This is a phony impeachment inquiry.

[Zorro!]

Does anybody else think Nunez looks like a fat Jon Oliver, or is it just me?

Just you.

The problem for Democrats is that there is no bipartisan credibility because there are no actual crimes, Democrats are pushing a remedy without establishing a clear need for one, other than their own political interests:

Brokaw, who covered the Watergate scandal as a White House correspondent in 1973, said Tuesday that Democrats don’t have “the goods” on Trump.

“The big difference is … they still don’t have what you call ‘the goods’ on this president in terms of breaking the law and being an impeachable target for them,” Brokaw said during an appearance on MSNBC.

“They’re going to start the process but they don’t have the same kind of clarity that the people who were opposed to Richard Nixon had because it was so clear that these were criminal acts that he was involved in,” he said.​

Clintongate impeachment might have been a political miscalculation, but it did involve an actual crime: perjury and obstruction of justice in court. No one, however, disputed that Bill Clinton had committed a crime in lying about that personal conduct under oath in a deposition for a sexual-harassment lawsuit brought by Paula Jones, not even Clinton himself, eventually.

In this case, House Democrats don’t even have a core statutory crime, nor are they likely to find one in Ukraine-Gate. That’s going to be a problem for Democrats even if poor Nancy Pelosi manages to pass her credibility-repair bill tomorrow. Without a core statutory crime, there’s no possibility for removal, which will leave voters wondering what all this is really about:

If Democrats had uncovered a truly serious crime in this probe, that would likely convince at least 20 Senate Republicans to make Mike Pence president. The core problem is that Ukraine-Gate doesn’t involve a statutory crime at all. The House can decide what constitutes an impeachable offense, but the Senate decides whether it’s even worthy of a full trial, let alone a removal.
​

An impeachment without a removal ends up looking a lot like a political stunt. Voters will ask themselves why Democrats spent all year obsessed with impeachment under varying rationalizations and then chose the one issue on which they could almost guarantee no success in removal.

 

[MeBelle]

If that's truly what you believe you're in for a very rude awakening soon.

What part of the impeachment process did I get wrong? Or, are you referring to my comment that said Trump supporters will parrot whatever Trump tells them to? Both are factually correct.

Probably the part where there is no evidence?

That's what the investigation is for stupid. You do the investigation, and then the House votes on what they think should happen. IF it passes the House, then it goes to the Senate where they hold a trial for impeachment. IF the Senate votes for impeachment by 2/3, then Trump is removed from office. Currently, they are investigating to see if he has done anything to be impeached for.

Ha! Ha! Man that’s funny! “Investigating to see if he has done anything to be impeached for” . Talk about desperation!

But wait.... didn't Trump ask Zelensky to investigate Biden to see if he had done anything to be indicted for??

And where is that against any law?




Read and learn




Text - Treaty Document 106-16 - Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters

 

[MeBelle]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

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There were lots of closed sessions before the public ones for Nixon.

Lie.

Prove it.

You can't cause it's a lie!!

lol!

 

[MeBelle]

Trump is going to be allowed due process after they finish the investigation to see if impeachment is warranted. You gotta stop confusing the investigation phase with the impeachment phase.

Here's how it works.................

1) The House does an investigation to see if things have been done that warrant impeachment. If not, the process stops. If they find something, then they vote.

2) The House votes to see if impeachment should proceed. If it doesn't pass, the process stops. If not, they pass it to the Senate.

3) The Senate has a trial for impeachment. If they vote 2/3rds majority to impeach, the president is removed. If not, he remains in office.

See? You guys are moving straight from investigation to saying he's innocent. Sorry, but you can't skip steps in this process.

Agreed that the process can't skip steps.


Then why did Pelosi skip the FIRST step?

The FIRST step IS...

pelosi is calling for a vote to continue the investigation.

Kind of close - Pelosi should have called a vote for an impeachment process BEFORE all this fake "investigation".

 

[BULLDOG]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

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There were lots of closed sessions before the public ones for Nixon.

Lie.

Prove it.

You can't cause it's a lie!!

lol!

Impeachment process against Richard Nixon - Wikipedia

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump is going to be allowed due process after they finish the investigation to see if impeachment is warranted. You gotta stop confusing the investigation phase with the impeachment phase.

Here's how it works.................

1) The House does an investigation to see if things have been done that warrant impeachment. If not, the process stops. If they find something, then they vote.

2) The House votes to see if impeachment should proceed. If it doesn't pass, the process stops. If not, they pass it to the Senate.

3) The Senate has a trial for impeachment. If they vote 2/3rds majority to impeach, the president is removed. If not, he remains in office.

See? You guys are moving straight from investigation to saying he's innocent. Sorry, but you can't skip steps in this process.

Agreed that the process can't skip steps.


Then why did Pelosi skip the FIRST step?

The FIRST step IS...

pelosi is calling for a vote to continue the investigation.

Kind of close - Pelosi should have called a vote for an impeachment process BEFORE all this fake "investigation".

Unless you have been living a cave, or you only listen to crazy right wing sources, you should know that a vote was not required for the investigation. In earlier impeachment investigations they had a vote so that they would receive authority for subpoenas. The last time Republicans were in the majority in the house, they gave standing authority for subpoenas to committee chairmen. You can thank Republicans for changing that rule, removing that obstacle. I guess fox forgot to mention that to you.

 

[Faun]

What part of the impeachment process did I get wrong? Or, are you referring to my comment that said Trump supporters will parrot whatever Trump tells them to? Both are factually correct.

Probably the part where there is no evidence?

That's what the investigation is for stupid. You do the investigation, and then the House votes on what they think should happen. IF it passes the House, then it goes to the Senate where they hold a trial for impeachment. IF the Senate votes for impeachment by 2/3, then Trump is removed from office. Currently, they are investigating to see if he has done anything to be impeached for.

Ha! Ha! Man that’s funny! “Investigating to see if he has done anything to be impeached for” . Talk about desperation!

But wait.... didn't Trump ask Zelensky to investigate Biden to see if he had done anything to be indicted for??

And where is that against any law?




Read and learn




Text - Treaty Document 106-16 - Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters

Great, so who was investigating Biden when Trump made his call to Zelensky?

 

[j-mac]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

There were lots of closed sessions before the public ones for Nixon.

There were also certain rights that the minority, and the President had that were fair, and the vast majority of hearings were in public, telivised....You know that....This process that the Democrat coup is following is NOTHING like either Nixon, nor Clinton, you know it.

 

[j-mac]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Se will be for Trump once the public hearings begin.

This won't make it to that...It is clear that the lynching that Democrats are attempting here is really nothing more than a silent coup....All involved in this should be arrested for sedition.

 

[j-mac]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Trump is going to be allowed due process after they finish the investigation to see if impeachment is warranted. You gotta stop confusing the investigation phase with the impeachment phase.

Here's how it works.................

1) The House does an investigation to see if things have been done that warrant impeachment. If not, the process stops. If they find something, then they vote.

2) The House votes to see if impeachment should proceed. If it doesn't pass, the process stops. If not, they pass it to the Senate.

3) The Senate has a trial for impeachment. If they vote 2/3rds majority to impeach, the president is removed. If not, he remains in office.

See? You guys are moving straight from investigation to saying he's innocent. Sorry, but you can't skip steps in this process.

The "process" is flawed from the start...The "investigation" is really nothing more than a Democrat clown show, secret hearings, where the minority has NO path to participate honestly, and a kangaroo court where nothing but damaging, so called evidence is accepted...It's a sham, and we the people see that.

 

[BULLDOG]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

There were lots of closed sessions before the public ones for Nixon.

There were also certain rights that the minority, and the President had that were fair, and the vast majority of hearings were in public, telivised....You know that....This process that the Democrat coup is following is NOTHING like either Nixon, nor Clinton, you know it.

Trump has been given more rights for this investigation than Nixon or Clinton got. Quit whining. He actually did do that illegal crap. It's not like he's being impeached over a blowjob. That would be pretty shitty

 

[Faun]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Se will be for Trump once the public hearings begin.

This won't make it to that...It is clear that the lynching that Democrats are attempting here is really nothing more than a silent coup....All involved in this should be arrested for sedition.

LOLOL

You must have missed it. Democrats voted yesterday to hold open hearings. It was Republicans who voted against that.

 

[Faun]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Trump is going to be allowed due process after they finish the investigation to see if impeachment is warranted. You gotta stop confusing the investigation phase with the impeachment phase.

Here's how it works.................

1) The House does an investigation to see if things have been done that warrant impeachment. If not, the process stops. If they find something, then they vote.

2) The House votes to see if impeachment should proceed. If it doesn't pass, the process stops. If not, they pass it to the Senate.

3) The Senate has a trial for impeachment. If they vote 2/3rds majority to impeach, the president is removed. If not, he remains in office.

See? You guys are moving straight from investigation to saying he's innocent. Sorry, but you can't skip steps in this process.

The "process" is flawed from the start...The "investigation" is really nothing more than a Democrat clown show, secret hearings, where the minority has NO path to participate honestly, and a kangaroo court where nothing but damaging, so called evidence is accepted...It's a sham, and we the people see that.

That's how all private Congressional hearings are conducted, even when led by Republicans.

 

[peach174]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Se will be for Trump once the public hearings begin.

This won't make it to that...It is clear that the lynching that Democrats are attempting here is really nothing more than a silent coup....All involved in this should be arrested for sedition.

LOLOL

You must have missed it. Democrats voted yesterday to hold open hearings. It was Republicans who voted against that.

Of which Schiff can cancel anyone of them he doesn't approve of.

 

[Faun]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Se will be for Trump once the public hearings begin.

This won't make it to that...It is clear that the lynching that Democrats are attempting here is really nothing more than a silent coup....All involved in this should be arrested for sedition.

LOLOL

You must have missed it. Democrats voted yesterday to hold open hearings. It was Republicans who voted against that.

Of which Schiff can cancel anyone of them he doesn't approve of.

Elections have consequences.

 

[the other mike]

 

[M14 Shooter]

Funny how the Democrats want to hold a vote on articles of impeachment while limiting the information Congress sees with regard to same.
How can a congressmen honestly and intelligently cast a vote for impeachment w/o all the available information?

 

[j-mac]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

There were lots of closed sessions before the public ones for Nixon.

There were also certain rights that the minority, and the President had that were fair, and the vast majority of hearings were in public, telivised....You know that....This process that the Democrat coup is following is NOTHING like either Nixon, nor Clinton, you know it.

Trump has been given more rights for this investigation than Nixon or Clinton got. Quit whining. He actually did do that illegal crap. It's not like he's being impeached over a blowjob. That would be pretty shitty

That's just not true...Period.

 

[j-mac]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Se will be for Trump once the public hearings begin.

This won't make it to that...It is clear that the lynching that Democrats are attempting here is really nothing more than a silent coup....All involved in this should be arrested for sedition.

LOLOL

You must have missed it. Democrats voted yesterday to hold open hearings. It was Republicans who voted against that.

Yes, to the perminant select committee....Only after the kangaroo secret court declares it's done with it's bs....Plus, the minority must have authorization from the majority to do everything from subpeona, to call witnesses...It's a rigged process, but we know that's the only way Democrats can do things.

 

[j-mac]

You know, it took over 2 years for Nixon to be investigated. So far, the investigation on Trump has only been a couple of months, so you guys need to wait for a bit.

If the investigation yields information that says Trump did something wrong, then they will hold a vote to impeach in the House. If they vote to impeach in the House, then it goes to the Senate, where the impeachment trial is held, and the Senate must vote 2/3 in favor of impeachment in order for Trump to be removed.

You Trumpsters are so busy parroting the things your dear leader says that you are not able to actually understand what is happening. You just think that if Trump says it, it must be true.

Even Nixon was allowed due process, plus the hearings were public. What are you Democrats afraid of?

Sent from my SM-T587P using Tapatalk

Trump is going to be allowed due process after they finish the investigation to see if impeachment is warranted. You gotta stop confusing the investigation phase with the impeachment phase.

Here's how it works.................

1) The House does an investigation to see if things have been done that warrant impeachment. If not, the process stops. If they find something, then they vote.

2) The House votes to see if impeachment should proceed. If it doesn't pass, the process stops. If not, they pass it to the Senate.

3) The Senate has a trial for impeachment. If they vote 2/3rds majority to impeach, the president is removed. If not, he remains in office.

See? You guys are moving straight from investigation to saying he's innocent. Sorry, but you can't skip steps in this process.

The "process" is flawed from the start...The "investigation" is really nothing more than a Democrat clown show, secret hearings, where the minority has NO path to participate honestly, and a kangaroo court where nothing but damaging, so called evidence is accepted...It's a sham, and we the people see that.

That's how all private Congressional hearings are conducted, even when led by Republicans.

No surprise that you're ok with that....We shall see how accepting you are when it's a Democrat in the barrel....