This global warming is killing us!!

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I understand that you don’t have the integrity to admit that you have claimed to be conversant in actual physics and matters requiring a good grasp on it.

You fool nobody.
I clearly know more than the Jim Bobs that post on this forum, but that's not saying much.
 
Those were democrats protecting their use of government programs to bribe their supporters inciting hate against Musk who is from South Africa. It didnt work

And before that they were throwing fat stacks of cash at him and praising anything the guy did.

Of course, I had long thought the guy to be a snake oil salesman myself. Just another grifter playing a long term Ponzi scheme. But that still does not excuse the childlike temper tantrums those children have been throwing for the last year or so. Probably the only good thing is that the children have incredibly short attention spans, so since then they have moved on to a half dozen other things to be outraged about since then.
 
Chicago ..... yesterday. Daunting levels of global warming seen very clearly in this video :deal:

74K views · 1K reactions | #chicago | Chicago Today

JC....it's time brother. Time to team up on that business we discussed years ago and start selling nut sack warmers to the public. Call it....

WARM BALLS INC.

Stupid cold here in NYC too...for six weeks now... unabated btw:abgg2q.jpg:

I need to start another of those historic threads in this forum. Remember it? Had like a billion views and many thousands of posts :popcorn:🍿:popcorn:
Skooks, I’m in my brother, 18 right now going down to 16 overnight. Warmers welcomed
 
Seems to be an awful lot of moisture in the atmosphere these days, don't you think?
 
OP doesn't understand the difference between weather and climate. Lol
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The Antarctic Sea Ice has grown straight through, but homO put up a FUDGE satellite in 2014.... hopefully the FBI and DOJ have noticed by now....


 
:itsok:

I understand that you don’t have the integrity to admit that you have claimed to be conversant in actual physics and matters requiring a good grasp on it.

You fool nobody.
You're on a message board of uneducated slobs trying to discuss a complicated topic at the forefront of modern science. That includes you and me.

Better lower your standards. ;)
 
What skills did I claim to have? Everything I've said is basic physics. It's not complicated. Calling out your obvious ignorance isn't the same as making some specific claim.

Then you should know that the difference between weather and climate is weather uses dt and climate uses ∆t ... otherwise everything else is exactly the same ... the big question is what do we set ∆t to? ... my claim is 100 years minimum ...

What are you using?

Do we have a location for this mythological "Climate Change"? ... or are we still pretending ... basic physics requires an example ... or you got nothing ... F=ma, so what mass are we discussing? ..
 
Then you should know that the difference between weather and climate is weather uses dt and climate uses ∆t ... otherwise everything else is exactly the same ... the big question is what do we set ∆t to? ... my claim is 100 years minimum ...

What are you using?

Do we have a location for this mythological "Climate Change"? ... or are we still pretending ... basic physics requires an example ... or you got nothing ... F=ma, so what mass are we discussing? ..
You’re mixing notation with substance. Weather vs climate is not “dt vs Δt.” That’s just calculus shorthand. Climate is defined statistically because that filters out short term variability. There’s nothing physically special about 100 years. It’s just a longer averaging window.

“Where is climate change?” isn’t a coherent question. Climate is the statistical behavior of the system. If the global mean temperature, ocean heat content, and ice mass trends shift over decades, that is climate change. It’s not a spot on a map.

And F = ma isn’t the governing equation here. Climate is an energy balance problem, not a mechanics problem. The relevant principle is conservation of energy: incoming solar minus outgoing infrared equals energy accumulation. The oceans, which hold the overwhelming majority of the system’s heat capacity, are gaining heat. That’s been directly measured.
 
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You’re mixing notation with substance. Weather vs climate is not “dt vs Δt.” That’s just calculus shorthand. Climate is defined statistically because that filters out short term variability. There’s nothing physically special about 100 years. It’s just a longer averaging window.

“Where is climate change?” isn’t a coherent question. Climate is the statistical behavior of the system. If the global mean temperature, ocean heat content, and ice mass trends shift over decades, that is climate change. It’s not a spot on a map.

And F = ma isn’t the governing equation here. Climate is an energy balance problem, not a mechanics problem. The relevant principle is conservation of energy: incoming solar minus outgoing infrared equals energy accumulation. The oceans, which hold the overwhelming majority of the system’s heat capacity, are gaining heat. That’s been directly measured.

I'm using mathematical notation as it is succinct ... it's still basic physics ... it's a shame you don't seem to understand what the notation means ... basic physics includes the difference between average and instantaneous ... we all know what average is, and that involves a time period ... I ask again ... what value do you give time period for your averages? ...

I'm asking for a demonstration ... you keep begging off like these nothing to demonstrate ... what about global mean temperature, ocean heat content, ice masses ... how does this change weather? ... or do you completely divorce the two subjects? ...

Of course Newton's 2nd Law applies ... basic physics ... it takes a one newton force to accelerate a one kilogram mass by one meter per second ... and we say this force perform one joule of work ... and that the object accelerated has gained a joule of kinetic energy ... or show me a different equation to use ...

If energy is moving ... there has to be a force ... no exceptions ...

... incoming solar minus outgoing infrared equals energy accumulation ...

Do you have a numerical value for this? ... you seem allergic to numbers ... and equations ... basic physics requires basic math ...
 
In the atmosphere. Well, it was. It's turned into precipitation now in the US.
well that's where moisture resides when not falling from the clouds, now where is it higher?
 
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Should I give the stamp answer here? You don't know what time of day the two were taken at!!!! Hilarious ain't it? Like 12 hours in a day is gonna raise that coastline some fifteen feet or something. Again, photo's never lie, and they show the lie!!! the great big democrat lie. exposure of their lies is always so great.

Thank you Frank!!!
 
I'm using mathematical notation as it is succinct ... it's still basic physics ... it's a shame you don't seem to understand what the notation means ... basic physics includes the difference between average and instantaneous ... we all know what average is, and that involves a time period ... I ask again ... what value do you give time period for your averages? ...

I'm asking for a demonstration ... you keep begging off like these nothing to demonstrate ... what about global mean temperature, ocean heat content, ice masses ... how does this change weather? ... or do you completely divorce the two subjects? ...

Of course Newton's 2nd Law applies ... basic physics ... it takes a one newton force to accelerate a one kilogram mass by one meter per second ... and we say this force perform one joule of work ... and that the object accelerated has gained a joule of kinetic energy ... or show me a different equation to use ...

If energy is moving ... there has to be a force ... no exceptions ...

... incoming solar minus outgoing infrared equals energy accumulation ...

Do you have a numerical value for this? ... you seem allergic to numbers ... and equations ... basic physics requires basic math ...
You want numbers? Good. Let’s use them.

Climate averages are typically defined over 30 years by the WMO. That’s long enough to smooth ENSO, volcanic noise, and short term variability. You can use 50 or 100 years; the warming trend still shows up.

Energy imbalance? Yes. Measured at roughly +0.5 to +1.0 W/m2 over recent decades. That’s satellite TOA radiation data plus ocean heat uptake. Multiply that by Earth’s surface area (5.1×10¹⁴ m²) and you get on the order of 10²² joules per year accumulating in the system. Over 90% of that is going into the oceans. That’s directly measured via Argo floats.

Newton’s 2nd Law: F = ma applies to mechanical acceleration of mass. Climate change is primarily governed by radiative transfer and thermodynamics. The relevant framework is: ΔE = Ein − Eout. If outgoing infrared is reduced by greenhouse gases, you get a positive energy imbalance. No mechanical push required; radiative flux differences are energy transfer. Photons carry momentum, yes, but the governing equations are from radiative physics, not rigid-body mechanics.

“If energy is moving, there must be a force” is not correct in the way you’re applying it. Heat flow is driven by temperature gradients. Radiative transfer is governed by the SB law and absorption spectra, not Newtonian acceleration of a bulk mass.

Weather is the instantaneous state. Climate is the statistical distribution of those states. When the distribution shifts, weather events shift accordingly.

You asked for equations and numbers. The numbers are measured. The equations are standard thermodynamics. The energy accumulation is observed. The only question left is whether you accept measurements that don’t fit your prior mode
 
When a persons life has no meaning they grasp ideologies like climate change and then claim they are saving humanity with no effort or actual investment. Im saving humanity I drive a tesla. What BS
The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-HL Mencken
 
The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-HL Mencken
Meanwhile, my position is that there is not an imminent catastrophe, that green energy isn't ready yet, and that we shouldn't try to force it with policies that would hurt our economy.

Does that sound like typical green tyranny to you?
 
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