This is For Anybody Claiming Iran to be The Victims

[gtopa1]

Btw, if you really want to see my point try Googling Trump. Nothing for America these days. It's just all about Israel. Again, nothing is wrong with Israel and I support Israel Trump's just gone overboard in my book.

I respectfully disagree; I think Israel's and The US's interests overlap wrt Iran and I am thankful to both for taking care of Iran. If you are just saying it's a matter of degree then I can handle that. At this point I think Trump does NOT want to kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians if he can neuter them some other way. But the axe is still ready.



Greg

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

This doesn't make sense.

Why not Protectionist?

 

[protectionist]

Why not Protectionist?

Without a regime change, leaving the IRGC in power, all that was fought for would be moot, including all the US military members killed.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

FISA was massively abused. It should end

This is all now rapidly coming in to the "Public Eye".

What Trump, & The Republicans, as well as the Democrats & their "Leaders", as well as the majority of "Leaders" that came before them, is an America, & World that will closely resemble George Orwell's "1984".

An Outstanding clue to all of this should've been readily apparent when George Bush Sr. invoked the "New World Order" before Congress.

Furthermore, every POTUS since that time, with the exception of Trump at this time,.... Every POTUS has also invoked the "New World Order".

Our Leaders have been telling "We the People" since the early 1990s, what they intended to do, & that went in obe ear, & out the other of the Majority of the American Sheeple.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Without a regime change, leaving the IRGC in power, all that was fought for would be moot, including all the US military members killed.

So,..... You accept the ever evolving reasons, & objectives for this "War"?

 

[leftwinger]

I only come to these threads to see how far the phony Trump supporting MiddleStain OP people will go.

 

[luiza]

Trump does NOT want to kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians if he can neuter them some other way. But the axe is still ready.

His problems are that he does not know how to solve them without thousands more Americans dying

Possibly partly why they had the staged and fake WH shooting to give him some time to change his underwear .

He must be scared rigid about existing losses becoming public--- some thousands across the US bases with every available bed in the ME being used anonymously by American victims .

All hell would break loose if that became known .
Let alone the six figure Israeli number .

Every Deflection from that news is doubtless Trumpfy's top priority by a long way .
Not good for mid- terms

But it's great spectator viewing particularly if you like the underdogs -- for you America
rofl .

P.S. let's have a grown up reaction from our aboriginal Gopher friend .

 

[westwall]

Greetings CiK,

How is the Undeclared War with Iran "Justified"?

And I have to state her, that I Absolutely do not believe in making Undeclared, & Unjustified War.

But when "Justified", & "Declared", I Believe that America should use Overwhelming Conventional Force against the "proven enemy", & Destroy it's capability to Harm America,....

And then Go Home, with No Regime Change.

Iran declared war on the USA decades ago when they took our embassy.

They then committed war crimes by holding our people hostage.

To be a truth seeker you must first be non ignorant.

May I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Iran declared war on the USA decades ago when they took our embassy.

They then committed war crimes by holding our people hostage.

To be a truth seeker you must first be non ignorant.

May I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.

I'm gonna say that You should refuse the "Orwellian Party Propaganda", from the Republicans & Democrats, & DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Hopefully a "Light will go on between Yer Ears".

Iran's Parliament has never Declared War upon America. Iran's Ayatollahs, have stated "Death to the Great Satan", but they have not "Declared War".

Now, regarding Terrorist Acts, carried out by Iranian "Proxies", & "Agents",.... Absolutely, Iran has backed them, BUT,..... How can You forget the Terrorist Acts carried out by "Sunni Muslims", that are absolutely backed by Saudi Arabia?

If You weren't a "Choir Boy", for the Uniiparty in Washington,... Then maybe, just maybe, You'd ask how can the Republicans "climb in bed with the Sunnis", and the Democrats "climb in bed with the Shia", when both Sects declared that they will create a World Wide Caliphate, where the Unbeliever/Infidel will be put to death.

Take Your head outa that Dark, Moist, Stinky Cavity, and get some Fresh Air,.... Maybe You will also Desire The Truth.

 

[westwall]

I'm gonna say that You should refuse the "Orwellian Party Propaganda", from the Republicans & Democrats, & DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Hopefully a "Light will go on between Yer Ears".

Iran's Parliament has never Declared War upon America. Iran's Ayatollahs, have stated "Death to the Great Satan", but they have not "Declared War".

Now, regarding Terrorist Acts, carried out by Iranian "Proxies", & "Agents",.... Absolutely, Iran has backed them, BUT,..... How can You forget the Terrorist Acts carried out by "Sunni Muslims", that are absolutely backed by Saudi Arabia?

If You weren't a "Choir Boy", for the Uniiparty in Washington,... Then maybe, just maybe, You'd ask how can the Republicans "climb in bed with the Sunnis", and the Democrats "climb in bed with the Shia", when both Sects declared that they will create a World Wide Caliphate, where the Unbeliever/Infidel will be put to death.

Take Your head outa that Dark, Moist, Stinky Cavity, and get some Fresh Air,.... Maybe You will also Desire The Truth.

Iran's current rulers attacked the US embassy in Tehran. The Iranian govt. that you referenced was no longer in existence.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Iran's current rulers attacked the US embassy in Tehran. The Iranian govt. that you referenced was no longer in existence.

Your Data, is jumbled from One Horizon to Another.

The Government that I 'referenced", was formed after the Embassy was seized.

 

[westwall]

Your Data, is jumbled from One Horizon to Another.

The Government that I 'referenced", was formed after the Embassy was seized.

Your data is false.

Are you simply ignorant, or are you lying?

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Your data is false.

Are you simply ignorant, or are you lying?

 

[westwall]

Ok, you're lying.

So much for being a "truth seeker"

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Ok, you're lying.

So much for being a "truth seeker"