This is definitely a lawless presidency

ttps://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/cohen-says-trump-attorney-jay-sekulow-told-him-to-give-false-info-to-congress-60000837596

Time to impeach when you have Trump using his own lawyers to instruct Cohen through emails to keep it all under wraps about Trump Tower Moscow. We are way past time that this thug and the rest of his mafia crew needs to be put on ice. Why should Cohen be the only one to fall in this criminal ring who was working for Trump? What a horrible situation we find ourselves with this mobster type president. Unbelievable!


^^^ Desperate is as desperate does ^^^
 
What is illegal about researching the feasibility of building a tower in Moscow?


Urban housing and development is President Trump's main line of business. That's how he earns his money. Researching the feasibility of new towers in Moscow- or Hanoi, Perth or Pyongyang is just another day at the office in this line of work.

I can't see why anyone would have a complaint
Because his urban housing was a failure, he went bankrupt, and had to borrow from foreign banks in exchange for favors.


President Trump didn't do too well with Atlantic City casinos or pro football.

And he borrows from foreign banks for interest payments not "favors". American banks usually aren't allowed to engage in higher risk investments like President Trump deals with.
Which is why he uses them for money laundering, bank fraud, and Insurance fraud, and they let him, because they know that he can help them out if he gets elected.


That's just bullshit. Institutions like Deutsche Bank are legitimate, legal outfits- not organized crime gangs.

BTW, we heard the same kind of crapola about Bain Capital in 2012 when the Media declared that Mitt Romney was "literally HItler".

When President Trump leaves office, all that bullshit about Deutsche Bank will evaporate.
Deutsche bank paid millions if not billions in fines for doing illegitimate bank practices. Google it sometime. It won't make your post look so stupid next time.
 
ttps://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/cohen-says-trump-attorney-jay-sekulow-told-him-to-give-false-info-to-congress-60000837596

Time to impeach when you have Trump using his own lawyers to instruct Cohen through emails to keep it all under wraps about Trump Tower Moscow. We are way past time that this thug and the rest of his mafia crew needs to be put on ice. Why should Cohen be the only one to fall in this criminal ring who was working for Trump? What a horrible situation we find ourselves with this mobster type president. Unbelievable!


^^^ Desperate is as desperate does ^^^
And desperate is for those who bring a basket of shit to a real debate. Why did you bring us a basket of shit?
 
And did not exonerate him. Meaning, the crimes would be determined by Congress...
Has no one yet explained to you that prosecutorial investigations only indirectly exonerate. They are to find evidence of criminality and the Muel Team clearly did not. Furthermore that whole "to be determined by congress" BS was just another lie your leftarded media - desperate to hang onto what few lemmings they have left - told you. Read this carefully: The Mueller Report is an internal DOJ document meaning all USAG Barr was required to show congress was his summary of its findings which, as already noted, were that "...this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..."

That is critical to this matter because much as you need to make an exception for Trump, we neither charge nor convict any American for crimes they did not commit.
900 prosecutors concur that Trump commited obstruction in their written opinions. Anyone with a functioning brain who read the report and with basic legal knowledge knows the same.

And "Socialist party?":auiqs.jpg: This coming from an obvious Republican who is too uniformed to realize, that the biggest payout to Socialism goes to Republicans.
Former prosecutors, not one of which was ever USAG and some if not all who had a political agenda to serve. Both Mueller and Barr found no crimes committed by the President.

BTW, there are tens of thousands of former prosecutors in the US.

And JFTR, I'm not a Repub and neither supported nor voted for Trump (but I will in 2020). Yeah, he will have no prob painting the Dem Party as socialist but I understand your nervous laughter ... somewhere deep inside you is a rational person who knows Democrat Socialism vs American prosperity will be the focus and the former will lose to the later … BIGLY. :D
And the summary of findings by Barr turned out to be a lie. That's what you do not get. Deception by the AG is not a recipe for Trump's misdeeds and exoneration. The taxpayers paid for the mueller report, and the should have been "conflict of interest Barr, who said Trump cannot obstruct," even before he was AG, tells us Trump is above the law. Anyone, even the one's with their heads screwed on backwards, can see that Barr not only is not legally fit, he lied to Congress. Barr needs to resign immediately on grounds that he shouldn't be any where near the Mueller report. You have to be totally retarded to think otherwise.

And by the way, Nadler quoted some of the Mueller report with Mueller's own words today, clearly indicating Trump obstructed justice, that a grammar school child could understand. You are so so, wrong about the Mueller report excusing Trump. Nadler: 'We will hold this president accountable — one way, or the other.'

And one more thing, I could give two shits how many prosecutors there are.


What is illegal about researching the feasibility of building a tower in Moscow?


Urban housing and development is President Trump's main line of business. That's how he earns his money. Researching the feasibility of new towers in Moscow- or Hanoi, Perth or Pyongyang is just another day at the office in this line of work.

I can't see why anyone would have a complaint
Because his urban housing was a failure, he went bankrupt, and had to borrow from foreign banks in exchange for favors.
LOL. You are remarkably clueless.
LOL...did you not get the memo? Robert Mueller investigated Donald Trump for two plus years with an ARMY of partisan Clinton supporters and came up with nothing to charge Trump with! So what do you think gives you the right to call for his impeachment? Because the Mueller Report didn't give you what you wanted? Go ahead...impeach Trump! It's going to blow up in your face when Barr starts investigating what the Democrats were doing before and after that election! Everything that you've accused Trump of with no proof...Hillary, the DNC and the Obama White House did in spades! You want hearings? I think you're going to get them but they won't be the ones you're hoping for!
Mueller from day one was never going to charge Trump because of the SC rules. He left that up to Congress. Why are Trump toads so ignorant?

It's not that Mueller was going to charge Trump, BWK...that's always been a moot point...his entire purpose was to determine whether there was evidence enough to recommend that Congress charge Trump through an impeachment process. What you are unwilling to admit is that Mueller didn't find that evidence...AFTER TWO YEARS OF INVESTIGATORS GOING OVER TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB!!! It's not there! I'm sorry but it's not. What you're left with is trying to make the case that Trump "obstructed" justice by vigorously denying the allegations that were repeatedly made against him. If THAT becomes obstruction of justice then our whole system of justice has become a JOKE!
Mueller did find the evidence. Just listen to Nadler quote Mueller from the report itself. You'd have to be IQ retarded not to understand what Nadler is quoting from Mueller to mean nothing more than obstruction. McGhan painted multiple incidents of obstruction by Trump in their back and forth; Nadler: 'We will hold this president accountable — one way, or the other.'

Evidence of what? Collusion? Didn't happen. Sorry, but it didn't.

Evidence of obstruction of justice? That would be something like Hillary destroying her servers so Congressional investigators couldn't see what she'd been doing or Bill secretly meeting with Loretta Lynch days before the FBI decides it won't charge Hillary with a crime that she quite obviously DID! So what did Trump do that even remotely approaches that? He defended himself against attacks from high ranking officials in the Obama Administration, the FBI and the CIA! That isn't obstruction. BUT THAT'S ALL YOU'VE GOT LEFT...ISN'T IT?
The case was laid out to you, and like a coward, instead of debating the testimony by Mueller, you switch to Clinton. You're a coward and a loser. Get lost. You have nothing to debate.
Neither you nor our hysterical House Dems nor our leftarded media nor any of the former prosecutors get to make the call and Barr deferred to the finding of the people who spent 2 yrs and $35 million to determine that "...this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..." (- The Mueller Report). I realize you want to play "What the definition of 'is' is" and have congress undo or redo that conclusion but we do not prosecute and we should not persecute any American just because you are angry and bitter.

That said, the House can and likely will impeach. So armed with what you are certain is irrefutable evidence of Trump's guilt, WTF are they waiting for? Can it be they don't share your certainty?:D
 
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Has no one yet explained to you that prosecutorial investigations only indirectly exonerate. They are to find evidence of criminality and the Muel Team clearly did not. Furthermore that whole "to be determined by congress" BS was just another lie your leftarded media - desperate to hang onto what few lemmings they have left - told you. Read this carefully: The Mueller Report is an internal DOJ document meaning all USAG Barr was required to show congress was his summary of its findings which, as already noted, were that "...this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..."

That is critical to this matter because much as you need to make an exception for Trump, we neither charge nor convict any American for crimes they did not commit.
Former prosecutors, not one of which was ever USAG and some if not all who had a political agenda to serve. Both Mueller and Barr found no crimes committed by the President.

BTW, there are tens of thousands of former prosecutors in the US.

And JFTR, I'm not a Repub and neither supported nor voted for Trump (but I will in 2020). Yeah, he will have no prob painting the Dem Party as socialist but I understand your nervous laughter ... somewhere deep inside you is a rational person who knows Democrat Socialism vs American prosperity will be the focus and the former will lose to the later … BIGLY. :D
And the summary of findings by Barr turned out to be a lie. That's what you do not get. Deception by the AG is not a recipe for Trump's misdeeds and exoneration. The taxpayers paid for the mueller report, and the should have been "conflict of interest Barr, who said Trump cannot obstruct," even before he was AG, tells us Trump is above the law. Anyone, even the one's with their heads screwed on backwards, can see that Barr not only is not legally fit, he lied to Congress. Barr needs to resign immediately on grounds that he shouldn't be any where near the Mueller report. You have to be totally retarded to think otherwise.

And by the way, Nadler quoted some of the Mueller report with Mueller's own words today, clearly indicating Trump obstructed justice, that a grammar school child could understand. You are so so, wrong about the Mueller report excusing Trump. Nadler: 'We will hold this president accountable — one way, or the other.'

And one more thing, I could give two shits how many prosecutors there are.


What is illegal about researching the feasibility of building a tower in Moscow?


Urban housing and development is President Trump's main line of business. That's how he earns his money. Researching the feasibility of new towers in Moscow- or Hanoi, Perth or Pyongyang is just another day at the office in this line of work.

I can't see why anyone would have a complaint
Because his urban housing was a failure, he went bankrupt, and had to borrow from foreign banks in exchange for favors.
LOL. You are remarkably clueless.
Mueller from day one was never going to charge Trump because of the SC rules. He left that up to Congress. Why are Trump toads so ignorant?

It's not that Mueller was going to charge Trump, BWK...that's always been a moot point...his entire purpose was to determine whether there was evidence enough to recommend that Congress charge Trump through an impeachment process. What you are unwilling to admit is that Mueller didn't find that evidence...AFTER TWO YEARS OF INVESTIGATORS GOING OVER TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB!!! It's not there! I'm sorry but it's not. What you're left with is trying to make the case that Trump "obstructed" justice by vigorously denying the allegations that were repeatedly made against him. If THAT becomes obstruction of justice then our whole system of justice has become a JOKE!
Mueller did find the evidence. Just listen to Nadler quote Mueller from the report itself. You'd have to be IQ retarded not to understand what Nadler is quoting from Mueller to mean nothing more than obstruction. McGhan painted multiple incidents of obstruction by Trump in their back and forth; Nadler: 'We will hold this president accountable — one way, or the other.'

Evidence of what? Collusion? Didn't happen. Sorry, but it didn't.

Evidence of obstruction of justice? That would be something like Hillary destroying her servers so Congressional investigators couldn't see what she'd been doing or Bill secretly meeting with Loretta Lynch days before the FBI decides it won't charge Hillary with a crime that she quite obviously DID! So what did Trump do that even remotely approaches that? He defended himself against attacks from high ranking officials in the Obama Administration, the FBI and the CIA! That isn't obstruction. BUT THAT'S ALL YOU'VE GOT LEFT...ISN'T IT?
The case was laid out to you, and like a coward, instead of debating the testimony by Mueller, you switch to Clinton. You're a coward and a loser. Get lost. You have nothing to debate.
Niether you nor our hysterical House Dems nor our leftarded media nor any of the former prosecutors get to make the call and Barr deferred to the finding of the people who spent 2 yrs and $35 million to determine that "...this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..." (- The Mueller Report). I realize you want to play "What the definition of 'is' is" and have congress undo or redo that conclusion but we do not prosecute and we should not persecute any American just because you are angry and bitter.

That said, the House can and likely will impeach. So armed with what you are certain is irrefutable evidence of Trump's guilt, WTF are they waiting for? Can it be they don't share your certainty?:D
Nadler: 'We will hold this president accountable — one way, or the other.' And Mueller's own quotes spit out in great detail an indisputable case for obstruction. No wonder 900 prosecutors concur with Mueller.
 
ttps://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/cohen-says-trump-attorney-jay-sekulow-told-him-to-give-false-info-to-congress-60000837596

Time to impeach when you have Trump using his own lawyers to instruct Cohen through emails to keep it all under wraps about Trump Tower Moscow. We are way past time that this thug and the rest of his mafia crew needs to be put on ice. Why should Cohen be the only one to fall in this criminal ring who was working for Trump? What a horrible situation we find ourselves with this mobster type president. Unbelievable!
And Republicans couldn't care less that Trump is a lawless president.
 
ttps://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/cohen-says-trump-attorney-jay-sekulow-told-him-to-give-false-info-to-congress-60000837596

Time to impeach when you have Trump using his own lawyers to instruct Cohen through emails to keep it all under wraps about Trump Tower Moscow. We are way past time that this thug and the rest of his mafia crew needs to be put on ice. Why should Cohen be the only one to fall in this criminal ring who was working for Trump? What a horrible situation we find ourselves with this mobster type president. Unbelievable!


^^^ Desperate is as desperate does ^^^
And desperate is for those who bring a basket of shit to a real debate. Why did you bring us a basket of shit?


^^^ Diagnosis: Terminal Projection ^^^

But keep up the pathetic work! That's how we'll get Trump 2020!
 
Evidence of what? Collusion? Didn't happen. Sorry, but it didn't...
The case was laid out to you, and like a coward, instead of debating the testimony by Mueller, you switch to Clinton. You're a coward and a loser. Get lost. You have nothing to debate.
And he borrows from foreign banks for interest payments not "favors". American banks usually aren't allowed to engage in higher risk investments like President Trump deals with.
Which is why he uses them for money laundering, bank fraud, and Insurance fraud, and they let him, because they know that he can help them out if he gets elected.
Adult discourse or "debate" as you call it requires facts and honesty or it breaks down into the childish BS you post. Have you any evidence that Trump uses foreign banks "for money laundering, bank fraud, and Insurance fraud" as you claim because he has done big biz for decades and has not only never been convicted of any of that, he's never even been charged.

Again, we do not prosecute and should not persecute any American for crimes that exist only in your angry, bitter, frustrated mind.
 
In the video they were shown and read off to the public. You can watch it or not watch it. I could care less either way. Republicans remaining stupid and ignorant is the best ammunition for Democrats. If you don't believe me, just ask the judge who had enough of Trumps illegal behavior and ordered his financial disclosures be handed over.
Trump is guilty of being a proven criminal. Cry me a river, and when is your next pity party for this piece- of -shit -in -chief?
Except Mueller stated exactly the opposite - that "...this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..." but the obvious question is: given your highly irrational and emotionally unstable condition, how will you cope with the Democrat Socialist Party's crushing 2020 defeat?

My suggestion? Stock up now on tissues and sedatives ... there will be shortages.:D
And did not exonerate him. Meaning, the crimes would be determined by Congress...
Has no one yet explained to you that prosecutorial investigations only indirectly exonerate. They are to find evidence of criminality and the Muel Team clearly did not. Furthermore that whole "to be determined by congress" BS was just another lie your leftarded media - desperate to hang onto what few lemmings they have left - told you. Read this carefully: The Mueller Report is an internal DOJ document meaning all USAG Barr was required to show congress was his summary of its findings which, as already noted, were that "...this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime..."

That is critical to this matter because much as you need to make an exception for Trump, we neither charge nor convict any American for crimes they did not commit.
900 prosecutors concur that Trump commited obstruction in their written opinions. Anyone with a functioning brain who read the report and with basic legal knowledge knows the same.

And "Socialist party?":auiqs.jpg: This coming from an obvious Republican who is too uniformed to realize, that the biggest payout to Socialism goes to Republicans.
Former prosecutors, not one of which was ever USAG and some if not all who had a political agenda to serve. Both Mueller and Barr found no crimes committed by the President.

BTW, there are tens of thousands of former prosecutors in the US.

And JFTR, I'm not a Repub and neither supported nor voted for Trump (but I will in 2020). Yeah, he will have no prob painting the Dem Party as socialist but I understand your nervous laughter ... somewhere deep inside you is a rational person who knows Democrat Socialism vs American prosperity will be the focus and the former will lose to the later … BIGLY. :D
And the summary of findings by Barr turned out to be a lie. That's what you do not get. Deception by the AG is not a recipe for Trump's misdeeds and exoneration. The taxpayers paid for the mueller report, and the should have been "conflict of interest Barr, who said Trump cannot obstruct," even before he was AG, tells us Trump is above the law. Anyone, even the one's with their heads screwed on backwards, can see that Barr not only is not legally fit, he lied to Congress. Barr needs to resign immediately on grounds that he shouldn't be any where near the Mueller report. You have to be totally retarded to think otherwise.

And by the way, Nadler quoted some of the Mueller report with Mueller's own words today, clearly indicating Trump obstructed justice, that a grammar school child could understand. You are so so, wrong about the Mueller report excusing Trump. Nadler: 'We will hold this president accountable — one way, or the other.'

And one more thing, I could give two shits how many prosecutors there are.


What is illegal about researching the feasibility of building a tower in Moscow?
Moscow is in Russia.
Russia is evil.
Nuff said.
 
Trump would have made that payment even if he were not running. He is rich and famous. So now you’re smarter than Alan Dershowitz? This is fantastic.
Dershowitz wasn't the one who got to decide to lock up Cohen for the same crime that Trump committed. You want to give us Dershowitz explanation about that?
What crime was that and when was Trump convicted or even charged?
He will be charged after he leaves office. Have you been living in a box all this time that you didn't know that?

Charged with what? He would have made those payments regardless of running or not as he was rich and famous.
Cohen admitted the payments were made to help Trump get elected. Trump helped Cohen by reimbursing Cohen, while Cohen took out a loan on his house, and then Trump and Jr. wrote out $35,000 dollar reimbursement checks to Cohen as a pay back, and Trump never reported the money. Trump violated federal campaign statutes, and did itv with Cohen. Why does Cohen have to go to jail and not Trump? Answer, he has to. SDNY already put in a court filing implicating Trump as the co-conspirator. He would be in jail now, but he is president.

How did the payments help him get elected? This should be rich. Yeah the non biased NY? LOL
 
I'm not waiting on anything. I'm already calling for hearings, then impeachment. Time to get rid of this worthless piece of shit.

On what grounds?
On grounds that he won the election.
Nope! An illegal election by a criminal has been exposed.

That one jumped the shark right there.
Anyone on the Right have something intelligent to debate? Lol!

When you have something more intelligent to offer than "illegal election", let us know.
 
So ... what are you waiting for?
I'm not waiting on anything. I'm already calling for hearings, then impeachment. Time to get rid of this worthless piece of shit.

On what grounds?
You've been given the list of lawless acts on multiple occasions. The bs stops here. No more explaining. We need hearings now to go over the mountain of criminality. It's time this piece of shit leaves.
That's ok dear. Only about six more years and another REP President for two terms and a REP Senate majority.
Any luck selling all those 'Hands Up Don't Shoot' hoodies?
The IG report is coming out soon.
Buckle up pal!
Already Comey and Lynch are accusing each other of lying.
Talking juvenile stupid talk won't change the law or reality with Trump. He has committed obstruction of justice to add to many other crimes that gave us an illegal election, and delivered a criminal onto the front door of the WH. That has already been established. And the stonewalling of witnesses and violating subpoenas
puts a nice bow on top of Trump's obvious impeachment credentials.

LOLOLOLOL. There's that "illegal election" again.
 
Dershowitz wasn't the one who got to decide to lock up Cohen for the same crime that Trump committed. You want to give us Dershowitz explanation about that?
What crime was that and when was Trump convicted or even charged?
He will be charged after he leaves office. Have you been living in a box all this time that you didn't know that?

Charged with what? He would have made those payments regardless of running or not as he was rich and famous.
Cohen admitted the payments were made to help Trump get elected. Trump helped Cohen by reimbursing Cohen, while Cohen took out a loan on his house, and then Trump and Jr. wrote out $35,000 dollar reimbursement checks to Cohen as a pay back, and Trump never reported the money. Trump violated federal campaign statutes, and did itv with Cohen. Why does Cohen have to go to jail and not Trump? Answer, he has to. SDNY already put in a court filing implicating Trump as the co-conspirator. He would be in jail now, but he is president.

How did the payments help him get elected? This should be rich. Yeah the non biased NY? LOL
Wow, stupidity is never in short supply with these cultists.
 
Evidence of what? Collusion? Didn't happen. Sorry, but it didn't...
The case was laid out to you, and like a coward, instead of debating the testimony by Mueller, you switch to Clinton. You're a coward and a loser. Get lost. You have nothing to debate.
And he borrows from foreign banks for interest payments not "favors". American banks usually aren't allowed to engage in higher risk investments like President Trump deals with.
Which is why he uses them for money laundering, bank fraud, and Insurance fraud, and they let him, because they know that he can help them out if he gets elected.
Adult discourse or "debate" as you call it requires facts and honesty or it breaks down into the childish BS you post. Have you any evidence that Trump uses foreign banks "for money laundering, bank fraud, and Insurance fraud" as you claim because he has done big biz for decades and has not only never been convicted of any of that, he's never even been charged.

Again, we do not prosecute and should not persecute any American for crimes that exist only in your angry, bitter, frustrated mind.
When you fight tooth and nail to hide your financial business for two and a half years, it's not because you were hiding your $50 dollar donations to the Boy scouts, and didn't report it. Trump does not, nor will he ever get the benefit of the doubt. He used illegal campaign finance money to hide his affairs before an election and did not report it.

Like the Right always said, how can you believe anything Cohen says, and like I always said, you can't believe anything Trump says? Are you telling me one persons lie has more value over the other?
 
On what grounds?
On grounds that he won the election.
Nope! An illegal election by a criminal has been exposed.

That one jumped the shark right there.
Anyone on the Right have something intelligent to debate? Lol!

When you have something more intelligent to offer than "illegal election", let us know.
I don't need to. You are not a requirement for something to be true. The evidence speaks for itself. I don't need your approval.
 
ttps://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/cohen-says-trump-attorney-jay-sekulow-told-him-to-give-false-info-to-congress-60000837596

Time to impeach when you have Trump using his own lawyers to instruct Cohen through emails to keep it all under wraps about Trump Tower Moscow. We are way past time that this thug and the rest of his mafia crew needs to be put on ice. Why should Cohen be the only one to fall in this criminal ring who was working for Trump? What a horrible situation we find ourselves with this mobster type president. Unbelievable!


^^^ Desperate is as desperate does ^^^
And desperate is for those who bring a basket of shit to a real debate. Why did you bring us a basket of shit?


^^^ Diagnosis: Terminal Projection ^^^

But keep up the pathetic work! That's how we'll get Trump 2020!
With his criminal rap sheet, I doubt it. But I do think demonic forces such as Trump cultism will have an effect. A sad reality, but true.
 
ttps://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/cohen-says-trump-attorney-jay-sekulow-told-him-to-give-false-info-to-congress-60000837596

Time to impeach when you have Trump using his own lawyers to instruct Cohen through emails to keep it all under wraps about Trump Tower Moscow. We are way past time that this thug and the rest of his mafia crew needs to be put on ice. Why should Cohen be the only one to fall in this criminal ring who was working for Trump? What a horrible situation we find ourselves with this mobster type president. Unbelievable!


^^^ Desperate is as desperate does ^^^
And desperate is for those who bring a basket of shit to a real debate. Why did you bring us a basket of shit?


^^^ Diagnosis: Terminal Projection ^^^

But keep up the pathetic work! That's how we'll get Trump 2020!
With his criminal rap sheet, I doubt it. But I do think demonic forces such as Trump cultism will have an effect. A sad reality, but true.


Oh Jeebus, get help.
 

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