This is Hamas

[Roudy]

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Looks like Palestinians have had enough of your beloved Hamas animals.

 

[gipper]

Looks like Palestinians have had enough of your beloved Hamas animals.

You’ll love this, you fucking Zionist psycho!

 

[gipper]

No, this is incorrect. (As in: it does not accurately reflect my beliefs).

I believe that indigenous peoples (that is - peoples with a distinct and recognizable culture attached to a homeland) have the inherent right of self-determination in their homeland, including in the form of State. I believe that these States have the right to determine immigration policies.

Every Jewish person is indigenous to Israel, Judea, and Samaria. Every Jew. It does not matter in which area of the world that Jew and their ancestors lived in Diaspora.

Your fascination with "European Jews" is telling. You are using "European" as a code word for "white" in an attempt to paint them as oppressors. Why do you ignore the Mizrahi Jews which make up half the population of Israel? Why are they not worthy of discussion?

No, I do not support theft. But then, you can't steal your own homeland. You can't steal land to which you have a legal sovereign claim.

It may be that you are conflating ownership of personal property with what we call in Canada "Crown Lands". Are there cases of theft of personal property? Shrug. Possibly. We would have to look case-by-case. Most of what is commonly referred to as "theft" of "Palestinian land" is the result of the complex interactions of Ottoman land use law, Jordanian law, and the legal application of Israeli law in Area C. Masafer Yatta is a fantastic example of these complex interactions.

And no, I do not support murder. I do support self-defense.

And yet I continuously use the language of the rights of BOTH peoples. So, nope.

I would not give up my personal property to anyone. However, I do believe in the right of self-determination of the indigenous peoples of Canada, up to and including a sovereign State. You wouldn't support that? You would, rather, deny self-determination to the indigenous peoples and insist that the colonizers are the only ones with rights to self-determination and statehood? Are you quite certain you want to go down that road?

What changed?

 

[Roudy]

You’ll love this, you fucking Zionist psycho!
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What changed?

Your repetitive lies and propaganda are getting quite old and moldy, and not even worth answering. Find something else to do with your life, ass kisser of IslamoNazi terrorists.

It’s understandable that our enemies would chose an ignorant moron like you to do their bidding, but it if you look around you the bullshit “Palestinian cause” has already been rejected by an overwhelming majority of Americans, and this cancer within is in the process of being completely eradicated from our universities and institutions.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

How are they still managing to get away with it?

Hamas: Hostages will return in coffins if Israel continues its onslaught.

 

[Shusha]

What changed?

Lots of things changed. WWI. The fall of the Ottoman Empire. The rise of ethnic nationalism. Migration into the area (both Jewish and Arab). A changing economy. WWII. The Mandate period of history. The decline of colonialism and Imperialism. The development of comprehensive international combat and humanitarian law. The rise of terrorism, specifically Islamic terrorism. Lots of things changed.

I know you're drooling to pin in on "those Jews", but there was a combination of factors which influenced events in the past 100 years or so.

Gaza never had a large population of Jews, only a few families, periodically forced out over the centuries for various reasons (plague, war, Arab violence). Of course, there were times when there was no animosity and families got along well with their neighbors. There were times when this was not so.

 

[gipper]

Lots of things changed. WWI. The fall of the Ottoman Empire. The rise of ethnic nationalism. Migration into the area (both Jewish and Arab). A changing economy. WWII. The Mandate period of history. The decline of colonialism and Imperialism. The development of comprehensive international combat and humanitarian law. The rise of terrorism, specifically Islamic terrorism. Lots of things changed.

I know you're drooling to pin in on "those Jews", but there was a combination of factors which influenced events in the past 100 years or so.

Gaza never had a large population of Jews, only a few families, periodically forced out over the centuries for various reasons (plague, war, Arab violence). Of course, there were times when there was no animosity and families got along well with their neighbors. There were times when this was not so.

For centuries, Jews lived peacefully with Arabs and Muslims in Palestine. Even though Jews were a tiny minority. Far better relations existed there than the awful treatment Jews suffered at the hands of Christian Europe.

Then the Zionists like you showed up and fucked everything up.

 

[Shusha]

For centuries, Jews lived peacefully with Arabs and Muslims in Palestine. Even though Jews were a tiny minority. Far better relations existed there than the awful treatment Jews suffered at the hands of Christian Europe.

Then the Zionists like you showed up and fucked everything up.

The argument that Arab and Muslim violence towards the Jews was less frequent or less horrifying than other violence towards the Jews is not a good one. It is a blatant falsehood to claim that Arabs and Muslims never committed violence against the Jews. They did. You know it. We all know it.

 

[gipper]

The argument that Arab and Muslim violence towards the Jews was less frequent or less horrifying than other violence towards the Jews is not a good one. It is a blatant falsehood to claim that Arabs and Muslims never committed violence against the Jews. They did. You know it. We all know it.

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BS. It’s a fact.

Thinking all those centuries of pogroms and Hitler’s Holocaust was less horrifying than the treatment Jews incurred in Palestine by Muslims is beyond ignorant. Your hatred has made you dumb.

Are you a Holocaust denier too?

 

[Shusha]

BS. It’s a fact.

Thinking all those centuries of pogroms and Hitler’s Holocaust was less horrifying than the treatment Jews incurred in Palestine by Muslims is beyond ignorant. Your hatred has made you dumb.

Are you a Holocaust denier too?

You are having difficulty reading. The claim I am making is that there was Arab and Muslim violence committed against the Jews. It may have been less frequent and less horrifying than violence committed by others against the Jews, but it existed. It wasn't all rainbows and unicorns. To pretend it was is a lie.

 

[gipper]

You are having difficulty reading. The claim I am making is that there was Arab and Muslim violence committed against the Jews. It may have been less frequent and less horrifying than violence committed by others against the Jews, but it existed. It wasn't all rainbows and unicorns. To pretend it was is a lie.

I never denied violence against Jews occurred before the murderous Zionists showed up in Palestine to steal the land.

Do you deny the Holocaust?

 

[Shusha]

I never denied violence against Jews occurred

Good, we agree.

before the murderous Zionists showed up in Palestine to steal the land.

Then can we not also agree that the arrival of "Zionists" is NOT the cause of violence against Jews? Or at least that there are other factors operating besides the mere presence of Jews?

 

[gipper]

Good, we agree.

Then can we not also agree that the arrival of "Zionists" is NOT the cause of violence against Jews? Or at least that there are other factors operating besides the mere presence of Jews?

No we can’t. Clearly.

Had the Zionists not invaded Palestine, there would never have been problems there.

 

[Shusha]

No we can’t. Clearly.

Had the Zionists not invaded Palestine, there would never have been problems there.

As long as you don’t consider pogroms, expulsions, massacres of the Jews “problems”.

 

[Roudy]

As long as you don’t consider pogroms, expulsions, massacres of the Jews “problems”.

It forgot that Arab Muslim savages committed the genocidal Hebron massacre of 1929 that was instigated by the Nazi Mufti Husseini. It was after the Hebron massacre that Jews decided to arm themselves in order to protect themselves from the animals on committing a second Holocaust on Jews in their ancestral and religious holy land.

 

[Roudy]

No we can’t. Clearly.

Had the Zionists not invaded Palestine, there would never have been problems there.

It was the Arab Muslims that invaded the ancient religious, ancestral and cultural homeland of the Jews, douchebag. In fact that is how Islam spread, invasions, raping, looting and barbarism. Not much has changed.

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“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.​

-Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against.​

 

[gipper]

As long as you don’t consider pogroms, expulsions, massacres of the Jews “problems”.

So you do deny the Holocaust. WTF!

 

[Flopper]

Did it ever occur to you, you might be radicalized if you’ve been bombed for years, starved, and your entire family including your babies have been ruthlessly murdered.

Better watchout, you'll be deported for subversive activity.

 

[gipper]

Better watchout, you'll be deported for subversive activity.

Yeah in the Land of the Free and home of the First Amendment.

 

[Shusha]

So you do deny the Holocaust. WTF!

Wow. You are really struggling with comprehension today, aren’t you?

Of course, I don’t deny the Holocaust. Neither do I deny the violence perpetrated on Jews by Arabs and Muslims long before Israel’s self-determination and independence.

You can’t claim that the cause of Arab and Muslim violence against the Jews was Jewish national sovereignty and independence when violence was being committed before those things existed.