This global warming is killing us!!

[knuckles]

It appears we may be entering an Ice Age.

 

[Anomalism]

You’d drown in a mirage.

Oh?

I didn't notice you participating in any actual conversation. Show me your depth. Lol

 

[BackAgain]

Oh?

I didn't notice you participating in any actual conversation. Show me your depth. Lol

I don’t care what you’ve seen. Or even recognized

You can’t ask anyone to show any depth when you’re mathematically a flat plane: zero depth.

Plus, of course, making note of your ongoing imbecility is to engage in the discussion.

You’ve said nothing of value. You’re not just an empty barrel poseur, but everyone sees that about you.

 

[Anomalism]

I don’t care what you’ve seen. Or even recognized

You can’t ask anyone to show any depth when you’re mathematically a flat plane: zero depth.

Plus, of course, making note of your ongoing imbecility is to engage in the discussion.

You’ve said nothing of value. You’re not just an empty barrel poseur, but everyone sees that about you.

 

[BackAgain]

Lol

My general reaction to your dull, pointless posting efforts. Exactly.

 

[EMH]

It appears we may be entering an Ice Age.

Even a Neanderthal can comprehend... what that is, an "ice age"

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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[Anomalism]

Lol

My general reaction to your dull, pointless posting efforts. Exactly.

It'd probably be more interesting to you if you actually understood physics.

 

[EMH]

It'd probably be more interesting to you if you actually understood physics.

He has exactly the same understanding of physics you do


He PARROTS.... and SO DO YOU

"the science" = PARROTING = always big government bullshit

 

[BackAgain]

It'd probably be more interesting to you if you actually understood physics.

Nothing would make you interesting.

 

[Hafar1014]

You’d drown in a mirage.

This is person who cant read a resarch paper doesnt know what an alpha value is or a correlation coeficient and regards science as dogma. It has to be true its science. Circular logic

 

[BackAgain]

This is person who cant read a resarch paper doesnt know what an alpha value is or a correlation coeficient and regards science as dogma. It has to be true its science. Circular logic

He has one thing right. I’m not a physicist.

Indeed, although I am a huge fan of genuine science, I cannot claim to be particularly skilled in physics.

But it seems to me (and apparently to you, too) that while he professes to have skills in physics, he clearly doesn’t.

 

[EMH]

He has one thing right. I’m not a physicist.

Indeed, although I am a huge fan of genuine science, I cannot claim to be particularly skilled in physics.

But it seems to me (and apparently to you, too) that while he professes to have skills in physics, he clearly doesn’t.

Very good analysis, counselor....

he ####ing sucks at Physics big time

 

[Anomalism]

He has one thing right. I’m not a physicist.

Indeed, although I am a huge fan of genuine science, I cannot claim to be particularly skilled in physics.

But it seems to me (and apparently to you, too) that while he professes to have skills in physics, he clearly doesn’t.

What skills did I claim to have? Everything I've said is basic physics. It's not complicated. Calling out your obvious ignorance isn't the same as making some specific claim.

 

[Anomalism]

Very good analysis, counselor....

he ####ing sucks at Physics big time

You've made claims that are physically impossible. You're not even operating in reality. Lol

 

[EMH]

You've made claims that are physically impossible.

????

specify...

 

[Anomalism]

????

specify...

You don't actually read my posts, but here.

The claim that the Laurentide Ice Sheet reached 2.5 miles in Chicago in 75k years violates basic physics. Ice sheet growth is limited by snow accumulation, temperature, and ice flow mechanics. Greenland’s ice, starting in the north, took hundreds of thousands to millions of years to reach its current thickness. Chicago is far south; even under full glacial conditions, ice flows slowly enough that a 2.5-mile thickness forming in 75k years is physically impossible.

Greenland and North America did not “thaw/freeze simultaneously” in ways that refute CO2 or Milankovitch cycles. Regional variability occurs because circulation redistributes heat unevenly. That doesn’t negate orbital forcing or greenhouse physics. It explains local deviations from global averages, which is precisely what the data shows. Using political actors or “McBullshit” theories as evidence doesn’t change the underlying geophysics. Ice cores, sediment layers, and mass balance measurements all confirm the timeline and rates of glaciation.

Your argument collapses under the simplest check. energy in vs energy out and ice physics set strict limits on how fast ice can grow. Nothing you’ve cited challenges that. Pretending it’s a political plot doesn’t rewrite thousands of years of ice sheet science.

You don't live in reality.

 

[knuckles]

Even a Neanderthal can comprehend... what that is, an "ice age"

Thread 'Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...'

Jun 23, 2023

What is an ICE AGE?

Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice retreats, as if "Day After Tomorrow" movie is accurate... LOL!!! What was North American Ice Age before 2010 is now spun into a series of rapid "ice ages" where it took a mere 75k years for the "ice age" to start in Northern Canada and put 2.5 mile thick glaicers on Chicago. This is "Milankovich"...

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Ah ha. So you agree.

 

[EMH]

You don't actually read my posts, but here.



You don't live in reality.

LMFAO!!!

That is my point and it completely refutes Milankovich...


and it is you who doesn't read properly...

Since 2010, Milankovitch has replaced "North American Ice Age" with the claim that the ice on Chicago recently that was 2.5 miles thick was only 75k years old.

Really....

My side, which is just me now, since all of the pre 2010 reports on North American Ice Age online have been "canceled" and replaced by McBullshit, is that North America was covered with Ice Age glacier down to Chicago and beyond for 30-50 million years.


So we have a dispute, a healthy thing for SCIENCE...

What is the EVIDENCE???


1. LIFE

Any evidence of LIFE on Chicago for the past 50 million years .... NO

Any evidence of LIFE on Greenland.... YES

Ancient Greenland Was Actually Green

Greenland was once carpeted in lush forests, a new study shows.

www.livescience.com

The DNA is proof that sometime between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, much of Greenland was especially green and covered in a boreal forest that was home to alder, spruce and pine trees, as well as insects such as butterflies and beetle

A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA - Nature

Analysis of two-million-year-old ancient environmental DNA from the Kap København Formation in North Greenland shows there was an open boreal forest with diverse plant and animal species, of which several taxa have not previously been detected at the site, representing an ecosystem that has no...

www.nature.com

So it is fair to say that the ice covering Greenland started up north in the past 2 million years, got to the middle of Greenland 400-800k years ago, and flushed out the Vikings in the 1400s on the southern tip, since when the Vikings found the Southern Tip of Greenland, they called it GREENland because it was green and were able to farm there for centuries before the Greenland ice age pushed them off...


Any evidence of life on Antarctica?

antarctic dinosaurs 70 million years ago - Google Search
This Cretaceous period dinosaur lived about 70 million years ago, towards the end of the Mesozoic Era. A bipedal, long-necked, plant-eating dinosaur (a sauropod) was discovered in the Antarctic interior by William R. Hammer and his team in late 2003.


For the record, prior to 2010 nobody disputed that Antarctic ice was at least 40 million years old. McBullshit disputes that completely...


2. Speed of ice age glacier

Indeed, the data from Greenland above is the best data we have, since it is recent and conclusive. It took Greenland's ice age somewhere between 500k years and 2 million years from its beginning at the northern part of Greenland to get to where it is now.


That is WAY SLOWER than McBullshit suggests.


3. size of the glacier

Greenland's ice is not yet 2 miles thick anywhere. Below the Arctic Circle, Greenland's ice is under 1 mile thick.

Hence the claim of 2.5 mile thick glacier on Chicago being 75k years old is, well, NOT SUPPORTED BY DATA POINT GREENLAND at all.

Antarctica has 2.5 mile thick glacier. There is a dispute over the age of those too. McBullshit claims it is not that old and that while sitting on the South Pole Antarctica has frozen and thawed over and over like Dennis Quaid claimed in the movie "Day After Tomorrow"

4. ice cores

antarctic ice cores years - Google Search
The oldest continuous ice core records to date extend 123,000 years in Greenland and 800,000 years in Antarctica. Ice cores contain information about past temperature, and about many other aspects of the environment


And hence it is fair to say that the 2.5 mile thick glacier on Antarctica is WAY OLDER than 75k years... to put it mildly.

Even the Greenland ice is way older than that too, and it has yet to get to 2 miles thick



5. tectonic plate movement

Reiny recently claimed Greenland is part of North America. Not on my map. But it is on the SAME TECTONIC PLATE moving on the same vector because of the angle of the fault in the North Atlantic

north atlantic ocean floor map - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

That fault has pushed Greenland NW and Europe SE for tens of millions of years, and hence explains why all of Europe's glaciers are melting while Greenland went into ice age. It was also pushing North America NW until NA got to its closest point to the pole, and then NA started moving SW on the SAME VECTOR on a SPHERE...

Accepting the 600 miles to the pole = your land entered an ice age

North America would have been in ice age for 30-50 million years, and would have been where Greenland is today 30-50 million years ago. The accepted date of that prior to 2010 was 50 million years...




Hence, the evidence that the glaciers on Chicago 2.5 miles thick were 75k years old is contrary to ALL DATA ON ICE AGES AND GLACIERS on the planet today.

The ice cores prove glaciers 2.5 miles thick TODAY are WAY OLDER than 75k years.

So is McBullshit wrong??


To me that is shockingly obvious. McBullshit is about fudging climate history after homO went silent

 

[EMH]

Ah ha. So you agree.

Another reading comprehension challenged person.

Antarctica and Greenland ARE ICE AGES. ICE AGES are CONTINENT SPECIFIC.

North America just exited an ice age in the past 3 million years, the glaciers that dug out the Great Lakes.

 

[BackAgain]

What skills did I claim to have? Everything I've said is basic physics. It's not complicated. Calling out your obvious ignorance isn't the same as making some specific claim.

I understand that you don’t have the integrity to admit that you have claimed to be conversant in actual physics and matters requiring a good grasp on it.

You fool nobody.