic, are small in comparison to other conflicts, especially prior to the October 7 atrocity. But you are asking the wrong question. The right question is: What causes the war and the deaths and what will end it permanently? Stop. Trying. To. Kill. Jews. Its that simple. The Jewish people have a sovereign state in their homeland. The Jewish people aren't going to leave. Stop trying to kill them. Just live with them.

Who was forced to live in squalid conditions?

The responsibility for the people is with their government. Palestine has a government. Gaza has a government. (Well, had). Those governments need to make better choices for their people. Hold elections. End corruption. Stop wasting money on terror.

Who has no rights in Israel?

Everyone has the same rights in Israel. Tell me about the rights of Jews in Gaza or in Area A/B.

 

[gipper]

No one had their land stolen. The two claims to the land are both claims of self-determination, a concept which became popular post WWI.

The numbers, while tragic, are small in comparison to other conflicts, especially prior to the October 7 atrocity. But you are asking the wrong question. The right question is: What causes the war and the deaths and what will end it permanently? Stop. Trying. To. Kill. Jews. Its that simple. The Jewish people have a sovereign state in their homeland. The Jewish people aren't going to leave. Stop trying to kill them. Just live with them.

The responsibility for the people is with their government. Palestine has a government. Gaza has a government. (Well, had). Those governments need to make better choices for their people. Hold elections. End corruption. Stop wasting money on terror.

Everyone has the same rights in Israel. Tell me about the rights of Jews in Gaza or in Area A/B.

You have everything upside down.

The conflict is simple to understand. It’s a type of conflict that has been repeated throughout world history. When an invading force tries to impose its will on indigenous peoples, war and atrocities result.

The Jewish people have suffered greatly for two thousand years, so I see their desire for a homeland of their own. Thinking they can merely steal Palestine because Jews had a homeland there once upon a time, is absurd.

 

[Flopper]

Yeah in the Land of the Free and home of the First Amendment.

When those controlling the government get away with hushing those that speak against their policy, that is the beginning of the end of freedom of speech. Whether you are here legally, illegally, or a citizen, you are not safe.

 

[toomuchtime_]

When those controlling the government get away with hushing those that speak against their policy, that is the beginning of the end of freedom of speech. Whether you are here legally, illegally, or a citizen, you are not safe.

Of course none of that is true. No citizens have been charged and there is no challenge to free speech. Some people are losing their visas or green cards because they either lied or withheld information about themselves that would have prevented them from obtaining visas or green cards in the first place.

 

[gipper]

When those controlling the government get away with hushing those that speak against their policy, that is the beginning of the end of freedom of speech. Whether you are here legally, illegally, or a citizen, you are not safe.

We’re there now.

There have been periods throughout the nation’s history when speech has been silenced. Almost always during wartime.

Americans supporting this obvious violation of the 1A, don’t realize the damage their causing for all of us.

 

[Flopper]

Of course none of that is true. No citizens have been charged and there is no challenge to free speech. Some people are losing their visas or green cards because they either lied or withheld information about themselves that would have prevented them from obtaining visas or green cards in the first place.

Step 1 is to silence the foreigners in the US that disagree with Trump policy.

Step 2. Then you go after Americans that never should have been Americans that disagree with Trump policy. You grab them off the streets throw them in a Truck with deportees and dump them in a foreign prison, never to be seen again. The Trump administration has made it quite easy.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Step 1 is to silence the foreigners in the US that disagree with Trump policy.

Step 2. Then you go after Americans that never should have been Americans that disagree with Trump policy. You grab them off the streets throw them in a Truck with deportees and dump them in a foreign prison, never to be seen again. The Trump administration has made it quite easy.

Just we are clear that this is all fantasy.

 

[gipper]

Just we are clear that this is all fantasy.

You are living in fantasyland.

Are you unaware of politicians including the president who have expressed their desire to violate the 1A for protestors of your genocide?

"All federal funding will STOP for any College, School or University that allows illegal protests," Trump wrote on social media. "Agitators will be imprisoned/or permanently sent back to the country from which they came. American students will be permanently expelled or, depending on the crime, arrested. NO MASKS!"
A spokesperson for Trump did not respond to questions about how the White House would define an illegal protest or how the government would imprison protesters. The U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protects the freedom of speech and assembly.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...schools-allowing-illegal-protests-2025-03-04/
Surely you know of the three Ivy League presidents ousted by Zionist billionaires are NOT violating their students first amendment rights.

Inside of a few weeks at Havard, Penn, Columbia three Ivy League presidents were ousted. Nothing in our history compares to this. The Zionist billionaires imposed this illegal injustice, with full support of government and many dumb Americans. To say nothing of students who were oppressed and silenced.

Norman Finkelstein outlined this terrible injustice around the 19 minute mark. Norman says nothing in our history compares to the removal of three university presidents. Not even the Red Scare.


Arrested and deported in the Land of the Free!
Arrested And Deported For Exercising First Amendment Rights? - LRC Blog
VIDEO: John Kerry Goes to War With First Amendment, Calls it ‘Major Block’ to Censorship Regime

The New York Times published an op-ed on Tuesday that claims the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution “is out of control.” The article was authored by legal scholar Tim Wu, a Columbia law professor who served on the National Economic Council under both the Obama and Biden administrations.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You are living in fantasyland.

Are you unaware of politicians including the president who have expressed their desire to violate the 1A for protestors of your genocide?

"All federal funding will STOP for any College, School or University that allows illegal protests," Trump wrote on social media. "Agitators will be imprisoned/or permanently sent back to the country from which they came. American students will be permanently expelled or, depending on the crime, arrested. NO MASKS!"
A spokesperson for Trump did not respond to questions about how the White House would define an illegal protest or how the government would imprison protesters. The U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protects the freedom of speech and assembly.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...schools-allowing-illegal-protests-2025-03-04/
Surely you know of the three Ivy League presidents ousted by Zionist billionaires are NOT violating their students first amendment rights.

Inside of a few weeks at Havard, Penn, Columbia three Ivy League presidents were ousted. Nothing in our history compares to this. The Zionist billionaires imposed this illegal injustice, with full support of government and many dumb Americans. To say nothing of students who were oppressed and silenced.

Norman Finkelstein outlined this terrible injustice around the 19 minute mark. Norman says nothing in our history compares to the removal of three university presidents. Not even the Red Scare.


Arrested and deported in the Land of the Free!
Arrested And Deported For Exercising First Amendment Rights? - LRC Blog
VIDEO: John Kerry Goes to War With First Amendment, Calls it ‘Major Block’ to Censorship Regime

The New York Times published an op-ed on Tuesday that claims the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution “is out of control.” The article was authored by legal scholar Tim Wu, a Columbia law professor who served on the National Economic Council under both the Obama and Biden administrations.

And yet there is no genocide, as you will know, and there is no attack on the first amendment as you well know. visas and green cards are being revoked for people who misrepresented or withheld information on their applications which would have prevented them from obtaining green cards/visas in the first place. Once their green cards/visas have been revoked they are in the country illegally, so they are deported. There simply are no grounds for claiming this is a free speech issue.

 

[gipper]

And yet there is no genocide, as you will know, and there is no attack on the first amendment as you well know. visas and green cards are being revoked for people who misrepresented or withheld information on their applications which would have prevented them from obtaining green cards/visas in the first place. Once their green cards/visas have been revoked they are in the country illegally, so they are deported. There simply are no grounds for claiming this is a free speech issue.

So dumb. Of course its genocide, thinking otherwise merely means you’re a Zionist dupe.

 

[toomuchtime_]

So dumb. Of course its genocide, thinking otherwise merely means you’re a Zionist dupe.

We both know there is no genocide and no challenge to free speech. Falsely claiming there is no genocide and a challenge to free speech is a demonstration of how intellectually impoverished anti Israelis are.

 

[gipper]

We both know there is no genocide and no challenge to free speech. Falsely claiming there is no genocide and a challenge to free speech is a demonstration of how intellectually impoverished anti Israelis are.

No. You want to believe it isn’t genocide to convince yourself you aren’t a heartless immoral dumb MFer.

To support the mass slaughter and starvation of a defenseless people, is a mental illness.

How are you any different from the mass murderers throughout history?

 

[toomuchtime_]

No. You want to believe it isn’t genocide to convince yourself you aren’t a heartless immoral dumb MFer.

To support the mass slaughter and starvation of a defenseless people, is a mental illness.

How are you any different from the mass murderers throughout history?

As we both know, there has been no mass slaughter in Gaza and no famine.

As we both know, nothing that is going on in Gaza meets the legal definition of genocide.

Again, falsely claiming these things demonstrates the intellectual impoverishment of anti Israelis.